Meeting at the Town Cobbler (WW XCV game thread)

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

(Boro seeks entertainment, as do I. He does not have a role and will not be affecting the game. He's just here for entertainment value.)

Hey, we're all here for entertainment value.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

LIAR! You haven't warned them of the approaching storm. Many are calling it the storm of the millenium! Who calls it the storm of the millenium? I DID!

You, and the SPC, pretty much (yes, I am a certified Weather Geek).

[Nogrod]

The DL in less than forty minutes and this is all we have, even by way of entertainment?

Okay. Then we'll go with this - and whatever happens next.

One should have known about these geek-gatherings, everyone just sitting glued to their iWhatevers, Blackberries, tablets and laptops. No face-to-face communication whatsoever. Oops, my Android-phone tells me I have notifications from the 20+ forums I'm heatedly debating the wings of the Balrogs, the colour of Dr. Spock's socks, the possibility of a new theory about area 51 - and of course the latest news about the Arda Cup...

[Inziladun]

It really isn't good to be so close to DL and have really nothing on anyone.

Mac had an unfocused suspicion on Wilwa, but I really haven't seen anyone else suspecting.

Let's see, who are the current no-shows?

Lottie,
Shasta,

and Agan.

One of them? Or no vote toDay? Or do we trust to the odds in a small number of players like this that we hit a baddie?

x/d with Steve

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Hey, we're all here for entertainment value.

Well, that's definitely true.

On a serious note, however, I really don't think enough's been said toHour* for me to be able to make a decision about who to vote. At least so far, anyway.

There's only half an hour left of toHour!



*Yes, toHour is what I think it will make sense to use this game.


edit: x-ed with the Nog

[Nogrod]

Looking at the situation we're in I might second Inzil's and wilwa's proposal of not lynching anoyone at this Hour.

There's insanely little to say about anyone and looking at the general numbers it looks like a hit in the dark. I normally don't like the idea of a non-lynch as lynching is the only way we can kill the wolves, but this looks like ridiculously random.

What do you think?

If we vote, I might consider Greenie (surprise!) - not on exactly the same grounds that Rikae said, but a related one. But it is thin indeed - like any reasoning I can do right at the moment.

[Rikae]

Terrible, terrible Day (hour) 1. You should all be ashamed. Of course, I wasn't any help.

*is ashamed*

Nogrod, what is your reason for suspecting Greenie, however thin? Any discussion is better than none.

I'm not too sure about this idea of lynching no one. Gives the baddies a free... 2-hour period, I guess: a risk free kill for them. With these numbers, the chances that we'd lynch one are actually better than usual.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Looking at the situation we're in I might second Inzil's and wilwa's proposal of not lynching anoyone at this Hour.

There's insanely little to say about anyone and looking at the general numbers it looks like a hit in the dark. I normally don't like the idea of a non-lynch as lynching is the only way we can kill the wolves, but this looks like ridiculously random.

What do you think?

I don't really feel comfortable voting for someone (unless we go for someone who hasn't spoken yet, as Inzil suggested, but that seems unfair considering how little those who are here have said), since there's not really enough to go on to make any proper suspicion. On the other hand, the alternative means that we're giving the wolves- erm, Committee members- a free Hour, but on the other hand (Yes, a third hand, I know), there's a large chance of killing an innocent, which would be worse.

edit: x-ed with Rikae

[Nogrod]

The thing about Greenie I dislike / suspect is that she goes on explaining why a wolf wouldn't have done what wilwa did (dare to talk about how a seer might try to play) and that that is the reason she feels good about her.

Really, a wolf would exactly "dare" to do that. A wolf would love to point that out if none else had done it as the seer surely has thought of that. And I remember Greenie most often being on the camp which says "you elitists don't you think the gifteds can't think themselves!" when someone dares to suggest something to the gifteds - but now she thinks the seer might not have thought of the obvious?

So that I find a bit dubious.

[Nogrod]

Okay. It bothered me, why would Greenie behave that dubiously and I checked the rules for something that I thought might apply...

Originally Posted by teh rulez

the committee will not be able to discuss anything until the end of the first hour

So she was trying to signal a possible fellow-wolf? I mean if they don't know each others identities, then they should try to do something to not let a fellow-lynch to happen.

Which thought actuslly puts the idea of no lynch thisHour into a different light as well...

[Macalaure]

So if I understand this correctly, if the voting is tied, we don't lynch anyone, but every non-vote is cast randomly?

In that case trying to orchestrate a tie/non-lynch is impossible considering the number of people who will likely miss the vote.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

In that case trying to orchestrate a tie/non-lynch is impossible considering the number of people who will likely miss the vote.

unless we establish our intentions early enough... which I think we should do (not an exemplary Hour thisHour... ).

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

So if I understand this correctly, if the voting is tied, we don't lynch anyone, but every non-vote is cast randomly?

In that case trying to orchestrate a tie/non-lynch is impossible considering the number of people who will likely miss the vote.

Incorrect, sir. If someone misses two votes without reason, then their vote will be cast toward a random guest. And yes, in the event of a tie, no one dies.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

So if I understand this correctly, if the voting is tied, we don't lynch anyone, but every non-vote is cast randomly?

In that case trying to orchestrate a tie/non-lynch is impossible considering the number of people who will likely miss the vote.

Does that only go for the second consecutive non-vote? I don't remember.

x/d again with last three.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

So if I understand this correctly, if the voting is tied, we don't lynch anyone, but every non-vote is cast randomly?

In that case trying to orchestrate a tie/non-lynch is impossible considering the number of people who will likely miss the vote.

Good point. I forgot that, but non-voting will actually just take the lynch out of one's own hands and put oneself at risk.

[Nogrod]

Okay.

I'll go for a try.

++ Greenie

[Eönwë]

But Nog, the fact that they are not allowed to discuss would suggest that they do know the identities of the others. Though I quite like the sound of the idea of letting the committee attack each other, I doubt a Mod would allow such things.

[Eönwë]

I was referring to this, in case it's not clear.

And I'm tired and my mind still feels jumbled so I'm going to retire to my room for the next half an Hour.

edit: x-ed with Mac, who's right of course.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Completely surprised that this started already. I'm too used to startup days that are longer than usual... anyway, I'm hanging about now.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

There's insanely little to say about anyone and looking at the general numbers it looks like a hit in the dark. I normally don't like the idea of a non-lynch as lynching is the only way we can kill the wolves, but this looks like ridiculously random.

I hate these kinds of dilemmas too.

Not voting squanders our chance of getting a committee member, so it isn't my desire. However, we certainly have even less this Day 1 to consider than usual.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

If we vote, I might consider Greenie (surprise!) - not on exactly the same grounds that Rikae said, but a related one. But it is thin indeed - like any reasoning I can do right at the moment.

I don't know. That's the problem. I might could go for one of the submarines out of desperation.

x/d with last three

[satansaloser2005]

Check-ins begin in approximately ten minutes.

[satansaloser2005]

Please feel free to take your bags up to your rooms. The young man at the desk will have your keys. If you need any help, don't hesitate to ask.

(Deadline.)



Sorry, all. It's a bit mad around here, so I'll fill in the actual story line later.

Wilwa has left the Cobbler. She was part of the committee.

[Macalaure]

With this kind of silence today (and I don't mean just volume, since I only posted once as well, but actual points/suspicions), we made it easy for the wolves. The lynch will be virtually random, no matter how much we might try to come up with something sensical now.

Shasta, Lottie, and Aganzir have not shown themselves yet at all.
Rikae, Greenie: just one post, with nothing to go on.
Inzil keeps the conversation going. As a wolf he could conveniently slip into the background, or at least take himself back. Feeling good about him right now.
Nog: I can't find a reason to suspect him, which makes me suspicious.
Wilwa - re-reading her posts, I think the vibe I'm getting is that of someone who's a wolf and tries rather hard to find something to talk about, so that she won't be suspected for not contributing. (Not exactly the best reason, is it?)
Steve posts a bit, but doesn't really say much. I'm a bit wary there.
McCaber looks alright, like Inzil with less of a post count.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

I don't really feel comfortable voting for someone (unless we go for someone who hasn't spoken yet, as Inzil suggested, but that seems unfair considering how little those who are here have said), since there's not really enough to go on to make any proper suspicion. On the other hand, the alternative means that we're giving the wolves- erm, Committee members- a free Hour, but on the other hand (Yes, a third hand, I know), there's a large chance of killing an innocent, which would be worse.

It does seem a bit unsporting to get someone who hasn't posted. I just don't really know who else to vote for though.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

The thing about Greenie I dislike / suspect is that she goes on explaining why a wolf wouldn't have done what wilwa did (dare to talk about how a seer might try to play) and that that is the reason she feels good about her.

Really, a wolf would exactly "dare" to do that. A wolf would love to point that out if none else had done it as the seer surely has thought of that. And I remember Greenie most often being on the camp which says "you elitists don't you think the gifteds can't think themselves!" when someone dares to suggest something to the gifteds - but now she thinks the seer might not have thought of the obvious?

So that I find a bit dubious.

x/d with Mac and Nog

I guess I see what you're saying. It's a bit thin, but that's hardly surprising this time.

I see Mac has elaborated on his Wilwa bad vibe, which he readily admits is pretty thin.

Crud.

[McCaber]

Well, we've got half an hour to go and I still have no credible thoughts one way or another.

Inzil I'm getting honest vibes from, but that could just be from the first few posts when it was just us.

No one else has really posted anything of substance, but from the folks with one or less I have to say Greenie's the one I like least so far.

EDIT: crossed with a few