TIG XCIII - Betrayal at Henneth Annûn (Game thread)

[Pomegranate]

I'm having a somewhat busy day today, and besides that I am baffled. I feel that with Bom being BN I lost the base from all my suspects so far, more or less. Rune gave Bom the final vote and has been wanting him lynched for quite a while, sally's dead, Bom gave Agan a vote he could've seen as final, Inzil voted for Bom as well, though I guess he couldn't have foreseen the rush of votes Bom would get on the final minute. I'll have to look around, but I'm afraid I don't have the time yet. Will try my best later.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Pomegranate

I'm having a somewhat busy day today, and besides that I am baffled. I feel that with Bom being BN I lost the base from all my suspects so far, more or less. Rune gave Bom the final vote and has been wanting him lynched for quite a while, sally's dead, Bom gave Agan a vote he could've seen as final, Inzil voted for Bom as well, though I guess he couldn't have foreseen the rush of votes Bom would get on the final minute. I'll have to look around, but I'm afraid I don't have the time yet. Will try my best later.

Apart for the stuff you say about me, this sums up my thoughts about the votes.

As deadline approached, I found my self questioning the innocence of Aganzir and Inziladun. However the know that we now the role of BomT, they don't look so bad.

Of course it could be that BomT voted Aganzir, because she seemed near doomed and it would make him look good. And as Pommy says, it could be a miscalculation on the part of Inzil. That is unlikely however, since it was clear that Sally wanted to get rid of BomT and I too had been critical of him.

Moving on...

I never quite understood Aganzir's vote for Boromir. She plays along with his antics, states that he acts like this all the time and so on. . . I probably need to read through her posts, but right now it seems to me her reaction has been rather odd.

[Boromir88]

So, Lottie, my first post of the Day you're saying it's completely unproductive? That fact that everyone now knows I trust Rune more than anyone else today is completely counter-productive? And that I was possibly in the wrong to vote for Agan yesterday? Again, totally unproductive and you can't possibly read anything out of it?

If you wanted to see the pinnacle of unproductivity from me, I thought you would have remembered my late useless post on the theory of Balrogs and Wings several villages ago.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

If you wanted to see the pinnacle of unproductivity from me, I thought you would have remembered my late useless post on the theory of Balrogs and Wings several villages ago.

Sweet broccoli Odin, please don't go there.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

So, Lottie, my first post of the Day you're saying it's completely unproductive? That fact that everyone now knows I trust Rune more than anyone else today is completely counter-productive? And that I was possibly in the wrong to vote for Agan yesterday? Again, totally unproductive and you can't possibly read anything out of it?

If you wanted to see the pinnacle of unproductivity from me, I thought you would have remembered my late useless post on the theory of Balrogs and Wings several villages ago.

Not that part. The part where you talk about Rune was good. But that was, what, one line? Maybe two? The majority of your post was not about Rune, and that was the part that I found unnerving.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Inzil

So I guess the question would be, "why Sally?", though it seems obvious due to Bom being evil. I was wondering why they went for her and not me or Rune, but I guess the fact that she basically started the ball rolling on Bom did it.

Also, I think, her voting behaviour from Day 1, ie. debating whether to vote Gal or Bom and ending up voting the latter.

Originally Posted by Inzil

Casts some minor suspicion on Shasta, no reason given, and G55.

I don't think it really matters at this point, but the way I read it, he suspected Shasta and defended Gal.

Originally Posted by Rune

I never quite understood Aganzir's vote for Boromir. She plays along with his antics, states that he acts like this all the time and so on. . .

That is actually a good point; and when phrased like that it does look fishy. But like you, I think I'd need to do some rereading in order to decide anything.

[A Little Green]

In response to Agan's response to my points against her:

You conveniently failed to note the post where I stated my main reasons for thinking about voting for her

Ah. My post in question was a summary of the development of the Galwagon, not a full account of everything everyone said with regards to Gal; I only mentioned it when somebody brought up new points, or somebody new joined in the fray, etc. Perhaps I should have stated it clearer. Also, when I called your reason for voting Gal fishy or suspicious or strange or whatever it was, I was talking about that one particular point I had quoted, not the whole (the other arguments therein being ones others had stated too and that looked a little more valid.)

Agan hesitated because she was, especially as the deadline drew nearer, worried she had accidentally poked a gifted. If you don't see why, go read her last posts again. But there's no way to tell who's a real gifted and who's just giving vague hints in order to be saved, and as Gal didn't reveal, I thought she'd be safe to lynch. There's hesitation for you. Convenient, eh?

I still think it could be, as you know you'd say that same thing whether BN or innocent.

I don't like in the least the way Greenie seems to be twisting things. I don't know how obvious my doubts about Gal were or if it even occurred to anybody else, but it seems to me Greenie is intentionally ignoring it.

Yes, it occurred to me that Gal might be Gifted. It also occurred to me that it might have occurred to you. Look, I was not and certainly am not saying for a fact that you are a wolf. I was saying that your actions concerning the Gal lynch would well fit a wolf. There's a difference.

Originally Posted by Agan

Would you be content if I had pursued a strong and misguided suspicion without a backward glance on day 1? Would that make me seem more innocent? I was hesitant because I was by no means convinced of her guilt. She was my best bet so far, but I voted her in order to eliminate someone I'd continue to be suspicious of in the future, rather than to lynch someone I was sure was a wolf.

Hesitation in itself is not fishy. The way you did it was. It might have been genuine for all I know, but it seemed too pronounced, too underlined, to be so. That, and you being one of the orchestrators of the original suspicion of Gal, makes for a fishy combination.

[Pomegranate]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

That is actually a good point; and when phrased like that it does look fishy. But like you, I think I'd need to do some rereading in order to decide anything.

I think it's definitely a point, but I can't see it as too fishy. It didn't seem like Agan was trying to get anyone else to vote for Boro, how I read it is that she's so concentrated on their "dance" (and yes, your rhetoric does make that annoying to read, Boro and Agan) that she didn't have the concentration to go through anyone else. Which I understand, even though I don't see it as highly contributing. However, this message of Greenie's is starting to worry me. Feels like you have something especially against Agan (alliteration, even if not a pronounced but only a written one - the linguist in me jumps with joy ^^). We can't of course be sure about her, but Bom's vote for her would definitely seem to give to her some innocence points. After two days of discussing mainly her I feel like we should somewhat move on, broaden our vision, and I'll be definitely looking at you, dear Greenie, with some concentration.

edit. x/ed with Greenie's second one