Admin thread for TIG XCIII - Betrayal at Henneth Annûn

[Galadriel55]

YAY!!!





I guess that means I'm in as well.

[Pitchwife]

Yesss! *punches the air*

Welcome on board, Esty, and thanks for the honour to have you playing! Your day off should be no problem, as you've given fair warning (and if you're lucky, it'll fall into a Night phase, but if so I advise against commenting on the fact at any length in the game; G55 can tell a story of that). And I still hope the game will take off and end before the 21st so you won't have to withdraw; or in the worst case, maybe the other side will see fit to arrange an honorable demise for you.

Great to have you too, Nog, and thanks for the news about Lommy, Greenie; I've put her down with a question mark for now.

Zil, I've removed you from the players list for now, as I don't see the game starting in time for you. If your schedule eases unexpectedly, I'll gladly put you in again, but if not, it can't be helped. I'd have loved to have you playing, but it's OK, we all know RL can be a jealous goddess at times. Same to you, Eönwë.

G55, I've removed your question mark; I trust you're responsible enough to judge whether you can play or not.

Looking at the list now, we're still at least two players short, even if all remaining question marks can play. I'll try to think of a few more people to ask, and maybe I can bother you, sally, to twist an arm or two for me; I've heard you're quite good at it.

If we start with a village of 12 (which seems to be the best we can hope for), I'd like to hear some opinions on what I should do with Mablung and Damrod. I like the roles as they are now, but maybe four gifteds would be a little too much in such a small village. What do you think?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

I'll try to think of a few more people to ask, and maybe I can bother you, sally, to twist an arm or two for me; I've heard you're quite good at it.

I live to harass, my lord.

[Glirdan]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I live to harass, my lord.

And it didn't take much twisting for me to come check it out. Yes, I'm back. I've been unavailable due to a recent move and settling in and stuff. Also, lack of a desktop computer and Internet has been a major factor. BUT, I've decided to try and give using my data on my phone a shot, sooo....count me in

[A Little Green]

Esty!!!! I'm impressed!

Timetable-wise - if we start this week then whichever phase Saturday is I'm going to miss it completely. Otherwise my participation should be above average, as my studies don't continue until two weeks from now! Incidentally, Pitch, any idea when we're starting?

[Pitchwife]

Yay Glirdy! Welcome! I suppose it's too much to hope for a wilwa as well?

Thanks for the input on M&D.

Originally Posted by G55

But if you combine M+D into one role the whole lover thing loses the point.

My thought exactly, which is why I think I'll keep them both (I just love the idea of changing a role in mid-game, because, as Jimi Hendrix said, only cowboys stay in tune all through a song).

Originally Posted by Boro

So, say Mablung dies. Then with Damrod, either have it be a semi-lover (?) type of role? Damrod would get a revenge kill OR Damrod is removed by suicide/desertion/whatever. Not both. In small villages I try to keep the 1 to 1 death ratio as much as possible, and having both revenge kill/Damrod or Mablung die is overkill.

This is a very good point - in the worst case we'd actually lose three innocents at once (Mablung + Damrod + Damrod's pick), which, depending on when it happens, could very well mean instant win for the wolves; this is way too hard on the village, and I must admit I hadn't thought this out thoroughly.
The idea behind it was that the side which kills Mablung/Damrod takes the risk of the Hunter kill, and I'd actually like to keep that aspect. So what do you think of this:

• Mablung is wolf-killed -> Damrod becomes a semi-logical Hunter (kills pick only if a wolf);
• Mablung is lynched -> Damrod becomes an illogical Hunter (kills pick whatever their role).

This would remove the instant carnage of the revenge kill and still give the wolves a chance of a Hunter-kill backfiring against the village. Sound good?

Originally Posted by Greenie

Timetable-wise - if we start this week then whichever phase Saturday is I'm going to miss it completely. Otherwise my participation should be above average, as my studies don't continue until two weeks from now! Incidentally, Pitch, any idea when we're starting?

At the moment I'm inclined to start as soon as we have 12 players, and we still need at least one more. If one or two more people sign up before the weekend, I'd say let's go rather than risk having people dropping out. So if we start this week and you have to miss Saturday I'm now forewarned and will withhold my modly frown.

[Kitanna]

I don't think I'm going to be able to play this time around. I'm looking at a couple more busy weeks at work.

[Nerwen]

Much as I'd like to play, Pitch, it's not looking like I'm going to be able to this time.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

...and if you're lucky, it'll fall into a Night phase, but if so I advise against commenting on the fact at any length in the game; G55 can tell a story of that).

Indeed.

Originally Posted by Pitch

G55, I've removed your question mark; I trust you're responsible enough to judge whether you can play or not.

I should be able to play like in the last game: I'll post as much as I can, though DL is not the most convenient thing once again. I don't like playing when I have to read through 3-5 pages in the last half-hour of the game to decide who to vote for, but I'll manage.

Originally Posted by Pitch

If we start with a village of 12 (which seems to be the best we can hope for), I'd like to hear some opinions on what I should do with Mablung and Damrod. I like the roles as they are now, but maybe four gifteds would be a little too much in such a small village. What do you think?

It would be 3 wolves, 4 gifteds and 5 ordos. But Mablung+Damrod don't have any powers until one dies. They just know one extra innocent.

But if you combine M+D into one role the whole lover thing loses the point. Would it just be a semi-logical hunter?

And their roles are so cool, if someone has to go, maybe Anborn?

[Boromir88]

About M + D, if it stays at a smaller number like 12-13. I think keeping the semi-logical hunter part works fine. However, if one dies, then the revenge kill might be overboard, especially if the other will then be removed.

So, say Mablung dies. Then with Damrod, either have it be a semi-lover (?) type of role? Damrod would get a revenge kill OR Damrod is removed by suicide/desertion/whatever. Not both. In small villages I try to keep the 1 to 1 death ratio as much as possible, and having both revenge kill/Damrod or Mablung die is overkill. Unless there can be 15-16+ players.

I'll ask around to some long time WW players, but I think many are still busy this time of year.