Game Thread: TIG XCII - Disaster by the Lake

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

And sometimes good reasons to keep said speculations to themselves for the time being.

...unless they have been voiced over already... the wolves tend to read the thread at Night.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

...unless they have been voiced over already... the wolves tend to read the thread at Night.

And I suppose they can also read the thread before it gets written?
Seriously, vote and go to bed.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

And I suppose they can also read the thread before it gets written?

We'll discuss this after the game...

[Boromir88]

Dead Line.

No More posting please. Once I double check votes, the role will be revealed quickly.

[Boromir88]

"Nogrod's reaching." Greenie said above all the bickering and shouting. The villagers quieted knowing time was running out and they needed to decide on who to send to the gallows. They were determined to keep their heads. Reason and rationality will find the wolves amongst them. Or so the innocents hoped.

"Preposterous!" boomed Nogrod.

"Your arm has grown long indeed." observed Lottie.

"Let's stop with the metaphorical suspicions and get something more concrete." said Shasta. "I vote Inzil."

Inzil gave a sarcastic sigh. "Now there's a shocker. Concrete evidence. Obviously the furrier has to be the most furry. That's not at all metaphorical."

"Glad you agree." added Pitch. "That settles it then."

The villagers bound Inzil and led him up to the swinging gibbet. And there he hung lifeless. But Inzil grew no fangs or claws. He sprouted no new fur either.

"Well. Unless Inzil shaved to make those furry boots of his, I'd say he's not a wolf." chimed sally.

"Where have you been all day!" grumbled many of the Dale residents.

LIVING

Aganzir...Baker's wife.
Bom...Cobbler.
Galadriel55...Cook.
Greenie...Undertaker.
Kath...Baker.
Kitanna...Cooper.
Loslote...Candlestick Maker.
Nogrod...Wine-maker from Dorwiniondil.
Nerwen...Town crier.
Pitchwife...Shepherd.
Sally...most prestigious Musician and Poet of Lake-town.
Shasta...Notable miscreant.

DEAD

Boro...King's Secretary - Night 1
Inziladun...Furrier (Ordo) - Day 1

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Wolves chatter and decide your kill.

Bard Hunt. Seer and Ranger send out your birdies.

Edit: No apology necessary Agan, I find that ironically amusing.

[Boromir88]

The wolves debated into the night and once they agreed on who would meet their end tonight, they set out while the village remained asleep.

"Do you feel that?" one asked.

"I do." concurred another. "And I don't like it much." What it was the wolves did not know, but it felt as if there were a great and powerful will coming down from the skies above. "Let's steer clear, whatever it is."

The wolves proceeded on to house of their chosen victim.

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Morning had come, but it wasn't the rooster crows which awoke the town. They heard a pained wailing coming from the Baker's hovel.

Normally, the town could smell the delicious, fresh-baked rolls and pastries each day. But this morning, there was no smell of freshly made breads. Only a piercing cry. And out ran Agan, her gown was soaked red. The blood of the Baker.

LIVING

Aganzir...Baker's wife.
Bom...Cobbler.
Galadriel55...Cook.
Greenie...Undertaker.
Kitanna...Cooper.
Loslote...Candlestick Maker.
Nogrod...Wine-maker from Dorwiniondil.
Nerwen...Town crier.
Pitchwife...Shepherd.
Sally...most prestigious Musician and Poet of Lake-town.
Shasta...Notable miscreant.

DEAD

Boro...King's Secretary - Night 1
Inziladun...Furrier (Ordo) - Day 1
Kath...Baker (Ordo) - Night 2.

It's day 2. Kath the ordo is wolf-fodder.

[Kitanna]

Kath? She only had two posts.
Post # 33, Pressed for time, rereading
Post # 35

G55, Kitanna and Bom should be the three wolves. One wolf says 'well we could start with silly list posts' but unfortunately they all three did it!

Bom? It's Day 1. Pretend to be the cobbler if you want. As long as you're an innocent not a Gifted then if you end up dying it's protecting Gifteds. Shame for the village if silly behaviour ends up with us lynching an innocent over a wolf though.

G55 votes Nerwen. Well, clearly a random vote. Guess we'll have to hope we see more of her toMorrow.

Inzil's a bit aggressive. 'And you know this how?' to Nerwen, and something previously toward Bom I think.

Agan - kind of agree with her comment on G55 saying only around Nights. Was an odd thing to point out really. Could have just said 'oh no it turns out I'm not really around on the days that are Days', mentioning Nights at all is unnecessary. Could be a hint. But, G55 isn't going to be back toDay, so pass for now.

Lottie and Bom are both using kthxbai. Cobbler to wolf? Wolf to wolf? Totally random?

Nerwen also a bit aggressive, particularly towards Lottie.

Ooh Nog's catch on Inzil is interesting! If Inzil turns out to be a wolf there could be some good leads in there.

Pitch looks good. Or at least, lots of interesting comments. And made me read Agan's post: we are not in the same wolfpack ... suggesting that one of the two is in a wolf pack?

So,

++INZIL
Somewhat aggressive. Still considering Nerwen's 'back-stabbing' comment deeply suspicious despite pretty much everyone else considering it to be a reply to G55 voting for her the post before. If he forgot about G55 voting for her, then he only read half of the post he quoted by Shasta - in which Shasta mentions G55 voting for Nerwen ... this quote coming immediately after another mention of Nerwen's comment being suspicious.

That's it from me toDay.

So...she pretty much had something to say about everyone. Her top suspect was for the ill-fated Inzil though and she voted for him. Aside from seeing Inzil as aggressive she didn't make much of a case for anyone. That could well be why she was killed. I think the only person she didn't mention was Sally.

I wanted to take a closer look at Lottie, Nog, and Greenie today. There was quite a bit of back and forth around DL. Nog and Lottie appeared to dominate it, but Agan chimed in and Greenie made some points about Nog and his suspicions.

Lottie:
# 10: She threw out some theories about Bom. I didn't take it seriously at the time because it was ended in a joking matter. Having the chance to think it over, maybe the first part was a serious theory put forward. The second part was certainly a joke at the expense of Bom's avatar.
# 19: This is the "never mind then" post Nog and Greenie argued over.

I don't think I've played with him enough yet - I didn't realize this was standard Bom. Never mind, then.

She responds to Greenie saying this is normal Bom. Nog believes this isn't normal innocent behavior, but I've seen innocents and wolves pull this move. A simple misunderstanding can cause someone to backtrack. The never mind is the oddest part of her statement. It seems unnecessary to put that in, but it also seems like a convenient slip to jump on.
She also states she's done the same thing G55 did (random vote) as a guilty and an innocent, excuses G55 for the moment.
# 34: Responds to Nerwen's "how could you not know this is what Bom plays like, he always does this!" with "I haven't played in months!"

I didn't think it worthwhile to continue looking at it as somewhat suspicious.

I don't think Lottie she have backtracked so drastically. She hasn't played with Bom much and if this behavior is suspicious, then keep a watch on it.
# 37: Comment on G55's vote
# 39: States she's leaving she for awhile.
# 61: Argues with Nog about her backing off of her Bom theories. I read this as pretty sarcastic and angry.
# 65: Lottie just isn't happy here
Mostly she doesn't like the earlier cases against Inzil or Nog's suspicion of her, but isn't convinced enough to vote either.
# 68:

Usually I don't think of gifteds as trying to attract attention, and that's what I thought Bom was doing.

# 73: Continues to defend herself against Nog.
# 75: Responds to Agan about why a wolf would draw suspicion.
# 82: Votes Nog. Can't say I'm surprised. Admits some of this vote is personal bias at this point.

Looking at Lottie she certainly got worked up after Nog pointed out the "never mind, then". I think she slipped in her speech, whether sinister or not, I'm not sure yet. She backed off of her Bom theory when confronted that this is his regular style. But she did make valid points as to why she could believe him to be a wolf parading as a cobbler. Mostly she was agitated by Nog.

Nog is next...

[Aganzir]

Btw Nog we're pathetic. Guess which two very busy people top the post count?

edit: Apologies, Uncle Boro!

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Btw Nog we're pathetic. Guess which two very busy people top the post count?

Right... or should one consider it the other way around: if two busy people are the most active what does it tell about the others?

Anyway. ToDay I'm not able to hang around to the deadline as I have an early morning call tomorrow - and I have limited time in the evening as well. Sorry about that.



As I se this popping up once again, let me try to be clear with it:

Originally Posted by me

If Galadriel were a gifted she wouldn't have then slipped that "I can actually participate a bit more are Nights" -thing. That would be far too reckless. But could she slip it as a wolf? Or is it just an ordo talking things that are not necessarily to the point regarding the game (as ordos have nothing to do by Night)?

So I am reaching, opportunistic "straw-grasper" etc.?

That was post #20 of the game - of a game which basically consisted of banter. So please excuse my poor wits if I was not able to make a "strong argument" from those 19 banter-posts.

And it is not arguing G55 is a wolf but is just making the question concerning the odd thing she said. Why do you who cite that post always leave out the last sentence? Shouldn't that be called opportunistic?

Of course making a question points to something you wish others to consider (and thus there is an element of suspicion involved), but it is not making an argument or a case.

Anyway. From my latter posts which commented Galadriel you can see I was and am not pressing for an interpretation she is a wolf at the time being - so I find it odd I'm suspected more or less from trying to get her lynched.

Blah. I hoped to say more but the class is calling and I have to go. More later, hopefully something more constructive then.



PS. anyone willing to criticize others for not making strong enough arguments should produce at least one themselves before going critical...

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Nog

And to me that reads like "I'll drop the suspicion", not "I'm watching him closely but will dismiss this particualr suspicion".

Err - what's the difference?

Originally Posted by Agan

Why single out cobbler? Does she want to say, "No, see here, Bom is not the cobbler!!"
...
So how did it become about the cobbler? As I see it, Lottie originally also offered two other options! It looks like they're both reading too much into it: first Greenie grasps at a part of a sentence, then Lottie immediately backs off.
Weirdos.

Of Lottie's two other options, one was "wolf impersonating cobbler" - so I felt obliged to point out that Bom always looks like the cobbler anyway. Makes sense?

Anyhow, I need to do some reading and some thinking before posting anything more, these notes I already had from reading over yesterDay. Won't have a lot of time toDay due to having a book to read for a Uni paper and a ridiculously difficult exam coming up, but I'll do my best.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Somebody didn't like their bread, then? Huh. Don't look at me - I prefer apples myself anyway.

-snags one-

In any case, I'm going to read back over yesterday, but I'm still thinking hard about Agan.