WW: LXXXVIII - Trouble in the Misty Mountains: Game Thread

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

So why did you want to know, anyway, Greenie? Isn't it best to keep the evil side guessing? (Best for the village, at any rate.)

But you're not keeping the wolves guessing. They either attacked you or someone else, they know it and you know it. Any extra information you have to give us will only help us now. Today. The only ones you're keeping guessing are the villagers, because the wolves know who they attacked, and you know who you stopped from being killed.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Boro

But you're not keeping the wolves guessing. They either attacked you or someone else, they know it and you know it. Any extra information you have to give us will only help us now. Today. The only ones you're keeping guessing are the villagers, because the wolves know who they attacked, and you know who you stopped from being killed.

That's more or less what I was thinking. The wolves already know whether they attacked you or somebody else.

I'm off to take another look at yesterDay's mess of a voting, I think.

[A Little Green]

Something like this..

Kath - Greenie
Azura - Nerwen
Greenie - Inzil
Laeko - Inzil
Boro - Inzil
Inzil - Greenie

Quite frankly, if Boro and/or Laeko are wolves, they are sporty to a fault. Why kill a fellow instead of winning a game? But if neither of the two is a wolf, that would mean Kath and Azura are. I can say nothing at all about Azura, really, not based on two posts. Kath has looked pretty innocent to me, though I begun to have doubts yesterDay. Should probably have a look at her relationship with Inzil, not sure if I have the time right now but at least I can start.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Quite frankly, if Boro and/or Laeko are wolves, they are sporty to a fault. Why kill a fellow instead of winning a game? But if neither of the two is a wolf, that would mean Kath and Azura are. I can say nothing at all about Azura, really, not based on two posts. Kath has looked pretty innocent to me, though I begun to have doubts yesterDay. Should probably have a look at her relationship with Inzil, not sure if I have the time right now but at least I can start.

The way it boils down for me is 2 wolves amongst:

Greenie
Kath
Laeko
Azura

Based on the voting yesterday, it would appear a wolf either between Greenie and Kath. And a wolf either between Laeko and Azura. Sorry, Greenie, not going to take your word that you're innocent. I need to work out all the possible combinations first, but based on how voting was a bit hectic towards the end. It wouldn't surprise me if 2 wolves were up for lynch yesterday (Greenie and Inzil).

Although, if the innocents split their votes on 2 wolves, then I would think the pack would have enough amongst themselves to vote an innocent. Unless if Greenie and Inzil's 3rd mate was Azura, who votes Nerwen.

I feel like I'm not making any sense right now. But based on the numbers, there seems no way Kath's vote for Greenie could be innocent on innocent. And that Azura's vote for Nerwen also could not be innocent on innocent.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

But you're not keeping the wolves guessing. They either attacked you or someone else, they know it and you know it. Any extra information you have to give us will only help us now. Today. The only ones you're keeping guessing are the villagers, because the wolves know who they attacked, and you know who you stopped from being killed.

I have a reason. Just waiting to see a few more people's reactions.

Anyway, your guess at the pack is the same as mine. Actually, I thought the same yesterDay, and to, quote Greenie, "nothing has happened to change my mind".
The newbies do throw things out a bit, though, especially Azura,– it's always possible we're dealing with a wolf-cub who has had neither time nor interest even to graps what's going on. However, if Greenie is a wolf, I think Laeko would make the most sense as her fellow– as well as having a history of supporting Inzilawolf.

EDIT:X'd with Boro.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

The newbies do throw things out a bit, though, especially Azura,– it's always possible we're dealing with a wolf-cub who has had neither time nor interest even to graps what's going on. However, if Greenie is a wolf, I think Laeko would make the most sense as her fellow– as well as having a history of supporting Inzilawolf.

But if Laeko was the 3rd wolf, even after you revealed it wouldn't matter, Greenie, Inzil, and Laeko could have all voted for you and won. Unless...Greenie was unsure Laeko would be back to vote, because I believe Laeko's one post with vote came after Greenie's vote.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

But if Laeko was the 3rd wolf, even after you revealed it wouldn't matter, Greenie, Inzil, and Laeko could have all voted for you and won. Unless...Greenie was unsure Laeko would be back to vote, because I believe Laeko's one post with vote came after Greenie's vote.

Laeko's post came seven minutes after Greenie's, and both were in the last ten minutes. See, this is what throws the calculations out– if one of the n00bs is a wolf– and really, I don't see what else makes sense– then the others might have been in doubt whether he/she would show up at all.

[Nerwen]

That in itself would point to Azura more than Laeko, but not conclusively. Laeko has just sounded a fair bit more calculatingly wolfy to me– whereas Azura just seems uninterested and confused. Could be a confused *wolf*, though. In fact, come to think of it, you may be right. I mean, there was a fashion a while back for giving newbie wolves minimal guidance, so it wouldn't look like they were being coached.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

That in itself would point to Azura more than Laeko, but not conclusively. Laeko has just sounded a fair bit more calculatingly wolfy to me– whereas Azura just seems uninterested and confused. Could be a confused *wolf*, though. In fact, come to think of it, you may be right. I mean, there was a fashion a while back for giving newbie wolves minimal guidance, so it wouldn't look like they were being coached.

These next few hours are going to be the death of me, because I keep going back and forth. Laeko was looking suspect before we knew about Inzil's role, and I agree would look more like the calculative wolf.

But when Azura has posted...with just the vote and like 2 sentences. Both times he's tried to play the newbie card. The general "don't hate me, I'm still a newbie" feelings. Which quite frankly, comes off as very wolvy to me.

So we have one first-timer who looks more coached up, and thus suspicious. And the other, who is looking for sympathy "I'm only a newbie," and therefor suspicious. Ugh.

[Laeko_Randalis]

I've begun suspecting Azura for the past few days, for the one big reason that he never posts anything but votes. Now, on the one hand, it's very possible that this guy just wants to put the least amount of work in. However, my logic goes as thus: "if he were innocent, he wouldn't fear giving anything away, and he'd be more likely to actually say more than just a vote. However, were he a wolf, it would actually make sense for him to say as little as possible in an attempt to avoid giving himself away."

What I don't like in this case is knowing that, unless someone else agrees with me, voting for Azura would be a waste of a vote at this point.

EDIT: I must have spaced off Boro's post, 'cause now I see him making a similar point.

P.S. A "flaw," as it were, in a certain logical string I'm seeing: if I were a calculating/coached wolf, would I really have made my stupid tie-maker back when I voted Nerwen?