WW: LXXXVIII - Trouble in the Misty Mountains: Game Thread

[Inziladun]

First? After seven hours? Really?

Well, at any rate, it seems clear the guide is one of the ones responsible for this. Now, which one of you is the guide, again?

[Nerwen]

My poor treasure! And nobody cares!

...All right, then, someone else hurry up and post, so we can invoke the "first three posters" rule and begin the accusations.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

First? After seven hours? Really?

Well, at any rate, it seems clear the guide is one of the ones responsible for this. Now, which one of you is the guide, again?

I think the guide is not necessarily responsible. It does not seem to say anything about the guide in the second part. The three chaps are responsible, as far as I read it. Um... no, I am not the guide... put the thing away!!!

On a more serious note...

Originally Posted by Nerwen

...All right, then, someone else hurry up and post, so we can invoke the "first three posters" rule and begin the accusations.

Three.

I don't know what to start with, so just for recapitulation: we have what, 3 wolves, seer, hunter, and ranger. Given the numbers... given the numbers, I just hope we lynch people wisely. Then again, the odds are not that bad, the chance to lynch a Wolf is not that low. Also (and now perhaps something at least partially substantial comes at last), is it wise to assume that with this low numbers, the WWs won't wish to vote/accuse/whatever each other? Discuss

[Boromir88]

3 chaps? Nature is more deadly than 3 chaps. As much as we can love and protect nature, nature tends to find some pretty gruesome and painful ways to kill us. Alligators, bears, poisoned mushrooms, spiders, rabid raccoons, manchineel. If you don't die, you will at least be in remarkable pain.

Originally Posted by Legate

Also (and now perhaps something at least partially substantial comes at last), is it wise to assume that with this low numbers, the WWs won't wish to vote/accuse/whatever each other? Discuss

It always depends upon the wolf, you know this. They can win with 1 just as they can win with 3. It probably doesn't matter to them. I trust also by "lynching wisely" you mean don't lynch the gifteds? Easier said then done, since gifteds typically by the nature of their role, attract more attention then wolves.

[satansaloser2005]

Boro, my prince, hold me. Our beloved Shasta is dead, and these horrible villains could come after any one of us next. How will we cope?

Simple. We will run away, our lives again like the fairy tale of old, and we shall rid ourselves of this predicament and be free to be together forever. What say you, my love?

[satansaloser2005]

Also, why do I feel like I'm trapped in Tolkien's rendition of Oregon Trail?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

...All right, then, someone else hurry up and post, so we can invoke the "first three posters" rule and begin the accusations.

Right, then. I accuse everyone. That should cover it.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

I think the guide is not necessarily responsible. It does not seem to say anything about the guide in the second part. The three chaps are responsible, as far as I read it. Um... no, I am not the guide... put the thing away!!!

The guide did just happen to get us lost, though. We could have all been safe and sound in Rivendell by now. That was where we were going, right?

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Given the numbers... given the numbers, I just hope we lynch people wisely. Then again, the odds are not that bad, the chance to lynch a Wolf is not that low. Also (and now perhaps something at least partially substantial comes at last), is it wise to assume that with this low numbers, the WWs won't wish to vote/accuse/whatever each other? Discuss

Of course, with a smaller field, the odds of hitting wolves are better, but so are the odds of getting a Gifted.

As for as wolvish tactics, I don't think anything could be ruled out. I wouldn't think wolf-on-wolf would be necessary, but who knows?

Originally Posted by Boromir88

It always depends upon the wolf, you know this. They can win with 1 just as they can win with 3. It probably doesn't matter to them. I trust also by "lynching wisely" you mean don't lynch the gifteds? Easier said then done, since gifteds typically by the nature of their role, attract more attention then wolves.

What he said.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Also, why do I feel like I'm trapped in Tolkien's rendition of Oregon Trail?

*WIN*

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Our beloved Shasta is dead, and these horrible villains could come after any one of us next. How will we cope?

Cake, lots of cake.

Originally Posted by Inzil

I wouldn't think wolf-on-wolf would be necessary, but who knows?

Could be crazy enough to work though, depends on the wolves.

Originally Posted by Laeko

"The question, then, is who, or what, did this?"

Was it you?

Originally Posted by Boro

I think I know the reference, Game of Thrones? And she better not be acting like Sansa.

Rage against GoT RAGE!

Originally Posted by Bom

Shield? A shield for what? I promise I have nothing to hide. But it's either joke or say nothing (or make obvious observations about the rules), and joking is more interesting.

Although I suppose my jokes are a bit more than that - I've noticed that those who overreact to them tend to have something to hide. *cough*Pitchwife*cough*

I find the back and forth between Pitch, Boro, and Bom interesting, for reasons I have yet to decide on.
Boro:

I know enough by now to know you're always joking on Day 1. But that is itself the point. No matter what, you're going to use your jokes as a shield. So, really, I don't think Pitch was missing the point. I will grant that your jokes and reasons, I did actually laugh at this time.

Pitch:

it may have been a joke, or it may have been something to build on later, as long as nobody checked. Without being able to look into your head, how am I supposed to know?

These three posts are what jumped out at me.
In regards to what Boro said about Bom using jokes as a shield I think that can be said for most everyone on Day 1. I thought it was interesting Boro brought up only Bom.
I like the point Pitch made, but not because it was directed at Bom, but I think that's a good thing to keep in mind in general. Any one of these banter/ silly accusations could be easily forgotten and then built on later for good or evil. It's a stretch, but some banter shouldn't be completely discarded.

What I've seen as most interesting is Bom's defense of his jokes over the course of a few of his posts. (15 & 20 mostly). That seemed fishy to me. I shouldn't be too quick to judge though, he's not the only one to keep bringing up the joke posts. Inzil, Boro, and Pitch made more than one mention of it as well.

It seems like too easy a target to jump on. I guess at least it's circulating conversation...

Originally Posted by Pitch

Good point. So what is it with you playing Sansa and the Fool with Boro?
(And OT, doesn't being threatened by wolves make you more like a Lannister?)

Gods, I must leave the game over GoT, I swear I will. *puts fingers in ears...er eyes*

Originally Posted by Bom

@Pitchwife: Mainly because you're so horribly vicious. It seems like you're overly eager to divert suspicion away from yourself.

I know I came late and time is short, but you explain why he's so vicious?

Originally Posted by G55

Note that I'm neither defending nor accusing any one of these people. At least not yet. I'm just saying how pointless this debate is. (And how hypocritical is that - just adding to it? )

I read this post after making my above observations. I feel much the same way.

Originally Posted by Pitch

Like where, when? Because I 'overreacted' to your alleged jokes and tried to coax some sense out of you?
Look, Bom, if you're innocent, I'd hate to get into a fight with you over your playing style and give the wolves something to latch on to, but you're not making it particularly easy for me not to. It might help to hear what you think of the rest of this caravan. (And don't give me none of that "It's Day 1, too early to say" crap.)

I would like an explanation from Bom as well, but this seems like Pitchie got his hackles raised.

Originally Posted by Bom

That sort of thing is exactly what I meant when I mentioned you being vicious - she tries to stop a seemingly pointless fight and you think it means she's a wolf.

(I'm sorry my post is all over the place, train of thought writing tonight I'm afraid.)
In response to this, Pitch seems reasonable enough in what he said to G55. I agreed with G55 that something more interesting could be going on, but Pitch isn't being unreasonable in saying playing the middle ground is as wolfish as anything else. I don't agree with him in this case, but I don't this is an example of him being vicious.

Originally Posted by Pitch

I'd like to see more of Zil, Kath, Greenie and Nerwen

What about me? My poor feelings.

So this whole post has been kind of rambling and half serious. It was a horrible day at work, but I'm doing my best to get my heart in it for the last few hours.
That said here are some thoughts:
I feel out of the Inzil, Boro, Bom, and Pitch thing, Boro speaks the most sense. I don't know how I feel about Inzil. And Bom and Pitch are at each others' throats.
Pitch makes a good point about G55 and how she is just sort of straddling the middle ground, but I don't really like how he got his hackles up when Bom called him vicious. I don't agree with Bom when he says Pitch is vicious, but his reaction was kind of alarming.
Bom is no better with getting his panties all up in a twist. He jokes, he's not the only one, bringing that up initially might have been a waste of time, but watching his reaction and others has made for interesting debate. Nerwen calls him an easy target. I don't know how true that is, but he certainly isn't doing himself any favors by getting so worked up. The more worked up he gets the more noticeable and suspicious he becomes. Wolves and innocents do this and that's why I think he's so dangerous. On the other hand Pitch is helping him stay in the spotlight and that's equally as dangerous.

On another topic Kath's vote reasoning has me worried.

Originally Posted by Kath

I feel she's a player that shows her mettle better under a bit of pressure. I know she's got the brains. Let's see 'em!

I read this like Kath wants to bandwagon Sally to scare her into revealing something that may or may not be there. That seems downright dastardly to me.

[Bom Tombadillo]

Well, while I disagree with the idea Pitchwife's explanation for his behavior so far, it is enough to get me off his back for now (though he's still a candidate for voting until/unless somebody else starts acting suspicious). I'd hate to vote G55 for what seems to me like a genuine peacekeeping effort, and nobody else is really standing out much to me.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Kit

Gods, I must leave the game over GoT, I swear I will. *puts fingers in ears...er eyes*

It's nice to know at least one person who's on my side.


In other news, I woke up ridiculously sick this morning. I didn't sleep well the Night before last, so that didn't help. Anyway, it's doubtful I'll be around much toDay, but I'll try. Hopefully I'll feel better in a few hours (for instance, after killing a werewolf).



Re: Pitch: I told thee so!
Re: Elf-Warrior: What the heck, wolves? I really wanted to lynch him!


Oh, and whoever posts a snazzy vote count from yesterDay gets free cupcake snuggles.



Sally out.