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Old 10-28-2011, 03:04 AM   #1
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Now then, it seems to me that the logical place to begin in creating an "Elven forest-daughter character" is to take a look at the female Elves who do appear in the canon somewhere. The following come to mind immediately:

Míriel
Indil
Nerdanel
Aredhel
Galadriel
Lúthien
Nellas
Finduilas
Arwen

There are probably a few more, wives of some of the more peripheral Elvenkings, but I doubt they are likely to reveal much more than these. .
Ahem..... one rather spectacular omission Formy, and considering that PJ nicked her name for his first essai into souping up the elf woman quotient.

Not exactly peripheral is she, heiress to Gondolin, Idril Celebrindal, beautiful, beloved and brave. Noble and wise enough to keep her own counsel and prepare an emergency exit and so save at least some of her people. And tried again to aid them by sailing west.

She is one of my favourite characters and too often gets overlooked. But maybe not, for all his faults by PJ, since he gave screen Arwen her great grandmother's sword.

I haven't seen casting for Galion yet and I would be sorry if he were lost but there will have to be various elves either at the feasting or rafting. I don't have a particular problem with a woman being prominent among raft elves - there were no roles exclusive to only men or women among the Eldar at least though some tended to be mainly male or female preserves and Tolkien notes that there was less difference in strength between male and childless female elves than between mortal men and women. Managing a raft is more a skill thing than a strength thing anyway.

I don't see why she shouldn't be Thranduil's queen. There can't be so much difference in age between Bloom and wossisnamechappiefrom Pushing Daisies ..

[goggles .... Lee Pace is infact 2 years younger than Orlando Bloom and the same age as Evangeline Lilly]

Because PJ has not much in the way of subtlety Thranduil will need someone to talk to to express his thoughts on the untrustworthiness of Dwarves... it could be his son of course or it could be Tauriel missus....

Or Tauriel could be an exasperated royal housekeeper who can't understand why stuff keeps disappearing from her kitchen.
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:37 PM   #2
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Ahem..... one rather spectacular omission Formy, and considering that PJ nicked her name for his first essai into souping up the elf woman quotient.

Not exactly peripheral is she, heiress to Gondolin, Idril Celebrindal, beautiful, beloved and brave. Noble and wise enough to keep her own counsel and prepare an emergency exit and so save at least some of her people. And tried again to aid them by sailing west.

She is one of my favourite characters and too often gets overlooked. But maybe not, for all his faults by PJ, since he gave screen Arwen her great grandmother's sword.

Lee Pace is infact 2 years younger than Orlando Bloom and the same age as Evangeline Lilly]

Because PJ has not much in the way of subtlety Thranduil will need someone to talk to to express his thoughts on the untrustworthiness of Dwarves... it could be his son of course or it could be Tauriel missus....

Or Tauriel could be an exasperated royal housekeeper who can't understand why stuff keeps disappearing from her kitchen.
Several good points here, Mithalwen! I had no idea that Thranduilee is Younger than The Golden Orlie?? (Blink, blink.) Whatever.... Okay.

And the Idril reminder is very well considered. She was a mover of men.

I love the exasperated housekeeper idea. There's real room for creativity there. What might she not do? Even if she is nought but a serving maid it would be her responsibility to report such a breach of security to her chain of command. Meaning: Thranduil, and if she can't find him, well, the prince is the next best thing. Ah-hah. And of course the local housekeeper ought to have something to do with the (broken-hearted? butler?
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:47 AM   #3
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The thought of cooks missing things reminded me of this http://youtu.be/d5uUfspRqXE
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