The Valley Forge - WW LXXXVII - Admin Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Folwren · 08-11-2011, 03:03 PM

Ha. I have FINALLY gotten around to reading the thread and figuring out how exactly I want this game to go. A lot of people raised some really good questions and pointed out some good stuff in the first days of this thread.

So...here's what I'm thinking.

The Sweetheart will be a player who is appointed the role at the beginning of the game, along with everybody else. However, she shall not take her place as the sweetheart until she has identified the King's Dwarf. She does this by sending in two names each night to me. I will only reply, "This person is not the KD" or "This person is the KD". As soon as she has identified him, he is aware of who she is. Then, if the Forge members decide to kill the sweetheart during the night, the KD will die in her place.

In addition, I have decided to CHANGE THE RULE CONCERNING THE KD'S DEATH being the end of the game if killed at night.

If the KD is killed at night purposefully by the Forges, the Sweetheart will also be killed, but the game will not end.

There is another part I'm thinking about with the Sweetheart, but I almost want it to be a secret for only the KD and the Sweetheart to know about. How do you all feel concerning that? I will tell you that it involves communication between the KD and the Sweetheart during the night phase, and it involves the Watchdwarf and saving people. I just don't want to put out the where and how information.

At no point in time can the King's Dwarf reveal his identity.

Did I cover everything? Any holes that anybody can see? I will now go back and edit the first post so all this is in a more concise form.

And Thank you, Pitchwife, for joining us!

Sign up is still open for anybody who wishes to join. We will probably start Saturday or Sunday. I'm leaning towards Saturday.

-- Foley

Galadriel55 · 08-11-2011, 03:10 PM

Thank you Foley! I just want to clarify this: if the KD is killed/lynched, does the game continue regardless of the circumstances? Unless wolves=innocents in number...

Folwren · 08-11-2011, 03:27 PM

Yes, Galadriel - the game continues as normal if the villagers kill the KD.

I want to point out that I also added this to the first post:

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The members of the Forge can only kill the King’s Dwarf at night if there are two or more of them left to do so. Once the game comes down to one Forge member left and the King’s Dwarf is still alive, that final Forge member cannot kill him.

Pitchwife, I think, pointed out that when all but one member had been killed, that member would know who the KD was and he'd kill him. Well, I didn't much like that. So if it comes down to the point where there is one member left and the KD, then that member's only hope, I guess, would be to get the KD lynched.

Is that fair, do you suppose?

I know this question is going to come up - will the Forge still get a kill that night? Yes, it will.

-- Foley

Folwren · 08-11-2011, 03:28 PM

Deadline is 4 EST, btw.

Also, I have edited the first post. Go read it if you have questions on the rules, and then if your question still isn't answered, ask me.

-- Foley

the phantom · 08-11-2011, 04:00 PM

This may have already been asked, but I only had time to read the rules post, so....

How exactly does the Forge go about killing the KD during the night? As a Forge member, couldn't the KD send in a different kill to the moderator first? Or is one member of the Forge the official kill selector each night? Or do all members send kill votes separately and the Moderator tallies them to determine the winner?

Galadriel55 · 08-11-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

This may have already been asked, but I only had time to read the rules post, so....

How exactly does the Forge go about killing the KD during the night? As a Forge member, couldn't the KD send in a different kill to the moderator first? Or is one member of the Forge the official kill selector each night? Or do all members send kill votes separately and the Moderator tallies them to determine the winner?

I think this could be solved by making the person sending the kill forward it to the other Forgers, or send them a copy - otherwise the kill won't be made.

Inziladun · 08-11-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I think this could be solved by making the person sending the kill forward it to the other Forgers, or send them a copy - otherwise the kill won't be made.

Sending in the wrong kill would be an obvious tipoff to the Forge members of who the KD was, though.

the phantom · 08-11-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gal55

I think this could be solved by making the person sending the kill forward it to the other Forgers, or send them a copy - otherwise the kill won't be made.

Well, that would certainly be another way to get rid of the loophole.

If Foley wants to be rid of it, that is. Leaving things as they are might lead to some interesting chaos.

08-11-2011, 03:03 PM	#1
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Revisiting the rules... Ha. I have FINALLY gotten around to reading the thread and figuring out how exactly I want this game to go. A lot of people raised some really good questions and pointed out some good stuff in the first days of this thread. So...here's what I'm thinking. The Sweetheart will be a player who is appointed the role at the beginning of the game, along with everybody else. However, she shall not take her place as the sweetheart until she has identified the King's Dwarf. She does this by sending in two names each night to me. I will only reply, "This person is not the KD" or "This person is the KD". As soon as she has identified him, he is aware of who she is. Then, if the Forge members decide to kill the sweetheart during the night, the KD will die in her place. In addition, I have decided to CHANGE THE RULE CONCERNING THE KD'S DEATH being the end of the game if killed at night. If the KD is killed at night purposefully by the Forges, the Sweetheart will also be killed, but the game will not end. There is another part I'm thinking about with the Sweetheart, but I almost want it to be a secret for only the KD and the Sweetheart to know about. How do you all feel concerning that? I will tell you that it involves communication between the KD and the Sweetheart during the night phase, and it involves the Watchdwarf and saving people. I just don't want to put out the where and how information. At no point in time can the King's Dwarf reveal his identity. Did I cover everything? Any holes that anybody can see? I will now go back and edit the first post so all this is in a more concise form. And Thank you, Pitchwife, for joining us! Sign up is still open for anybody who wishes to join. We will probably start Saturday or Sunday. I'm leaning towards Saturday. -- Foley __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

08-11-2011, 03:10 PM	#2
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,495	Thank you Foley! I just want to clarify this: if the KD is killed/lynched, does the game continue regardless of the circumstances? Unless wolves=innocents in number... __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

08-11-2011, 03:28 PM	#4
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Deadline is 4 EST, btw. Also, I have edited the first post. Go read it if you have questions on the rules, and then if your question still isn't answered, ask me. -- Foley __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

08-11-2011, 04:00 PM	#5
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	This may have already been asked, but I only had time to read the rules post, so.... How exactly does the Forge go about killing the KD during the night? As a Forge member, couldn't the KD send in a different kill to the moderator first? Or is one member of the Forge the official kill selector each night? Or do all members send kill votes separately and the Moderator tallies them to determine the winner? __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.