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Bom Tombadillo · 08-01-2011, 01:51 PM

I'm back early! Yaaaay!

I'd say we can better afford to lose a Seer; not just because I'm one of the potential Rangers, but because if we kill the Ranger, the real Seer dies toNight anyway.

Eönwë · 08-01-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bom Tombadillo

I'd say we can better afford to lose a Seer; not just because I'm one of the potential Rangers, but because if we kill the Ranger, the real Seer dies toNight anyway.

You make a good point, I didn't consider that. You're probably right.

Eönwë · 08-01-2011, 02:33 PM

New approach- The Pros and Cons of lynch-candidates:

Eomer- Claims he's the seer.

Pros:
- If he is proven to be the seer, then we have two known wolves, and also know the identity of our Ranger.
- If he is a wolf, we know who the seer is.
- If he really is not a wolf, it's most likely that he'll die tonight.

Cons:
- If he is the seer, we've lost our seer.
- If he is the seer, then the wolves will kill our ranger as well (assuming one of the revealers is a wolf).
- If he's a wolf, we don't know the identity of the ranger, and we have no known wolves from the seer (but the latter is just hopefulness, and shouldn't actually be considered in the same terms).

Galadriel55 · 08-01-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë

- If he's a wolf, we don't know the identity of the ranger, and we have no known wolves from the seer (but the latter is just hopefulness, and shouldn't actually be considered in the same terms).

But we have a known wolf Bom who claims to have protected Eomer.

And I like your new approach! Seems a very effective way of summing things up!

Eönwë · 08-01-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

But we have a known wolf Bom who claims to have protected Eomer.

Unless they risked it all and actually voted for one of their own. Is this allowed Lottie?

edit: but yeah, he would practically be a known wolf, as that seems very unlikely. Just want to cover all possibilities.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-01-2011, 02:53 PM

Tum as Frodo
Foley as Sam
Sally as Merry
Eomer as Pippin
G55 as Fredregar Bolger
Shasta as Legolas
Eruhen as Gimli
Eonwe as Boromir
Boro as Gandalf
Bom Tombadillo as Tom Bombadil
Nerwen as Galadriel

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Let me see.

Eomer - Seer
Bom - Ranger
Boro - Hunter

Nerwen - Wolf
Shasta - Wolf

And considering the interaction with Shasta & Nerwen yesterday, I think the following are probably innocent:

G55
Eonwe
Eruhen

Which leaves our last wolfy as Tum, Folwren or Sally.

I say it's Sally.

Eönwë · 08-01-2011, 02:59 PM

Bom- Claims to be the ranger

Pros:
- If he is the Ranger, it is almost certain that Eomer is not a wolf.
- If he is the Ranger, it's very likely that Shasta is a wolf
- Together, these heavily would imply that Eomer is the seer, and so we'd also have a likely second wolf.
- If he is a wolf, we almost certainly know that Shasta is the ranger, which means that Boro is an innocent.
- If he is a wolf, we know Shasta is the Ranger, which them means that Eomer is a wolf too, which means that Nerwen is the Seer and so we also have two known innocents.

Cons:
- If he is the Ranger, we've lost our ranger.
- If he is the Ranger, the wolves can easily kill the true seer as well.
- If he is the Ranger, we still can't be certain who the seer is.

Eönwë · 08-01-2011, 03:11 PM

Shasta- Claims to be the Ranger

Pros:
- If he's the Ranger, we know that Bom isn't and so is probably a wolf.
- If he's the Ranger, we know that Eomer isn't the seer and is probably a wolf.
- If he's the Ranger, Boro is almost certainly innocent.
- If he's a wolf, Bom is most likely the Ranger, in which case Eomer is at the very least innocent, in which case Nerwen could be a wolf too.

Cons:
- If he's the ranger, we lose our ranger.
- If he's the ranger, our seer can also be killed toNight.
- If he's a wolf, we don't know for certain who the seer is.

Eruhen · 08-01-2011, 03:00 PM

So, so far, we have:

?Seerwen? --> Eomer
?Shastanis Rangerduin? --> Eomer

No surprises there, seeing as he tapped both of them yesterDay.

Galadriel55 · 08-01-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bom Tombadillo

I'd say we can better afford to lose a Seer; not just because I'm one of the potential Rangers, but because if we kill the Ranger, the real Seer dies toNight anyway.

I think it's a good point, and considering this and Eonwe's Pros&Cons we should be able to decide on a candidate, and NOT have a four-way tie.

08-01-2011, 01:51 PM	#1
Bom Tombadillo Wight Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Behind you . . . . BOO! Posts: 222	I'm back early! Yaaaay! I'd say we can better afford to lose a Seer; not just because I'm one of the potential Rangers, but because if we kill the Ranger, the real Seer dies toNight anyway. __________________ Every human should have a cat or two in their care, to teach them the meaning of the word, and to correct them. Phenris Dorph

08-01-2011, 02:33 PM	#3
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	New approach- The Pros and Cons of lynch-candidates: Eomer- Claims he's the seer. Pros: - If he is proven to be the seer, then we have two known wolves, and also know the identity of our Ranger. - If he is a wolf, we know who the seer is. - If he really is not a wolf, it's most likely that he'll die tonight. Cons: - If he is the seer, we've lost our seer. - If he is the seer, then the wolves will kill our ranger as well (assuming one of the revealers is a wolf). - If he's a wolf, we don't know the identity of the ranger, and we have no known wolves from the seer (but the latter is just hopefulness, and shouldn't actually be considered in the same terms). __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

08-01-2011, 02:53 PM	#6
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Tum as Frodo Foley as Sam Sally as Merry Eomer as Pippin G55 as Fredregar Bolger Shasta as Legolas Eruhen as Gimli Eonwe as Boromir Boro as Gandalf Bom Tombadillo as Tom Bombadil Nerwen as Galadriel ---------------- Let me see. Eomer - Seer Bom - Ranger Boro - Hunter Nerwen - Wolf Shasta - Wolf And considering the interaction with Shasta & Nerwen yesterday, I think the following are probably innocent: G55 Eonwe Eruhen Which leaves our last wolfy as Tum, Folwren or Sally. I say it's Sally. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-01-2011, 02:59 PM	#7
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Bom- Claims to be the ranger Pros: - If he is the Ranger, it is almost certain that Eomer is not a wolf. - If he is the Ranger, it's very likely that Shasta is a wolf - Together, these heavily would imply that Eomer is the seer, and so we'd also have a likely second wolf. - If he is a wolf, we almost certainly know that Shasta is the ranger, which means that Boro is an innocent. - If he is a wolf, we know Shasta is the Ranger, which them means that Eomer is a wolf too, which means that Nerwen is the Seer and so we also have two known innocents. Cons: - If he is the Ranger, we've lost our ranger. - If he is the Ranger, the wolves can easily kill the true seer as well. - If he is the Ranger, we still can't be certain who the seer is. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

08-01-2011, 03:11 PM	#8
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Shasta- Claims to be the Ranger Pros: - If he's the Ranger, we know that Bom isn't and so is probably a wolf. - If he's the Ranger, we know that Eomer isn't the seer and is probably a wolf. - If he's the Ranger, Boro is almost certainly innocent. - If he's a wolf, Bom is most likely the Ranger, in which case Eomer is at the very least innocent, in which case Nerwen could be a wolf too. Cons: - If he's the ranger, we lose our ranger. - If he's the ranger, our seer can also be killed toNight. - If he's a wolf, we don't know for certain who the seer is. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

08-01-2011, 03:00 PM	#9
Eruhen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: At the Mountains of Madness Posts: 399	So, so far, we have: ?Seerwen? --> Eomer ?Shastanis Rangerduin? --> Eomer No surprises there, seeing as he tapped both of them yesterDay. __________________ Agannâlô burôda nênud; zâira nênud. Adûn izindi batân tâidô ayadda: îdô kâtha batîna lôkhî. Êphalak îdôn Yôzâyan. Êphal êphalak îdôn hi-Akallabêth.