Wight Fright: "Fog on the Barrow-Downs" Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mithalwen · 06-24-2011, 06:29 PM

OK well I will try and do Jessie tomorrow but Sunday is more likely. I may slot it in before the post for Erling. Let me know if I need to change anything.

Durelin · 07-11-2011, 11:57 AM

Just to let you know I'll be gone from the 14th-19th!

Maybe when I get back we can talk about that sequel again.

Hope life is treating you well, Mith, Evinyatar!

Mithalwen · 07-11-2011, 01:26 PM

Sorry I keep meaning ot post then get distracted. but I am nearly there... Sorry I am so damn lazy. I have been thinking about it a lot but forget that I can't just get the puter to process my thoughts...

I have also been thinking about the sequel but haven't got much further than the circumstances that might conspire to make Jess leave. Anyway... I should maybe stop talking about the post in hand and get on with it... and hope Envinyatar will be able to join us soon

Mithalwen · 07-20-2011, 12:57 PM

I Thought reviewing events for Edwin's benefit might lead Jessamy to twig about Willem - but he will have to agree to her conditions.

Let me know if I need to change anything particularly as concerns Edwin's dad - I amy have made too many assumptions. Such as Cassy being dead rather than otherwise lost.

There is another mother reference in p23 you might want to correct in case anyone else reads this.

Hope you enjoyed your gallivanting!!

Durelin · 07-22-2011, 12:30 PM

Oh geez...thanks Mith for noticing another reference. I should read the whole thread over but I kind of dread doing that for fear of noticing all the discrepancies on my part...

But yes, I was thinking Cassy was dead. Illness when Edwin was very young or something.

I really should read the thread over and maybe get some ideas about Part 2...you been thinking about it at all, Mith?

And thank you, I did enjoy my adventure! Except for it being very humid and getting lots of bug bites... Great company though so it was fun.

Mithalwen · 07-22-2011, 01:28 PM

I don't know what insects live on when I am not around. I left Venice with bites the size of fifty pence pieces all over my arms and looked like I had a medieaval disease. Awful. So the next time I went to somewhere hot and insecty (Florida Everglades) I covered myself with so much DEET all the lettering came off camera. I daren't ever go somewhere they have malaria. But it is so cold here I might be grateful for any warmth - I even turned the central heating back on yesterday.

Anyway hmm I don't know... I can see clearly circumstances which would cause Jessamy to leave, stifled and unappreciated but after not sure... as far as I have found out so far any survivors of Tharbad pretty much hid themselves away in teh Eryn Vorn so if they found noone around there they might carry on south. Now if I have got the dates right Thengel is Lord of Rohan and Saruman is starting to cause trouble for them having declared himself Lord of Isengard and started causing trouble. Might get something out of that? Dunlendings maybe... Plot isn't my strongest suit.

Durelin · 08-12-2011, 02:28 PM

Sorry for being MIA for a bit! Have you had some warm days up there yet? We've finally been having some pleasant days in the upper 80s rather than upper 90s

Posted for Tate and Edwin; I'll try to do a post for Karl soon, too.

As for Part 2! I suppose it depends on how many years we want to skip ahead in their lives. From what I found online, Saruman claims Isengard in 2953. So that would be 14 years. It would certainly work fine, except that it might be unrealistic that Jessamy's avoided marriage for that long.

I'm sure we can assume there's other trouble stirring in the meantime, as well...

I suppose for Edwin the is his father dying, once his liver gives out. Edwin would want to move on, probably, to get away from his father's legacy. And because of his friendship with Karl, who also doesn't belong in Bree. So he'll maybe convince Karl to finally move on to somewhere else, travel further since he doesn't really have a home there to begin with.

I'm having these ideas that really aren't very lore-friendly. I'm thinking it would be too much for (one of) them to have a run in with a Black Rider and (of course no one takes them seriously round Bree)...then I guess there's two possibilities. The more realistic (by a little) is them being afraid it's after them and wanting to flee their little town so it won't terrorize people or something. The other might be that they want to find out what it is and warn someone important about it. But I'm not entirely sure where that would send them.

Sauron didn't know Bilbo had the ring until 3017ish, but I imagine the Nazgul were up to something at this point. I imagine they could have been searching for the ring rather than just sitting around in Minas Morgul? But each on their own, not in a group, and scattered all over.

I know we were talking about the last fright maybe being seeing a Black Rider, so it might be redundant. But it also might make it all the more concerning for whoever runs in to the Black Rider (sees it, speaks to it?) that this Rider has been around before.

06-24-2011, 06:29 PM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	OK well I will try and do Jessie tomorrow but Sunday is more likely. I may slot it in before the post for Erling. Let me know if I need to change anything. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

07-11-2011, 01:26 PM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Sorry I keep meaning ot post then get distracted. but I am nearly there... Sorry I am so damn lazy. I have been thinking about it a lot but forget that I can't just get the puter to process my thoughts... I have also been thinking about the sequel but haven't got much further than the circumstances that might conspire to make Jess leave. Anyway... I should maybe stop talking about the post in hand and get on with it... and hope Envinyatar will be able to join us soon __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

07-20-2011, 12:57 PM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I Thought reviewing events for Edwin's benefit might lead Jessamy to twig about Willem - but he will have to agree to her conditions. Let me know if I need to change anything particularly as concerns Edwin's dad - I amy have made too many assumptions. Such as Cassy being dead rather than otherwise lost. There is another mother reference in p23 you might want to correct in case anyone else reads this. Hope you enjoyed your gallivanting!! __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace Last edited by Mithalwen; 07-20-2011 at 01:14 PM.

07-22-2011, 01:28 PM	#6
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I don't know what insects live on when I am not around. I left Venice with bites the size of fifty pence pieces all over my arms and looked like I had a medieaval disease. Awful. So the next time I went to somewhere hot and insecty (Florida Everglades) I covered myself with so much DEET all the lettering came off camera. I daren't ever go somewhere they have malaria. But it is so cold here I might be grateful for any warmth - I even turned the central heating back on yesterday. Anyway hmm I don't know... I can see clearly circumstances which would cause Jessamy to leave, stifled and unappreciated but after not sure... as far as I have found out so far any survivors of Tharbad pretty much hid themselves away in teh Eryn Vorn so if they found noone around there they might carry on south. Now if I have got the dates right Thengel is Lord of Rohan and Saruman is starting to cause trouble for them having declared himself Lord of Isengard and started causing trouble. Might get something out of that? Dunlendings maybe... Plot isn't my strongest suit. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

07-11-2011, 11:57 AM	#2
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Just to let you know I'll be gone from the 14th-19th! Maybe when I get back we can talk about that sequel again. Hope life is treating you well, Mith, Evinyatar!

07-22-2011, 12:30 PM	#5
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Oh geez...thanks Mith for noticing another reference. I should read the whole thread over but I kind of dread doing that for fear of noticing all the discrepancies on my part... But yes, I was thinking Cassy was dead. Illness when Edwin was very young or something. I really should read the thread over and maybe get some ideas about Part 2...you been thinking about it at all, Mith? And thank you, I did enjoy my adventure! Except for it being very humid and getting lots of bug bites... Great company though so it was fun.

08-12-2011, 02:28 PM	#7
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Sorry for being MIA for a bit! Have you had some warm days up there yet? We've finally been having some pleasant days in the upper 80s rather than upper 90s Posted for Tate and Edwin; I'll try to do a post for Karl soon, too. As for Part 2! I suppose it depends on how many years we want to skip ahead in their lives. From what I found online, Saruman claims Isengard in 2953. So that would be 14 years. It would certainly work fine, except that it might be unrealistic that Jessamy's avoided marriage for that long. I'm sure we can assume there's other trouble stirring in the meantime, as well... I suppose for Edwin the is his father dying, once his liver gives out. Edwin would want to move on, probably, to get away from his father's legacy. And because of his friendship with Karl, who also doesn't belong in Bree. So he'll maybe convince Karl to finally move on to somewhere else, travel further since he doesn't really have a home there to begin with. I'm having these ideas that really aren't very lore-friendly. I'm thinking it would be too much for (one of) them to have a run in with a Black Rider and (of course no one takes them seriously round Bree)...then I guess there's two possibilities. The more realistic (by a little) is them being afraid it's after them and wanting to flee their little town so it won't terrorize people or something. The other might be that they want to find out what it is and warn someone important about it. But I'm not entirely sure where that would send them. Sauron didn't know Bilbo had the ring until 3017ish, but I imagine the Nazgul were up to something at this point. I imagine they could have been searching for the ring rather than just sitting around in Minas Morgul? But each on their own, not in a group, and scattered all over. I know we were talking about the last fright maybe being seeing a Black Rider, so it might be redundant. But it also might make it all the more concerning for whoever runs in to the Black Rider (sees it, speaks to it?) that this Rider has been around before.