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Old 06-22-2011, 09:27 PM   #13
Puddleglum
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I have always wondered about the fact that - as Pippin said - Hobbits were never on "the old lists". The Elves and dwarves were aware of their existence, but other than that...
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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 View Post
I wouldn't ay that they are forgotten. They were just unknown.
I was thinking (admittedly, just speculation) and there may be another reason why Hobbits were not on the old lists.

It may be simply because they *WERE* the OLD Lists. That is, Hobbits don't seem to enter into any records until sometime in the Third Age and the lists may well have been made far back in the First Age (or before). Even if they were updated in the Second Age, the Third Age was the time of Fading for the Elves and they may simply not have bothered officially updating the lists (and passing the updates along to Ents & others) by that time.
The Ents, of course, had already lost the Entwives and seem to have been going more insular themselves (as Men continued expanding). Yet one more reason why, even if some elves somewhere had thought of updating the lists, any changes wouldn't become widely known by Ents.

Just a speculation.
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