Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[littlemanpoet]

I'm thinking about bringing Rowenna back...

[Loslote]

Oh, I'm sorry - I totally forgot about this. I'll start keeping up with the thread again, but for now I'm afraid I don't really have much to add.

[Folwren]

Rowenna would definitely be fun to have back, but I still think we need more women folk.

[Durelin]

Sorry if you've already discussed this...

Eodwine is at Edoras, right? So as soon as he's recovered, the King is going to know (unless the King isn't at 'court' which is possible but you know). Then I would think he would decide whether Eodwine is returning as the Eorl or not, though he might take into account Eodwine's desires. Would the King want him to return, or would he want him to stay on at Edoras with his having just recovered?

Just some thoughts. And a message from the King coming before Eodwine in addition to letters from Eodwine would make sense I would think. Then it might be up to Athanar if he announces publicly that Eodwine is returning and not as Eorl.

If that make sense?

As for a time jump, that sounds great. Enough of a time jump to freshen things up. I think jumping to Eodwine's return is just as good as anything.

I need to think on what Coen and the soldiers might be up to during this time; what the tensions have been like or whatever. I do know that Coen has been SO very frustrated the entire time and with the news that Eodwine is already recovered and coming back he is going to flip a little. He's probably going to see it as an insult to Athanar. But you know he's quiet about these things. Maybe some/all of the Athanar's men would feel the same way. Coen would keep them in line without telling them off because he would agree with them.

In Coen's mind he will be very wary of this whole thing. The new Eorl is just settling in and already Eodwine's returning to Scarburg. Even if Eodwine really doesn't want to be Eorl again (which, first of all, how would Coen know, and second, he wouldn't trust him on it one bit), people have loyalty to him. And Coen is certain that Eodwine's going to be meddling.

That's what would be going on in Coen's mind. I don’t know how much of it might be reflected in Athanar’s men. He will be doing his best to undo the division between Athanar’s men and those previously Eodwine’s men, especially with word of Eodwine’s return. But at the same time he’s going to feel like it shouldn’t be his problem, or that he really just wants to be rid of all these people coming so close (in his mind) to challenging the King’s word (and of course Athanar’s). So I can see some problems among the soldiers. Maybe the men who know Coen realizing how troubled he is, and the men from Scarburg thinking they have a cold commander who hates everyone but his lord.

Oh, and Coen is on very cool terms with Thornden, of course.

Anyway, my thoughts; I hope they were what you were looking for? Sorry for a lot of self-important *my character thinks this* stuff.

[Nogrod]

Great to see you Dury - and you also brought up a very important topic!

Like you said, the King would know about Eodwine getting better and he would be the one to decide who runs the Mead Hall - and he would be very much cognizant of the possible rift producing in Scarburg as he has had the messengers telling him of the two now outlaws who had almost killed one of Athanar's men. And it would be very bad politics from him to first appoint lord Athanar as an eorl and immediately ripping him off the status - especially as he would have soon heard about his success in dealing with the local lords, well at least of the good beginning with it.

So what would king Eomer decide?

He would know Eodwine's greatest desire would be to meet his pregnant wife as soon as possible and he wouldn't have a heart (or wish) to deny it from him. So, Eodwine is coming to Scarburg anyway (as I don't think the king has authority or wish to summon Saeryn to Edoras either).

My gut feeling on this is that he would command Eodwine to take a "sick-leave" from his duties to totally recover as it sure was a serious thing and he survived against all the odds. So he would not appoint him back as an eorl at this moment but would rather ask him to help lord Athanar in any way with the Mead Hall for the time being. Then after he has fully recovered the issue would be brought up again, perhaps on some specified date given by him?

Thinking of it now, the king might actually whisper to Eodwine's ear just between the two that maybe he is going to establish a new Mead Hall the next year, or the next and might appoint Athanar there thus giving Eodwine back the hall he has founded. That would provide us years of writing (RL) with the two being there and looking how the relations between, well everyone, develop...


Well, that was just some quick thoughts on the matter. What do you think?

[Folwren]

Eodwine is not in Edoras, he is in Minas Tirith.

I am not very keen on politics at all, so I don't know what the king would say. We can do whatever people think best as to Eomer's response to the situation. It may be, Eodwine doesn't stick around in Minas Tirith long enough for word to pass from there to Edoras and back again for Eomer to order him to remain there. I rathe think Eodwine would arrive at the Meadhal without any heads-up as to the situation...unless, of course, Saeryn were permitted to go to him and then she would have told him. But, if Eodwine told Saeryn not to travel, he would not know what kind of stuff was going on.

That's my two cents, briefly thought out and briefly put. Do you suppose we could start the next day by Saturday at latest? I think I am going home tonight, so come tomorrow I'll have ample opportunity to think and write for the game. Cheers!

-- Foley

[Durelin]

Yea I wasn't sure if it was Edoras or Minas Tirith, but I kept seeing people talking about the time it would take to get from Edoras....

But wouldn't he still be expected to sort things out with the King? I mean he could certainly do what he wanted, and rush back without word getting to Edoras first, but the King would probably like to know what was going on with one of his eorls. At least something that needs to be kept in mind I think.

[Lhunardawen]

I might have to dust off some cobwebs from my Downs memory, but I think there's a "no saves" rule in the Mead Hall?

Somehow I can't imagine Eodwine being back and not being the eorl, so this is interesting to see. Or hmmmm. He could just go back to the former mead hall, drag his original folk along, kick out the innkeeper, and take over. I'm sure Eomer King wouldn't mind. Then we could have two simultaneous RPGs running.

[Nogrod]

A jump of one month is okay with me.

That would mean we're somewhere in the late autumn / early winter - depending on what kind of a year we're looking at. I'd say anyone writing the first post there could make the choice (heh, whether Eodwine rides to Scarburg in rain and wind and mud or with the first snow crystals lightly falling on the frozen ground ).

If someone has time to check the date, please do, but if no one has done it by tomorrow-evening; I'll check it.

Also, I will include in the "jump-post" a few general descriptions, like how the renovations are going, anything about the local lords, something of the general mood. Maybe some Athanar's personal thoughts as well.

But only that. Feel free to add things that have happened and are important enough to be mentioned from your character's POV.


PS. yeah Lhuna, I do think you're right about the saves, but I'll take the right into my hands in this situation to let you start writing already today...

[Folwren]

We need a time line.

Pio, could you please link this somewhere to the beginning posts? I'll research and edit it as we go on....

Here's a rough draft:

August 9 - Eodwine and Saeryn married.
Sometime in August - Saeryn conceives
Early Octoboer - Eodwine falls ill
October 9 - Eodwine becomes very ill and is moved to Edoras
October 10 - Three lords come to Scarburg and refuse to pay taxes
October 11-12 - Saeryn goes to Edoras, the king tells her he will appoint a new Eorl. Eodwine goes to Minas Tirith
November 11 - Athanar and his household come to Scarburg
November 12 - Erbrand nearly kills Scyrr. Erbrand and Lithor leave Scarburg.
November 13 - Athanar goes to the three landlords and exerts authority over them. Falco returns to Scarburg.

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[Mnemosyne]

Okay, I finally managed to mosey over to this.

Not much to say at the moment; I think Wynflaed will settle in pretty well. Let me reiterate the need for more women for her to interact with; however, as long as the King's Players (which was only supposed to last two weeks *grumble*) keeps going I am not going to be able to post very often at all.

The one other thing, I think, that needs to be said is this: no matter what Eodwine does, a lot of people at Scarburg are going to look to him for direction and are going to be ticked if he ends up saying "Athanar's in charge here, don't mind me..." because they would much rather have him as eorl. I suspect that's rather the point of all this, anyhow, but I didn't see anyone saying it explicitly.

So, if we know what we're getting into...

[Folwren]

Forgive me if there are spelling or typing errors. I wrote this post under interesting circumstances. :Confused:

Elempi, I did no write further to have them actually meet because I've run out of time and I'm not writing very well and I'd rather write that when my words are flowing more naturally than they are now. So, go ahead and have them meet, if you like.... I may be available to post in the fairly near future.

I will not say again that I am really excited, I think everyone knows that.

-- Foley

[Nogrod]

I have filled the "time jump" post.

It consists of two parts. One that handles the next two days after when we left writing and the other taking care of the renovations.

I have included little to nothing about the local lords there. I think it is better we can invoke them at any time we see calloing for some interesting outside pressure to the Mead Hall. For now on I think we have enough interesting things going on without meddling them into the pot - and also I didn't want to nail anything down on them now as to keep us free to do with them what we like later on.


And oh, Saeryn...

I'm almost willing to make a short post where someone comes in telling what she has done and let Athanar send someone after her. Though a miscarriage would be an interesting plotline to follow... But maybe she just went off secret... Crazy woman.

PS. On a second thought, let's give Legate something to do as he's back now. Lord Athanar will send Hilderinc to follow her - and thus to meet lord Eodwine. A chance to make new acquintances if ever!

[Folwren]

I left their actual meeting up to you, Eodwine, because I don't have time right now to do it. I won't be on again until late tomorrow afternoon.

EDIT: Oh, and I'd like to add and, "I'm sorry" to Hilderinc, Legate. Poor chap must be at his wit's end to see her break from a trot into a gallop like she did. Haha.

[littlemanpoet]

Um, Foley, my name is littlemanpoet aka Elempi.

Sorry, I'll try to get something up today.

[Folwren]

I posted a post that Elempi and I co-posted, kind of. It is extraordinarily short, but that's all we had time for.

Legate, you can take it now, if you're available. If you're not, then Elempi or I can get them back to the hall.

-- Foley

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Posted. I find this whole situation absolutely hilarious and lovely

[Lhunardawen]

Haha, Rowenna strikes again!

Legate, will we ever get to read about what seems to be an intriguing backstory on Hilderinc?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

Haha, Rowenna strikes again!

Legate, will we ever get to read about what seems to be an intriguing backstory on Hilderinc?

Eventually, I think, hopefully yes (it would be nice anyway, backstory loses half of its meaning if nobody ever learns anything about it ). But there is no need to push it and Hilderinc is not, hm, the most extroverted person in the world, so it may go slowly, bit by bit. But I am sort of giving it its natural way, and it seems fine this far. The opportunities to unveil parts of his backstory are coming rather nicely by themselves, it seems.

As for Rowenna, that was a bit of spontaneous action on my part (and Hilderinc's ), but I thought it would be fitting.

[Thinlómien]

Just popping in to say I'll catch up and take part in the discussion tomorrow (say 12-24h from now), and if you need Legate for something, he is back from his trip to Israel around Saturday noon (European time). In case there's something hyper urgent, ignore me/us, I/we can live with it.