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Cryptic Aura
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As with any artist, he has the right to his interpretation, but he can't go calling it Tolkien.
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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![]() I still say, when PJ stuck with the original plot, the movie was magical. Even when dialogue of one character in the book was stated by another character in the movie, it was moving. But everytime PJ strayed away with his fancies, the sequences were farcical. Think about it: 1. Arwen summoning the river to drown the Nazgul (and then looking utterly surprised when it happened). 2. Elrond whining about Arwen dying. Elrond whinig about the list of allies growing thin. Elrond whining in general. 4. Elrond riding several hundred miles to deliver a sword. 5. The warg attack, Aragorn falling off a cliff and then frenching his horse in a torrid beach scene reminiscent of Burt Lancaster and Deborah Kerr in From Here to Eternity. 6. Faramir dragging the Hobbits (and what was left of his character) to Osgiliath, just so Frodo could climb a tower to show the One Ring, the ultimate object of desire, to a flying Nazgul -- AND YET ALL THE NAZGUL AND THE ENTIRE ARMY OF MORDOR DIDN'T SURROUND THEM INSTANTANEOUSLY AND CRUSH THEM! No, the Nazgul simply flies away, Faramir has a change of heart and Sam gets to give a teary-eyed soliloquoy. 5. Nutty Denethor sets an olympic record in the mile run, while on fire. 6. Dull-witted Treebeard gets outwitted by clever Hobbits. 7. Frodo tells Sam to "Go home", even though he's a thousand miles from home, in Mordor, surrounded by thousands of Orcs. Some friend. 8. Green Scrubbing Bubbles not only destroyed Orcs, but gave the walls of Minas Tirith a streak-free shine. Look, I can see myself! I could go on and on, but I've given myself a headache. I would prefer that such shenanigans not occur in The Hobbit, but I have given up hope that (Itaril) Peter Jackson will restrain (Tauriel) himself from (Orlando Bloom) outlandish (the White Council) scripting. Bah.
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Begging the Obvious Question
From a related comment in another thread:
Which begs the question: So why introduce them?
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Haunting Spirit
Join Date: Mar 2011
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The bad, the worse, and the ugly
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Now that Peter Jackson has to make a movie ostensibly about one particular hobbit -- and a confirmed bachelor at that -- he invents yet another elf-chick character to waste precious screen time that the schizoid Smeagol-Gollum could easily employ to memorable effect. If any character deserves an expanded role in these films, then the pathetic/treacherous Smeagol-Gollum does. I mean, face it, the elves have pretty much given up on Middle-earth. They mostly just want to leave. So I say, let them. At any rate, Bilbo Baggins and Smeagool-Gollum have more to do with the fate of Middle-earth than any elf-chick afterthought possibly could. These films should make that truth abundantly clear. I have no confidence that the special snowflake Tauriel will look anything but instantly risible next to just about anyone: elf, dwarf, man, or hobbit -- ugly or otherwise.
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*One of these might be an invention on my part, however, everybody knows Legolas was thinking it at some point.
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Blossom of Dwimordene
Join Date: Oct 2010
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I think that TMT has a good point about Gollum. That's one interesting character, with plenty ways to develop it more (although in LOTR PJ simply murdered it!
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Murkwood Mary Sue -- Special Snowflake
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Murkwood Mary Sue's come backI give the elves credit for trying to write poetry, Tolkien's own favored means of literary expression. However, since I don't speak, read, or write Elvish dialects, I have to go with Bilbo Baggins as the hobbit Homer of Middle-earth. Naturally, none of this versification stuff has a chance in hell of making it into a Peter Jackson hack-and-slash action extravaganza. Now, if instead of Murkwood Mary Sue disemboweling orcs, wargs, and giant spiders, this Tauriel turned into an elegant, elvish Edna St. Vincent Millay, saying of the world's cruelty and injustice: I know.... then I could appreciate such truly feminine strength and character. Of course, Galadriel would deliver such lines with more authority than Murkwood Mary Sue, just returned from her morning kung-fu choreography training, but if this story absolutely has to have something quintessentially elvish going on in King Thranduil's household while Bilbo skulks about, unseen, looking for a way to free his dwarf companions, then I would not mind witnessing a timelessly young elvish wordsmith audibly composing trenchant verse in King Thranduil's library. I think an invisible Bilbo would find that experience both enchanting and edifying, as well. And then I woke up ...
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jan 2010
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What about this Tauriel chick? I heard she's affiliated with Thranduil and/or Legolas...
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Dec 2004
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The name Tauriel say to me The Lady of the Forest.....will she be Thranduil's wife?
Orome= Tauron= Lord of Forests/Forester. Galadriel= The Lady of the Tree. Any thoughts on this?
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Blossom of Dwimordene
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Galadh=tree. Galad=light. Riel=rig+el=garland+lady
Galadriel=Lady Crowned/Garlanded with Light. Tauriel: taur=forset -iel=daughter Tauriel=Daughter of the Forest Why the speculations about Elvish, though?
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: May 2007
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Well it's not the first time someone thought Galadriel's name was associated with trees...
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Haunting Spirit
Join Date: Mar 2011
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How does one say "wet t-shirt" in Elvish?
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In reality, though, given the transparent pandering to teeny-bopper/horny-adolescent consumer demographics, the name most likely means "actress with breasts from the television series Lost who mostly appears in tight-fitting jeans and a wet t-shirt." As for all the Tree-Worshipping stuff -- especially in Northern Europe -- I recommend Chapter IX from Sir James George Frazer's The Golden Bough (a Study in Magic and Religion): http://www.bartleby.com/196/17.html Personally, though, if I had to choose between gods in trees vs godesses in tight-fitting jeans and wet t-shirts, I'd choose, well, ...
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