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How long is this going to take?
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06-13-2011, 09:32 PM
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Beloved Shadow
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Great to have extra coverage on board, Kuru!
And as our third officially announced new player, you sir are granted a spot on the Tol In Gaurhoth squad! Blind- the tournament will move at a speed that suits the participants and writers while trying to drag as little as possible. Basically, once the tournament officially starts we writers will move it along as quickly as we possibly can while giving everyone reasonable opportunity to make trades. If there is a time period where you are without internet, you can request another participant to make necessary trades for you (such as in the playoffs when you own players that are eliminated, someone will replace them for you). (If you're simply wanting a rough idea, two years ago the first match of group play was posted 6/8 and the final was posted 7/11. Last year the first match was 4/12 and the final was 7/8. So, as you can see- very very different. We like to keep things moving, but we'll do what we have to do to make sure that everyone that wants to play is able to.)
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06-14-2011, 05:16 AM
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To Blind (and all newcomers): In practise it means that when the results of one round of games are released there will be a few days for the participants to make their trades - and then the next round games are released...
So there will be kind of deadline-days like every fourth or fith day (or something along the lines) - so you don't have to be active every day, just check the thread in every few days to see when the next deadline for trades is and how your players have fared - and take a look who to trade in for your weakest links. And like said, to those who wish for more, there will be all kinds of statistics and analysis (for getting a better grasp of the team's qualities) and interviews, background stories - and hey, yeah, Kuru's yelllow papers (for entertainment). For those who wish to delve deep into this there is also the chance of creating your own media-outlet and start contributing to either the stats & analysis or journalistic / human interest / scandal storylines...
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06-14-2011, 05:27 AM
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06-14-2011, 09:53 AM
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Beloved Shadow
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We still don't know which player will round out the Tol In Gaurhoth squad. Anyone want to step up and solve the matter?
How about another of our potential new players that hasn't posted yet- Mnemo? Pitch? Going to vote? Someone needs to break the tie. In the meantime, I shall cast a vote for- ++Urwen Tol In Gaurhoth GK DF KuruWolf DF NilpWolf DF SkipWolf MF GaladWolf MF SallyWolf MF InzilWolf MF PhantomWolf FW GwathWolf FW NerWolf FW NogWolf MormWolf (3) ShastaWolf (3) EomerWarg (3) FeaWolf (3) Wilwolf (2) Urwen (2)
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06-14-2011, 10:52 AM
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Flame of the Ainulindalë
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I've already used my five votes so I can't help, but I'd remind the next voter that it is a question of our goalkeeper, so pick carefully!
 
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06-14-2011, 10:55 AM
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It's a desparate fight! Whoever breakes the tie should watch his/her back
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06-14-2011, 01:20 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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), but I see the matter has been resolved before I got home from work today - which is just as well, as I still don't have more of a clue about football than Sam Gamgee of tight-rope walking. I'll follow the thread as best I can and maybe jut in with a comment à la Formy from the tribune now and then, but that's about the best I can promise this year. Let's see what the future brings.
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06-14-2011, 01:25 PM
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06-16-2011, 06:56 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Predictions
10 POINT QUESTIONS
Who will score the most goals in the tournament? - Turin (Doriath) Who will have the most assists in the tournament? - Hurin (Doriath) Which team will win the tournament? - Doriath 5 POINT QUESTIONS Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Ungoliant (Angband) Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Melian (Doriath) Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Glorfindel (Eregion) Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Feanor (Lothlorien) GROUP PREDICTIONS (Winner/Runner) A: Doriath / Tirion B: Wilderland / Misty Mts C: Angband / Angfauglith D: Eregion / Gondor E: Tol In Gaurhoth / Mordor F: Westernesse / Tol Eressea G: Pelori / Gondolin H: Lothlorien / Minas Tirith
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06-16-2011, 07:12 PM
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The Lynch Mob
And here's the initial Lynch Mob line-up:
GK: Huor (Angfauglith) (C) DF: Malbeth (Westernesse) DF: Celeborn (Lothlorien) DF: Erestor (Eregion) DF: Elwe (Doriath) MF: *Finrod (Tirion) MF: *Varda (Pelori) MF: *Glorfindel (Eregion) MF: *Hurin (Doriath) FW: Scatha (Wilderland) FW: Gwathwolf (Tol In Gaurhoth)
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06-16-2011, 07:23 PM
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Scion of The Faithful
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How many rounds of friendlies are there?
(The astrologers and the coin-flipper are demanding a pay raise!)
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06-17-2011, 07:26 AM
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06-17-2011, 02:09 PM
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Blossom of Dwimordene
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Some changes, for better or worse
++*Hurin (Doriath)
--Morwen ++Shadowfax(Lothlorien) --Asfaloth ++Elrohir (Eregion) --Rian GK-**Ungoliant - Angband DF-Shadowfax- Lothlorien DF-Thorondor - Gondolin DF-*Nazgul#3 - Minas Morgul DF-Beregond - Minas Tirith MF-Elrohir- Eregion MF-*Hurin- Doriath MF-*Glorfindel - Eregion (C) MF-Cirdan - Barad Dur FW-Beleg - Doriath FW-Arien - Valinor
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06-17-2011, 02:15 PM
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Flame of the Ainulindalë
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I'm afraid you're having five stars in your team Galadriel... just drop one.
Like Boro said, there will be four rounds of friendlies unless all the players who are anticipated to join are gathered and ready after the third round of friendlies. Like we saw Eomer enter just today (yay!). I hope we can kick the tournament to start around midsummer - is there a better date to start a tournament? Look forwards to some nice analysis, hot gossip and all that jazz - and produce some yourselves meanwhile!
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06-17-2011, 02:38 PM
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Blossom of Dwimordene
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Oooops...
++Osse (Tol E.) --*Nazgul3 GK-**Ungoliant - Angband DF-Shadowfax- Lothlorien DF-Thorondor - Gondolin DF-Osse - Tol Eressea DF-Beregond - Minas Tirith MF-Elrohir- Eregion MF-*Hurin- Doriath MF-*Glorfindel - Eregion (C) MF-Cirdan - Barad Dur FW-Beleg - Doriath FW-Arien - Valinor
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06-17-2011, 06:58 PM
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Shade with a Blade
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-- Huor
++ Ingwe GK: Ingwe (Valinor) DF: Malbeth (Westernesse) DF: Celeborn (Lothlorien) DF: Erestor (Eregion) DF: Elwe (Doriath) MF: *Finrod (Tirion) MF: *Varda (Pelori) MF: *Glorfindel (Eregion) MF: *Hurin (Doriath) FW: Nerdanel (Valinor) FW: Gwathwolf (Tol In Gaurhoth)
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08-04-2011, 05:41 PM
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Blossom of Dwimordene
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Making the trades and changing the structure to 4-3-3 (is that alowed?)
--Shadowfax --Legolas --Glorfindel ++*Eol ++*Ancalagon ++**Morgoth GK ShastaWolf (TIG) (C) DF **Morgoth (Angband) DF KuruWolf (TIG) DF **Melian (Doriath) DF *Namo (Pelori) MF *PhantomWolf (TIG) MF *Eol (Doriath) MF Luthien (Doriath) FW *Ancalagon (Angband) FW **Turin (Doriath) FW NerWolf (TIG) ...As well as making my predictions prettier: Angband vs Pelori Doriath vs TIG
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08-04-2011, 09:21 PM
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Shade with a Blade
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The Lynch Mob
Doriath beats TIG
Angband beats Pelori --Erestor ++Draugluin --*Glorfindel ++*Varda --Elros ++*Ancalagon GK: **Huan (Doriath) DF: Kuruwolf (TIG) DF: Draugluin (Angband) DF: Malbeth (Westernesse) DF: *Beren (Doriath) MF: *Varda (Pelori) MF: *Hurin (Doriath) MF: *Phantomwolf (TIG) FW: *Ancalagon (Angband) FW: **Turin (Doriath) (C) FW: *Nogwolf (TIG)
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08-05-2011, 10:27 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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-- GK- **Ungoliant--Angband
-- DF- Nienna--Pelori -- MF- Earwen--Tol Eressea ++ GK- ShastaWolf--Tol In Gaurhoth ++ DF- **Melian--Doriath ++ MF- *PhantomWolf--Tol In Gaurhoth ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GK- ShastaWolf--Tol In Gaurhoth DF- Draugluin--Angband DF- **Morgoth--Angband DF- *SkipWolf--Tol In Gaurhoth DF- **Melian--Doriath MF- *Varda--Pelori MF- Mablung--Doriath MF- Luthien--Doriath MF- *PhantomWolf--Tol In Gaurhoth (C) FW- *Nogwolf--Tol In Gaurhoth FW- **Turin--Doriath TIG over Doriath Angband over Pelori
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08-06-2011, 02:03 AM
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Werewolf Psychic
Join Date: Apr 2007
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I am aware. Will make trades as I can.
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06-17-2011, 06:20 AM
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
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Haven't been on the Downs in weeks and nearly missed this - but I'm in! My record in this tournament is rather poor so looking to step up this year.
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06-17-2011, 06:46 AM
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Scion of The Faithful
Join Date: Apr 2003
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*glomps*
Eomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer~
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06-21-2011, 05:22 AM
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Scion of The Faithful
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Me change:
--Huor [Anfauglith]
++Orodreth [Tirion] -- Shadowfax [Lothlórien] ++Draugluin [Angband] -- Carcaroth [Doriath] ++Oropher [Wilderland] -- *Glorfindel [Eregion] ++ *Hûrin [Doriath] -- Ulfang [Angband] ++ Balrog #3 [Angband] -- Gimli [Lothlórien] ++ Saruman [Misty Mts] Now it's: GK Orodreth [Tirion] DF Asfaloth [Eregion] DF Draugluin [Angband] DF **Fingolfin [Anfauglith] (C) DF Oropher [Wilderland] MF *Tar-Míriel [Númenor] MF *Hûrin [Doriath] MF Balrog #3 [Angband] MF Lúthien [Doriath] MF Saruman [Misty Mts] FW Tevildo [Angband] EDIT: Changed formatting - the old one confused even myself. I'm supposed to post an ArdaCup.com Stats Report article to point out certain stats (like best goalkeepers/best team defence and yellow cards, among others) but it's still too cumbersome and I can't be spending all day in front of a spreadsheet.
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06-25-2011, 06:39 PM
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Shade with a Blade
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Lynch Mob
--Huor
--Celeborn --Elwe --Finrod --Glorfindel --Nerdanel ++Ingwe ++Drauglin ++Gwaihir ++Khamul ++Maeglin ++Curufin GK: Ingwe (Valinor) DF: Drauglin (Angband) DF: Erestor (Eregion) DF: Malbeth (Westernesse) DF: Gwaihir (Pelori) MF: *Hurin (Doriath) MF: *Varda (Pelori) MF: Khamul (Wilderland) FW: Gwathwolf (TIG) FW: *Maeglin (Angfauglith) FW: Curufin (Hithlum)
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06-25-2011, 06:48 PM
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Beloved Shadow
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For anyone wishing to earn double points from one of their players, please remember to designate your team captain with-> (C). For example, look two posts up at Nog's team (he has assigned his GK Tar Atanamir as his captain).
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06-25-2011, 09:28 PM
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Werewolf Psychic
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Oh, are we allowed three players from one team? I thought we were limited to two at the start.
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 GK – Grimbeorn (Wilderland) DF – *Balrog #2 (Angband) DF – Shadowfax (Lothlorien) DF – *Beren (Doriath) DF – Nazgul #4 (Mordor) MF – Grishnakh (Mordor) MF – Skinbark (The Forest) MF – *Finrod (Tirion) FW – Smaug (Wilderland) FW – GwathWolf (T-I-G) (C) <--- FW – *Bombadil (The Forest)
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06-26-2011, 02:58 AM
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The Lynch Mob
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Malbeth Varda Curufin ++ Tar Telperien Saruman Ar Pharazon GK: Ingwe (Valinor) DF: Drauglin (Angband) DF: Erestor (Eregion) DF: **Tar Telperien (Westernesse) DF: Gwaihir (Pelori) MF: *Hurin (Doriath) MF: Saruman (Misty Mts) MF: Khamul (Wilderland) FW: Gwathwolf (TIG) FW: *Maeglin (Angfauglith) FW: Ar Pharazon (Westernesse) (C)
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Shade with a Blade
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Revised predictions:
10 POINT QUESTIONS
Who will score the most goals in the tournament? - Turin (Doriath) Who will have the most assists in the tournament? - Hurin (Doriath) Which team will win the tournament? - Doriath 5 POINT QUESTIONS Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Ungoliant (Angband) Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Tar Telperien (Westernesse) Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Hurin (Doriath) Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Turin (Doriath) GROUP PREDICTIONS (Winner/Runner) A: Doriath / Tirion B: Wilderland / Misty Mts C: Angband / Angfauglith D: Eregion / Gondor E: Tol In Gaurhoth / Mordor F: Westernesse / Numenor G: Pelori / Valinor H: Lothlorien / Minas Morgul
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Arithmetic done wrong is *not* pretty.
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Oops
I apologize for my sudden and unexplained vanishing. My computer got a virus at the beginning of this week and its been no small feat putting the pieces back together.
I will be posting my picks shortly. If nobody posts between now and then I will just append it to this post.
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Unnamed Horror
--Beregond ++Nilpwolf (TIG) GK-**Ungoliant (Angband) DF-Shadowfax (Lothlorien) DF-Thorondor (Gondolin) DF-Osse (Tol Eressea) DF-Nilpwolf (TIG) MF-Elrohir (Eregion) MF-*Hurin (Doriath) MF-*Glorfindel (Eregion) MF-Cirdan (Barad Dur) FW-Beleg (Doriath) (C) FW-Arien (Valinor)
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Regal Dwarven Shade
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Kuru's Scrubs
I have hired an infinite number of monkeys with dartboards to advise me on all my picks, aided and abetted by my very own sense of randomness, to see if I come in utterly last or if blind luck will conquer all.
GK – Grimbeorn (Wilderland) DF – *Balrog #2 (Angband) DF – Shadowfax (Lothlorien) DF – *Beren (Doriath) DF – Nazgul #4 (Mordor) MF – Grishnakh (Mordor) MF – Skinbark (The Forest) MF – *Finrod (Tirion) FW – Smaug (Wilderland) FW – GwathWolf (T-I-G) FW – *Bombadil (The Forest) As it turned out the monkeys seemed to have a serious thing going for just a few rather odd teams…well…ok, one of them isn’t quite as odd… Who will score the most goals in the tournament? Turin (Doriath) Who will have the most assists in the tournament? Hurin (Doriath) (I mean, honestly for consistency’s sake I have to pick him...oh wait...that's not what I'm trying to do here...) Which team will win the tournament? Wilderland (I would pick Doriath…but they are heavy favorites so there is no way they will actually pull it off) Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Huan (Doriath) Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Morgoth (Angband) Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Finrod (Tirion) This is my official *serious* sleeper pick. Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Bombadil (The Forest) This is my official dangling out at the end of the limb pick. Group A 1. Doriath 2. Shire-Bree United (I’m sticking to my guns on my Bombadil pick) Group B 1. Wilderland 2. Misty Mountains Group C 1. Anfaughlith 2. Angband Group D 1. Eregion 2. Gondor Group E 1. The Forest 2. Tol-In-Gaurhoth Group F 1. Westernesse 2. Tol-Eressëa Group G 1. Pelori 2. Valinor Group H 1. Minas Morgul 2. Lothlorien (just to be different since everyone else seems to have these in reverse order) There…those could be the seeds of a stunning victory or a humiliating defeat right there. (I’d take money that it’s the latter…) Quote:
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Wisest of the Noldor
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GK *Manwë (Pelori) DF Rochallor (Angfauglith) DF Elendil (Westernesse) DF Caranthir (Tirion) DF *Beren (Doriath) MF Saruman (Misty Mts) MF Khamûl (Wilderland) MF *Húrin (Doriath) FW Smaug (Wilderland) FW Eldacar (Gondor) FW *Maeglin (Angfauglith) (C)
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