WW LXXXVIII: What Lies in the Dark (Game Thread)

[Nogrod]

Boro?

You make me really nervous with your answer!

I thought your reaction to tp would have been, "yay, great, so we're on the same wavelength!" but you go on defending yourself against a non-existant "Boro is Shelob" -theory? Or did I miss something of importance?

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Ok, so we know no one was stung last night, but the person who was bitten from the start, did they get saved by Sam or have they been completely turned, I'm still super confused about that. (Moddess?? have you already said something about this and I just missed it, or are you not going to tell us?) I know from the admin thread that the way it worked was that Shelob sent Cupcake a list of a few she would like on her side, and the Moddess picked one randomly, and that's who was bitten from the start, and who Sam had a chance to save yesterDay.

That I doubt we will know as it would fall under Sam's and the absolute *no reveal* stuff. I would imagine Sam knows, and since Sam is not under any threat from Shelob, can be as aggressive as Sam desires in leaving the clear path to his actions (without directly saying "Hey I'm Sam and I cured this person!")

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Boro?

You make me really nervous with your answer!

I thought your reaction to tp would have been, "yay, great, so we're on the same wavelength!" but you go on defending yourself against a non-existant "Boro is Shelob" -theory? Or did I miss something of importance?

Phantom's post at the top of page 6. It's not much, but then later he asks for others opinions on his theories about me being stung or Shelob.

[Nogrod]

wilwa: I don't think anyone wishes to lynch Lhuna toDay as we have more or less good ideas that Sam probably would have tried to heal her last Night - thus making her innocent toDay even if stinged.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Boro is probably evil.

Maybe I'll vote for him, just for fun.

[Lhunardawen]

For now I feel comfortable about Zil.

I'm uneasy about Lottie but she won't be getting my vote toDay.

I want to figure out Boro so I won't vote for him, either.

wilwa seems to be playing safely. Not good.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Boro is probably evil.

Maybe I'll vote for him, just for fun.

Weak. We both know the only reason you are making that choise is because

You. Me. Handuffs. It always ends that way.

[the phantom]

All right, so, information important to which way I will be inclined to vote today.

In looking back I think I should've placed Bom on the potential Shelob list, but I consider him one of the least likely of the ones I can't rule out yet. So yeah, not voting for him.

And as you know not voting for Phantom, Wilwa, or Lottie.

Nog and Shasta- they haven't done anything to make me want to vote for them, so they're unlikely at this stage.

Fea is not Shelob, and is almost certainly not a Spiderling (but techinically can't cross her off yet). I'm not voting for her.

Nerwen is a possible compromise for me, primarily because I can't rule her out and she voted for me. Not strong reasoning at all, but there it is. I'd vote for her to save someone I like, but I wouldn't form a bandwagon against her.

Lhuna cannot be a Spiderling, but may be Shelob, and I'd really like to do my thorough cross-examination of her tomorrow, so I'd prefer to give her a pass for one more day. Like I said before, I'd rather take out Shelob Day 3 than Day 2.

Boro is looking... bleh... by simple elimination he appears to be the best candidate, as well as the possible suspicious behaviors I pointed to.

[the phantom]

What? Why the Lottie vote? Given the dynamics I created and the failure to sting last night she's about the least likely evil-doer here.

Evidently you didn't read enough of those threads to have a Phantogasm, Bom.

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Lhuna cannot be a Spiderling, but may be Shelob, and I'd really like to do my thorough cross-examination of her tomorrow, so I'd prefer to give her a pass for one more day.

Can't wait.


++Bom Tombadillo

Still my best Shelob guess at this point.

[Loslote]

++Zil

I don't want to cut it too close, and he's the one person whose guilt I'm closest to being sure of.

[Inziladun]

Hmm. Let's see. Who do I not want to go for?

I guess tp gets a pass, though I still don't trust him totally.

Wilwa seems fairly sensible and innocent, though I tend to have hard time reading her.

Lottie, for now anyway.

I could possibly go for Boro again, since I'm not sure about Nog, and knowing something about Boro could help in that. Also, Boro himself is supported by Lottie, and I could possibly get a better idea about her too.

Then again, Bom's vote looked pretty easy, as Lottie isn't exactly at high risk for a lynch at the moment. He said in his vote-post that she, Wilwa, and tp were "making him suspicious". In the same post , he discounted Wilwa because she "hasn't done anything interesting yet". Yet, here he said Wilwa was suspicious because of her involvement in the Glirdy-wagon. No explanation from one to the other why Wilwa was no longer a consideration, and Lottie still was.

To think....

x/d with all since # 232

[Nogrod]

Finland won and went to the play-offs...

And a slight comment on my last one. I think Lhuna and Lottie are not spiderlings.

And I would add that I think Fea is not Shelob (as said before).


So who then?

[the phantom]

Psh.... Fea just swooped in and stated Boro was probably evil and expressed an interest in voting for him, but then voted for me despite promising earlier today that she wouldn't.

Only problem is, it actually weakens my Boro argument slightly, as when she made her second to last post I was wondering if perhaps she was the Healer and was hinting she had examined Boro and discovered he had been stung.

But now that it appears that it wasn't the case (obviously, otherwise she would've voted him), I see nothing wrong with voting for her instead on grounds that she's given us almost nothing to this point other than randomness. So add her to my list of compromise candidates.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And a slight comment on my last one. I think Lhuna and Lottie are not spiderlings.

I agree with you about Lottie. Not Lhuna though, so if having to decide between them I'd vote Lhuna.

This would leave Inzil and Bom as other possiblities it seems. After the vote I need more time on Bom. So, I'd prefer Inzil there, but still not willing to pass off on Lhuna and make another shot in the dark...

++Lhuna

[Bom Tombadillo]

I haven't had a chance to read any of them yet, tp.

Lhuna - as I have said, when I first came out of the gate I was sort of using the phantom as a crutch. I'm making an effort to stop that, both to save my neck (and his, to an extent; though he's made me suspicious, the very reason I'm voting Lottie and not him is because, as I've said, he could be a major asset if innocent.) and because of my suspicions of him.

[Nogrod]

Nerwen-> tp
Bom -> Lottie
Lhuna -> Bom
Lottie -> Zil
Fea -> tp 2

So?

I might be inclined towards Bom as s7he has been mostly careful not to suspec t too many people or to be too open with her/his thoughts about people, but also on his (her) suspicions on me have been basically forged or untrue. That is more like a mark of a spiderling than of Shelob, but we'd do good to get rid of one spiderling as well.

Also I'm a bit weary about Shasta for the same reason (although I could think of him as Shelob as well), but as he has been soo quiet it's hard to say anything definitive about him. A question: who would like to be playing in a subdued mode as to make people make their decisions this way when they weigh a few candidates ("yeah, I don't really have such a feel on him as he has posted so little / left so little mark of him"). Perfect Shelobbery...

Humm...

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

If Sam had stopped the original spiderling from changing all the way, doesn't that mean someone else would have been stung last Night?

No. I don't think people are understanding how this worked.

Night 1 someone on a list of people (handed in by Shelob) was chosen to be stung.

Day 1 Sam had an oppurtunity to heal that person.

Night 2 if Sam had been unsuccessful that person would have turned completely, if he had been successful then that person would have been returned to being just an innocent. That Night Sam also got another choice to protect another person from being stung. He was either successful, or he was the one who was stung (I'm pretty sure it's the second one).

Since Sally hasn't said anything about a Spawn existing, I think Sam was successful in his choice on Day 1, and by the way Boro is talking I think he is that person. I know that if I was Sam, Boro would have been an option for me on who to try and heal Day 1, cause a lot of people probably would have put him on their list to be on their team if they were Shelob. So I think Sam healed him Day 1, and then Night 2 Shelob chose Sam and was unsuccessful, which would mean we still only have Shelob. But I'm not really sure about the whole Boro thing, since Sally hasn't really clarified whether Shelob has a spawn or not.

[Nogrod]

Oh my, Boro. I could parrott Lottie in a way as having an idea on what you were doing overall.

But I refer to tp's latest

Originally Posted by tp

I'm not sure why you had to go and say it, but yes, since you said it- ding ding ding. Bingo.

(And btw, I'm 99% certain it worked.)

So you said tp was trying to suggest Shelob picking certain people making them know to all & thus making the jobs of Sam & the Doc easier. tp answers that Bingo, that's what I was doing... (only being slightly annoyed you said it out aloud)

And then your reaction is to start to defend ypourseöf against a theory of you being Shelob? I don't understand... and I thought I had an idea of you as an innocent doing a thing...

(Finland got 2-1 lead against the Slovakian surperstars... I might be watching something of the rest of the game )

[Nogrod]

Let's make it better toDay than yesterDay and make our ideas known before the last minutes.

Everyone coming in at this hour and only saying I'll vote for X should be really looked after with a magnifying-glass toMorrow.

I think Lhuna is innocent toDay.

I think Lottie would have been a too risky choice from Shelob.

I think tp has a good thing going.

I'm torn with Boro as I thought he had a good thing going on but am not so sure any more. It would help me to decide if you Boro told us why you reacted to that last post of tp in that defencive way as it should have been an offering of a hand to you?


Last minutes of the ice hockey game going on... Finland still leads... back soon.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I'm torn with Boro as I thought he had a good thing going on but am not so sure any more. It would help me to decide if you Boro told us why you reacted to that last post of tp in that defencive way as it should have been an offering of a hand to you?

Fairy nuff. Phantom gets frustrated when his plots are suddenly revealed and usually believes anyone who tries to foil them by making them known has to be evil. I took the "I'm not sure why you had to say it" as a suspicion, or in the very least a sarcastically frustrated tp, not a helping hand.

Still. If he gets me lynched simply because of a process of elimination, when he's continuing to dangle the more suspicious Lhuna out, that will lie on him.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

++the phantom

Love you tons, sweetums.

[Bom Tombadillo]

I'm confused . . . *sigh* Anyway, tp, wilwa, and Lottie are making me suspicious, as I said earlier, and my suspicions of usin' mah Noggin and Double-O-88 have decreased some; hearing little from Lhuna is also fascinating me, but for now I want to test my theory about the dynamic trio by voting

++Loslote

'cause wilwa hasn't done anything interesting yet and phanty is a valuable asset if innocent.

EDIT: Irony-ninja'd by the very person I commented on not being active toDay (and Boro. James Boro.)