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Eomer of the Rohirrim · 05-06-2011, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Renzolicious

Also, after watching the entire extended edition yesterday, the music is incredibly dull.

This is maybe the first time I've heard a Tolkien fan say this! Can I ask, do you generally enjoy classical music?

Galadriel55 · 05-06-2011, 05:14 AM

Music is #1 on my short list of the good things in the movie. It's amazing.

Andsigil · 05-06-2011, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Music is #1 on my short list of the good things in the movie. It's amazing.

Any idea if Howard Shore is composing the score for "The Hobbit"?

oddkins · 05-06-2011, 10:53 AM

1. Frodo going to Osgiliath & the (mis) treatment of Faramir's character in the movie
2. Bringing Army of the Dead to Minas Tirith
3. Absence of palantir to explain Denethor's behaviour & his ridiculous death scene
4. Whole Aragorn is dead - oh no he isn't, unnecessary scenario
5. "Go home, Sam" travesty....

Estelyn Telcontar · 05-06-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Andsigil

Any idea if Howard Shore is composing the score for "The Hobbit"?

Yes, he is.

Mithalwen · 05-06-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

This is maybe the first time I've heard a Tolkien fan say this! Can I ask, do you generally enjoy classical music?

I generally enjoy classical music and I'm not rapt with the music. Especially hated the lothlorien elves wailing. I think it is ok in the cinema but in a smaller scale setting it lacks
subtlety.

Galadriel55 · 05-06-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I generally enjoy classical music and I'm not rapt with the music. Especially hated the lothlorien elves wailing. I think it is ok in the cinema but in a smaller scale setting it lacks subtlety.

I have to agree with you here. The Elves' theme wasn't done very well. But most other themes were. They repeat throughout, so when I watch the movies I start associating them with certain things. My favourite is what I mentally call the "history theme" that is played in the very beginning of FOTR.

Overall, though, I think the music is great. One of the few things that is. Also It's better than the music of many other movies that I've seen. It's solid, and some themes (not the Lorien one) are done very well.

Mithalwen · 05-06-2011, 03:45 PM

I don't know..I do like a lot of film music.. it is just whenever I catch bits of the films on tv... it is as if - like with the script - they have assumed an audience iq just slightly above that of a house plant and that they have to sledge hammer everything in. I know music should enhance the visual but it is more like having audio description on, I know the Shire is a rural idyll without a twee little theme and I don't need a fanfare to understand that the mountain scenery is majestic.

I did think the visuals - costumes, props, sets were very good with minor exceptions (why did the Rohirrim have such tatty cloaks?)

Galadriel55 · 05-06-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I don't know..I do like a lot of film music.. it is just whenever I catch bits of the films on tv... it is as if - like with the script - they have assumed an audience iq just slightly above that of a house plant and that they have to sledge hammer everything in. I know music should enhance the visual but it is more like having audio description on, I know the Shire is a rural idyll without a twee little theme and I don't need a fanfare to understand that the mountain scenery is majestic.

I get what you're saying, but for me it's more than that. I guess we just have to leave it at that and agree to disagree.

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I did think the visuals - costumes, props, sets were very good with minor exceptions (why did the Rohirrim have such tatty cloaks?)

The scenery was beautiful, that's for sure. I like the costumes too. Since I'm nitpicky, I always point out that the hair colour is wrong for some characters. But that's really just me being prejudiced against PJ.

And it's noting compared to the more major stuff that he put in the movie.

Pitchwife · 05-06-2011, 04:14 PM

Will it surprise anybody that I like Leonard Rosenman's music for the old Bakshi film a lot better? Howard Shore has a talent for grand, catchy themes (which are his main strength in my opinion), but in terms of musical imagination and (to the very limited extent that I feel competent to judge that) structure, I don't think he can hold a candle to Rosenman.

sassyfriend · 09-29-2011, 03:07 PM

My pet peeves

1. Aragorn didn't cry for Gandalf like he did in the books

2. Legolas didn't sing at all

3. Whiny Frodo

4. Haldir got killed

5. No twins at all whats up with that?!

05-06-2011, 05:14 AM	#2
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,515	Music is #1 on my short list of the good things in the movie. It's amazing. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

05-06-2011, 10:53 AM	#4
oddkins Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 16	1. Frodo going to Osgiliath & the (mis) treatment of Faramir's character in the movie 2. Bringing Army of the Dead to Minas Tirith 3. Absence of palantir to explain Denethor's behaviour & his ridiculous death scene 4. Whole Aragorn is dead - oh no he isn't, unnecessary scenario 5. "Go home, Sam" travesty.... __________________ Sometimes in heaven a fable is born..nobody knows where it comes from; it gives us strength and it tells us of love, and everyone of us is touched in their hearts...

05-06-2011, 03:45 PM	#8
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I don't know..I do like a lot of film music.. it is just whenever I catch bits of the films on tv... it is as if - like with the script - they have assumed an audience iq just slightly above that of a house plant and that they have to sledge hammer everything in. I know music should enhance the visual but it is more like having audio description on, I know the Shire is a rural idyll without a twee little theme and I don't need a fanfare to understand that the mountain scenery is majestic. I did think the visuals - costumes, props, sets were very good with minor exceptions (why did the Rohirrim have such tatty cloaks?) __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-06-2011, 04:14 PM	#10
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Will it surprise anybody that I like Leonard Rosenman's music for the old Bakshi film a lot better? Howard Shore has a talent for grand, catchy themes (which are his main strength in my opinion), but in terms of musical imagination and (to the very limited extent that I feel competent to judge that) structure, I don't think he can hold a candle to Rosenman. __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

09-29-2011, 03:07 PM	#11
sassyfriend Wight Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 165	My pet peeves 1. Aragorn didn't cry for Gandalf like he did in the books 2. Legolas didn't sing at all 3. Whiny Frodo 4. Haldir got killed 5. No twins at all whats up with that?!