WW LXXXVIII: What Lies in the Dark (Game Thread)

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Loslote

The game is over if we lynch Shelob, yes. But it's also over if the Spiders outnumber the Innocents. Lynching the Spiderlings would buy us more time. If we don't know who Shelob is, I'd be more comfortable lynching someone who looks like a Spiderling than taking a shot in the dark, hoping to find Shelob.

Start of today we have Shelob and a spiderling, yes?

Because I also recall our dear modSally saying if we lynch Shelob early enough, than the spiderling will become the new Shelob anyway.

I'm not sure there would be a way to differentiate between spiderling and Shelob either. Also, spiderlings won't know eachother, they will only be in communication with Shelob.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Loslote

The game is over if we lynch Shelob, yes. But it's also over if the Spiders outnumber the Innocents. Lynching the Spiderlings would buy us more time. If we don't know who Shelob is, I'd be more comfortable lynching someone who looks like a Spiderling than taking a shot in the dark, hoping to find Shelob.

I think this is sensible. But no songs, Lottie? I'm inclined to be suspicious.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Fact - Phantom is a ladykiller.

Fact - there are more than two females playing.

Fact - it is dark and spooky.

Correlation - Phantom will want to hold all the girls' hands (see Fact 3).

Fact - humans have two hands.

Fact - spiders have X arms, where X is 8 minus the number of legs any cruel schoolchildren have pulled off of them.

Assumption - Shelob eats schoolchildren.

Correlation - Shelob will have X legs, where X > 2 (and is most likely 8).

Fact - a human being with 2 hands can not hold the hands of X females, where X > 2.


Therefore, Phantom is Shelob. Game over.

Makes perfect sense to me! Get the fiend!

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Because I also recall our dear modSally saying if we lynch Shelob early enough, than the spiderling will become the new Shelob anyway.

Our odds of getting Schlob today are pretty slim, but that's a good point.

I have no idea at all who I might vote for at this time. I'm hoping our current four non-appearers will show up soon. Looking at you, Nog! Submarine!

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I'm hoping our current four non-appearers will show up soon. Looking at you, Nog! Submarine!

Fair enough.

I actually do hate the games where people change from goodies to baddies as it makes any decent and / or consistent analysis more or less impossible. Also having only one "real baddie" seems like a challenge. I think wilwa has a good point in suggesting we look for those who defend someone without especially defending each other. But then again - and that being said - Shelob may wish to give her minions different orders as to avoid that kind of attention. Although that is something we probably should consider seriously on D3 or 4 the earliest.

But my two cents at this point would be that Shelob would probably like to avoid attention in the first place (yeah, everyone plays by their own style but still). Ergo, I would be less interested in people who give rise to controversies than those who seem like especially trying to avoid them. At least to begin with.

Okay. I have to go now but I should be able to give this a more decent go a bit later toDay.

Sally: where was the pizza?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Sally: where was the pizza?

More importantly, where were the d20s?



In case anyone's interested, I totally selected roles by rolling a d12 for everyone.

[wilwarin538]

Sally, that video just made my life. ^_^

I need to leave in about an hour, so that's when I'll be voting. And not much else has been happening and I don't know what else to say....

So I'll be back to vote and everything, and I have no idea who that vote will be for.

[satansaloser2005]

laurab2333 shivered in the corner. She couldn't make out any of the faces, which didn't really matter because she didn't know any of them anyway.

"No one's even talking to me," she huffed, curling her arms around herself tighter. She didn't realize that, had she actually said something first, they might have.

Unfortunately, it was too late for her.

"Who's there?" she whispered, turning around in the dark as she heard a rock shift. "Hello?"

"Gimme a hand, will ya?" a harsh voice replied.

laurab2333 felt blindly in front of her until her hands rested against some rocks. She couldn't tell if it was the cave wall or if there was a small passage that the group hadn't previously noticed, but she couldn't be bothered to mention it to the rest, instead scratching at the rocks until she felt something warm and soft.

"Actually," the voice said slowly, "I probably need both hands."

laurab2333 hesitantly reached out and placed her other hand on the rocks as well. Before she could react, she was tugged sharply into the rocks.

"Help!" she shouted, but everyone was so used to her being silent that they didn't notice.

"I'm taking your place," the voice informed her, then paused. "Newbie."

laurab2333 screamed as she was pulled through the rocks, the echo of her voice quickly fading as another body slithered through the small opening.

"Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Fea!"

laurab2333 did not re-emerge. Whether she somehow escaped or was frightened to death is anyone's guess.






The Playing:
Nienna
Lottie
Dun
Nog
Bom Tombadillo
Wilwa
Nerwen
Glirdan
Boro
Lhuna
Phantom
Shasta
Fea


The Played:
laurab2333





Note: laurab2333 is a RL friend who had wanted to try her hand at WW, but due to a sudden case of RL duties isn't actually able to play. Fea, however, is, now that her THESIS OF DOOM is finished. laurab2333's role, if she had one, has now been taken over by Fea.

[Bom Tombadillo]

Everahbody seems to be after the phantom. Even disregarding my inherent tendency to defend our shadowy overlord, this seems to be excessive. He's acting his usual self as far as I can tell, so that leaves me with the question of whether this is a justified attack based on evidence that everybody but me can see, or a cunningly initiated bandwagon.

Still, I agree with the resident Lhunatic: There doesn't seem to be much to go on. Thus, this may just be an apparent "safe lynch," given that phantom has already stated that he's likely to be out of the game before long.

OR it could just be me overreacting to joking accusations. After all, the only actual vote slung so far is for Glirdan.

En-ny-way, I'll be back in about an hour to vote, as the next time I can get on will be past deadline.

[Lhunardawen]

The best thing we could hope - dream - to find toDay is Shelob defending/protecting whoever she stung. I say best, but really mean unlikely. So for toDay we're all just really groping around in the dark, literally and figuratively.

I can't help wondering, though, if in the later Days Shelob will be more or less likely to sacrifice her little spiders, knowing there's always a chance to spawn a new one the next Day, as opposed to werecreatures which are fixed in number for the entire game. Would there be a point to that?

[satansaloser2005]

Current vote count is as follows.



Muffin-->Pie
Lhunatic-->Pop
Dramatic Sound Effects-->My Sweet Prince
Stealth Yellowboots-->Lhunatic



I'll count Bom's vote because he sounded like he was popping off, ne'er to return.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But my two cents at this point would be that Shelob would probably like to avoid attention in the first place (yeah, everyone plays by their own style but still). Ergo, I would be less interested in people who give rise to controversies than those who seem like especially trying to avoid them. At least to begin with.

Is it... can it be...? It is! The obligatory loud-quiet debate!

Well, then– may I point out that for all we know we may have a phantlob. Do you imagine such a beast would want to avoid controversy? I think not.

X'd with Wilwa.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Is it... can it be...? It is! The obligatory loud-quiet debate!

Well, then– may I point out that for all we know we may have a phantlob. Do you imagine such a beast would want to avoid controversy? I think not.

X'd with Wilwa.

DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO?!?!?!?!



Back shortly with a surprise. Surprise?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO?!?!?!?!

All right, all right, I'll watch it! Don't yell at me!

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

All right, all right, I'll watch it! Don't yell at me!

There's a good minion. <3

*snuggles you*

[Lhunardawen]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, then– may I point out that for all we know we may have a phantlob. Do you imagine such a beast would want to avoid controversy? I think not.

This is the wisest thing that has been said all Day - not that much has been said.

*sigh*

There's not really much to go on at this point, is there? I've never felt so useless.

[Nerwen]

All right, O Moddess, I have watched the video. Is there to be a quiz?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

All right, O Moddess, I have watched the video. Is there to be a quiz?

Quite possibly.


Nah, not really.

[wilwarin538]

I'm here, and will be here randomly for about the next 3 hours, and then that's it. Today wasn't the best day for me for us to start (yesterday would have been better), but oh well. Day 2 will be far better I think. (I have 3 jobs, I'm a busy girl, but I couldn't pass up this game and desperately needed WW time).

Alright so as it stands right now we have the Evil Spider Lady and she's stung someone (who knows they've been stung) and Sammy has a chance to save them today, if he fails then that person is a spawn by the end of the Night. And if we get lucky enough to lynch Shelob today then this person will become the new Shelob. If we lynch the person who is currently stung we can be half happy, partly happy because they were almost a baddie, partly sad because they were technically not yet a baddie. Lynching anyone else would be bad.

It's really different having only 1 person we want to kill, because we can't really look at how people interact with each other (atleast not on day 1 when she's still alone). Atleast when there's 3 wolves we might be able to spot them because they seem too chummy with each other, but in this case Shelob can way more easily blend in.

I think in the long run the best way to get her will be to see who some people are defending (but those people aren't necessarily defending each other). What I mean is that if A, B and C are all defending D, but A, B and C aren't really paying attention to each other, than D could be Shelob and A, B and C could be spawn. They want to be sure she stays alive, but they also want to keep themselves alive, and they'll actually probably be trying to spot each other to make sure the other spawn survive as well, since there needs to be a lot of them for them to win.

Now if Shelob attacks Sam nothing happens (are we told when this happens? and are we informed each time Sam is successful or each time a new spawn is created? I would assume so), so basically Shelob will now know who Sam is and will try to get him lynched (or she'll get her spawn to try to get him lynched). But then if we lynch Sam and realise who he is, I would say we go after whoever originally wanted him to be lynched, especially if we've recently been informed that no one was successfully bitten recently.

Wow, this game is confusing (but awesome). Anyway, I need to go for a bit, I'll be back very soon, and will have to vote quite early. (it will probably be random)

x'ed with Inzil