Using the one ring to defeat Sauron?

[Tom-fool of a took]

Thanks for the response Inziladun.

Guess that blows my theory out of the water!

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Tolkien discussed that scenario in Letter # 266. If someone claimed the Ring openly, Sauron himself would attempt to physically wrest it from the claimant, at some point. If the claimant had sufficient strength to keep in Sauron's despite?

Letters-#266

Ah this possibly answers another query that I had.

Going of this, I'm assuming that Sauron became aware of Frodo when he was in the Crack of Doom because he laid a claim to the ring?

I initally assumed it was because, as Sam hypothesises in the book, Sauron would be aware if anyone wore the One in Mordor.

[Galadriel55]

He's aware if you put on the Ring anywhere. Remember how he searched for Frodo at Amon Hen?

I think on Mt. Doom it was the combination of putting on and claiming the Ring.

[blantyr]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

He's aware if you put on the Ring anywhere. Remember how he searched for Frodo at Amon Hen?

I think on Mt. Doom it was the combination of putting on and claiming the Ring.

Agree on Mt. Doom.

I'd disagree about Amon Hen. I believe when Saruman and Denathor used palantír to gaze on the dark tower, Sauron became aware of their gaze and was able to engage them in contests of will. Amon Hen, the Hill of Sight, might in some way also be a place of seeing. While Aragorn saw nothing special when he sat upon the seat just after Frodo, when wearing the Ring Frodo was able to see quite a lot. Sauron only began searching for Frodo, though, after Frodo looked at the Dark Tower.

Both Bilbo and Frodo put on the ring on occasion in the Shire without giving away the ring's location. I'd just suggest that Amon Hen and the Crack of Doom are poor places to put it on.
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[Galadriel55]

I have to respectfully disagree in my turn. Sauron didn't notice the Ring as much in The Shire because it was so far away. The closer it gets, the more connection he has to it (I sound like I'm talking about cellphones ). The Witch-King could feel it's presence in Imlad Morgul, just because it was there. If Frodo would put on the Ring, the Nazgul would discover him. Imagine what Sauron would be able to detect if he was in the Witch-king's place!

[blantyr]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I have to respectfully disagree in my turn. Sauron didn't notice the Ring as much in The Shire because it was so far away. The closer it gets, the more connection he has to it (I sound like I'm talking about cellphones ). The Witch-King could feel it's presence in Imlad Morgul, just because it was there. If Frodo would put on the Ring, the Nazgul would discover him. Imagine what Sauron would be able to detect if he was in the Witch-king's place!

Well, you seem to have backed off the original position that Sauron could sense the ring if it were put on "anywhere"... though some might claim that the Shire doesn't count as 'anywhere.'

I'd agree range is important. The power of the sensor (Sauron being more sensitive than the witch king) is important. Whether the ring is being worn or not is definitely important.

I just think looking at the Dark Tower with enchanted vision might also tend to make Sauron aware of the gaze. Can't prove it. It just seems to make sense given the descriptions of the three times people looked at the Dark Tower with enchanted vision.