Riddles in the Downs - Page 35 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Urwen · 01-19-2011, 06:48 AM

I'll take the shot with Weathertop?

Ironfoot · 01-19-2011, 11:24 AM

Getting a bit warmer now...

Urwen · 01-19-2011, 12:25 PM

Now you hooked me on... I won't rest till I catch the answer....

So: Perhaps Elostirion, whose 'brother' is Tower of Meneltarma, the only remaining part of Atalante... or Grey Havens?

Ironfoot · 01-19-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Now you hooked me on... I won't rest till I catch the answer....

So: Perhaps Elostirion, whose 'brother' is Tower of Meneltarma, the only remaining part of Atalante... or Grey Havens?

Colder, but at the same time, lesser landmarks is the right direction of thought. Still, I don't think Elostirion was a place that lay in darkness.

Galadriel55 · 01-29-2011, 11:11 AM

Fornost and Annuminas?

Flame of Udûn · 02-09-2011, 12:48 PM

It could be Nargothrond who's brother would be Gondolin

Galadriel55 · 02-09-2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Flame of Udûn

It could be Nargothrond who's brother would be Gondolin

Ironfoot said that it's in/close to Eriador. I think that would mean that it's not anywhere in Beleriand.
Nargothrond and Gondolin fit rather nicely, though.

Urwen · 02-10-2011, 02:30 AM

the downs?

Ironfoot · 02-10-2011, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Fornost and Annuminas?

Sorry for the wait!

Good guess, though Fornost falls into a ruined shadow of its former glory, it is not engulfed in darkness.

The Downs is the right train of thought. But those are made up of many bastard cousins and nephews and uncles, and that lineage gets a bit messy. These two brothers are far bigger.

Flame of Udûn · 02-10-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Ironfoot said that it's in/close to Eriador. I think that would mean that it's not anywhere in Beleriand.
Nargothrond and Gondolin fit rather nicely, though.

Ah didn't see that when I was looking through the stuff on the last page, this riddle is a tricky one since it is pretty general I think these are the two most likely
1. Moria- the first dwarven Kingdoms obvious defilement etc
2. Could be the old forest which (bar Mr Bombadill) is a rather evil place

Ironfoot · 02-10-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Flame of Udûn

Ah didn't see that when I was looking through the stuff on the last page, this riddle is a tricky one since it is pretty general I think these are the two most likely
1. Moria- the first dwarven Kingdoms obvious defilement etc
2. Could be the old forest which (bar Mr Bombadill) is a rather evil place

One of those is very, very close!

Evisse the Blue · 02-11-2011, 08:15 AM

Hm, Caradhras?

Flame of Udûn · 02-11-2011, 01:10 PM

well then perhaps mount Gundabad or Fangorn

Ironfoot · 02-11-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Flame of Udûn

well then perhaps mount Gundabad or Fangorn

Mount Gundabad it is!!! I'm glad someone got it. Take it away, Udun!

Flame of Udûn · 02-12-2011, 05:11 PM

*puffs on his pipe in triumph*

Right well I've struggled a bit with this but I think I've managed it ok
A love for two I tried to hold
but the two tore me apart
one I lost and so became whole
but a pain was left in my heart

Between the wilful shepherdess
And the Lady of the sea
My heart was in a constant duel
but this they could not see

I think since I reference 3 people here you should name them all (sorry its not the best riddle)

Galadriel55 · 02-12-2011, 07:07 PM

Sounds like Sam - the 2 people being Frodo and Rosie. The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is how they didn't see his pain - Frodo at least saw, even if no one else did.

Mnemosyne · 02-12-2011, 07:17 PM

Aldarion, Erendis, and Uinen/THE SEA.

Galadriel55 · 02-12-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Aldarion, Erendis, and Uinen/THE SEA.

*headdesk* I haven't yet read their story, but from what I know it sounds right.

Flame of Udûn · 02-12-2011, 10:41 PM

yep Mynemosyne has got it exactly right take it away

Galadriel55 · 03-18-2011, 08:35 PM

Well, it's been a while, and Mnemo didn't post a reply...

I am black, and Black I wield,
I fought Gold to protect gold.
I went out as a Lord of old
To be between Gold and gold as a shield.

Victorious was black, for Black never yields,
Or, at least, so black as told.

And hopefuly this riddle will require more than one guess to solve it! (

<-- for my previous two.

)

PS: please name everybody that was mentioned!

Urwen · 03-19-2011, 12:59 AM

One of those is Morgoth (or Sauron). The gold bit could refer to...

*gapes* Of course! Turin! He himself is black and wields black sword! He went to kill Glaurung the Golden to protect his wife and sister, who had golden hair. It all fits perfectly!

So, my guess is Turin.

Galadriel55 · 03-19-2011, 07:08 AM

and again it's solved from the first try. Yes, black=Turin, gold=Nienor Niniel, Black=Black Sword aka Gurthang, and Gold=Glaurung the Golden. You didnt mention the Lord (=Azaghal), but I'll give it to you anyways.

Looking forward to your riddle!

Urwen · 03-19-2011, 08:56 AM

Here it is:

Iron, gold and gold again
I created them all
They were stolen from me
On that fateful day

Hidden eyes and hidden allies
Followed my every step
When I found the truth
I could do nothing but weep

Journey came to an end
I still wonder why
When sun goes down
So shall I!

Happy riddling

Galadriel55 · 03-19-2011, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

When sun goes down
So shall I!

Well, this is a referece to Morwen ("I am spent. I shall go with the sun."). The "eyes and allies" could be Glaurung watcing them on Amon Ethir, and the Doriath troop under Mablung keeping watch over her.

However, she didn't lose Turin, Lalaith, and Nienor all in one day (well, if that's wht iron, gold, and gold mean)... Plus, she didn't weep.

So I dunno...

Urwen · 03-19-2011, 10:27 AM

No, she didn't. That is a metaphor. As is 'weep'.

So, your cue.

P.S. Those are metaphors, so don't hold a grudge.

P.P.S: It should have been 'the truth keep" instead of "weep". I decided upon the later to confuse you.

Anyway, it's your turn to make a riddle. And make it harder this time. Even me, who am poor when it comes to riddles, could guess your last one...

Galadriel55 · 03-19-2011, 11:51 AM

No grudges against your metaphors, and plese don't hold any against mine.

I thouht that my last riddle was confusing! Well, I was proven wrong...

I'm neither young nor old,
Right in between am I.
I finished my house,
Yet my line didn't die.

Happy riddling!

Urwen · 04-02-2011, 02:08 PM

Since no one seems to answer, I guess I'll encourage them, with my own guess...

Elendil?

Galadriel55 · 04-02-2011, 03:47 PM

No, not Elendil. Why do you think it was him? It will be easier if you explain your guess. I can tell you if you're in the right direction with something...

PS: YAY! My first riddle that wasn't solved from the first try!

The Might · 04-02-2011, 05:54 PM

This one is pretty tricky, but I'll give it a try: Theodred

I'm neither young nor old, - Theodred was 41 when he died - contrary to the wrong depiction in the films
Right in between am I. - 41 is just about half of the normal life expentancy for Rohirrim
I finished my house, - last of the House of Aldor
Yet my line didn't die. - the line of Eorl and Brego was continued on Eofor's side by Eomer

Galadriel55 · 04-02-2011, 05:58 PM

Good guess, TM, but not what I had in mind. You are definitely on the right track, at least with the actual answer. Some of the approach is right as well.

Keep trying!

PS: the Rohirrim had a rather high life expectancy during times of war!

PPS:

Quote:

This one is pretty tricky

I'm flattered.

Pitchwife · 04-03-2011, 03:07 PM

If Miggy was on the right track with the Rohirrim, I think I've got it.

It's Brego, isn't it? (Meaning the king, not the horse.)

I'm neither young nor old
- neither Eorl the Young nor Aldor the Old
Right in between am I.
- son of the former, father of the latter
I finished my house,
- completed the building of Meduseld
Yet my line didn't die.
- his first son, Baldor, was lost in the Paths of the Dead, but the second one, Aldor, continued the line.

Galadriel55 · 04-03-2011, 03:25 PM

And Brego it is!

Thread is yours, Pitch!

The Might · 04-03-2011, 04:48 PM

Nooooo!

Galadriel55 · 04-03-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Might

Nooooo!

Aww.

You probably got lost because you took "house" to mean "family", rather that the simpler meaning = building (there was a clue! I said 'finished', not 'ended'!).

And I just love the "young and old" thing.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

PS: Don't listen to me, I'm too hyper right now to talk sense.

PPS: I thought someone would guess (half)elves, because their features don't show age, but you can see their wisdom/life experience...

PPPS: Well, at least this was some progress for me. Riddle solved on 3rd guess, rather than the first...

PPPPS: I'm talking too much, and beating Gandalf at post-scriptum-ing

PPPPPS: Am excited for Pitch's riddle!

PPPPPPS: Going completely crazy, and totaly beating Gandaf at post-scriptums.

*Losing track of my post-scriptums, and apologizing for the number.

Galadriel55 · 04-13-2011, 07:52 PM

*Bump*

I see that Mnemo's game is taking up all your free time, Pitch.

Pitchwife · 04-14-2011, 11:21 AM

Er... well, yes, I'm afraid my creativity is rather firmly tied up over there. Would somebody be so nice to step in and relieve me here?

Urwen · 04-16-2011, 12:38 PM

I guess I'll post, for I have a riddle

Nine black, one white,
I control them, that's fate
White also controls black,
keeping them on right track.

In my tale ships do take part
My people and I - descendants of same race
My King cherished ships,
and I loved him in my heart.

Yet my actions were bitter betrayal
In more way than one
Into cruel destiny,
my punishment had me thrown.

(This one is a bit harder, if you don't know where to look.)

Galadriel55 · 04-16-2011, 12:40 PM

Beruthiel and her cats.

Urwen · 04-16-2011, 12:50 PM

And here I tried to confuse you by putting nothing specific...

Your turn.

Galadriel55 · 04-16-2011, 01:04 PM

"Nine black, one white," tipped me off.

I should have thought before answering. I've exhausted my riddle ideas. Hopefully this isn't as bad as I think it is:

I looked at grey -
Enchantment.

I looked at inferior -
Confidence.

I looked at gold -
Truth.

No rhyme, no rhythm, no alliteration, no nothing. My brain is tired.
Happy riddling!

01-19-2011, 06:48 AM	#1361
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	I'll take the shot with Weathertop? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

01-19-2011, 12:25 PM	#1363
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Now you hooked me on... I won't rest till I catch the answer.... So: Perhaps Elostirion, whose 'brother' is Tower of Meneltarma, the only remaining part of Atalante... or Grey Havens? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

01-29-2011, 11:11 AM	#1365
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	Fornost and Annuminas? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

02-09-2011, 12:48 PM	#1366
Flame of Udûn Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Mines of Moria Posts: 35	It could be Nargothrond who's brother would be Gondolin __________________ Not all those who wander are lost.

02-10-2011, 02:30 AM	#1368
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	the downs? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

01-19-2011, 11:24 AM	#1362
Ironfoot Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 21	Getting a bit warmer now...

02-11-2011, 08:15 AM	#1372
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Close in terms of geography? Hm, Caradhras? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

02-11-2011, 01:10 PM	#1373
Flame of Udûn Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Mines of Moria Posts: 35	well then perhaps mount Gundabad or Fangorn __________________ Not all those who wander are lost.

02-12-2011, 05:11 PM	#1375
Flame of Udûn Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Mines of Moria Posts: 35	puffs on his pipe in triumph Right well I've struggled a bit with this but I think I've managed it ok A love for two I tried to hold but the two tore me apart one I lost and so became whole but a pain was left in my heart Between the wilful shepherdess And the Lady of the sea My heart was in a constant duel but this they could not see I think since I reference 3 people here you should name them all (sorry its not the best riddle) __________________ Not all those who wander are lost. Last edited by Flame of Udûn; 02-12-2011 at 10:43 PM.

02-12-2011, 07:07 PM	#1376
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	Sounds like Sam - the 2 people being Frodo and Rosie. The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is how they didn't see his pain - Frodo at least saw, even if no one else did. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

02-12-2011, 07:17 PM	#1377
Mnemosyne Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Between the past and the future Posts: 1,159	Aldarion, Erendis, and Uinen/THE SEA. __________________ Got corsets?

02-12-2011, 10:41 PM	#1379
Flame of Udûn Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Mines of Moria Posts: 35	yep Mynemosyne has got it exactly right take it away __________________ Not all those who wander are lost.

03-18-2011, 08:35 PM	#1380
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	Well, it's been a while, and Mnemo didn't post a reply... I am black, and Black I wield, I fought Gold to protect gold. I went out as a Lord of old To be between Gold and gold as a shield. Victorious was black, for Black never yields, Or, at least, so black as told. And hopefuly this riddle will require more than one guess to solve it! ( <-- for my previous two. ) PS: please name everybody that was mentioned! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 03-18-2011 at 09:04 PM.

03-19-2011, 12:59 AM	#1381
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	One of those is Morgoth (or Sauron). The gold bit could refer to... gapes Of course! Turin! He himself is black and wields black sword! He went to kill Glaurung the Golden to protect his wife and sister, who had golden hair. It all fits perfectly! So, my guess is Turin. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

03-19-2011, 07:08 AM	#1382
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	and again it's solved from the first try. Yes, black=Turin, gold=Nienor Niniel, Black=Black Sword aka Gurthang, and Gold=Glaurung the Golden. You didnt mention the Lord (=Azaghal), but I'll give it to you anyways. Looking forward to your riddle! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

03-19-2011, 08:56 AM	#1383
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Here it is: Iron, gold and gold again I created them all They were stolen from me On that fateful day Hidden eyes and hidden allies Followed my every step When I found the truth I could do nothing but weep Journey came to an end I still wonder why When sun goes down So shall I! Happy riddling __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

03-19-2011, 10:27 AM	#1385
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	No, she didn't. That is a metaphor. As is 'weep'. So, your cue. P.S. Those are metaphors, so don't hold a grudge. P.P.S: It should have been 'the truth keep" instead of "weep". I decided upon the later to confuse you. Anyway, it's your turn to make a riddle. And make it harder this time. Even me, who am poor when it comes to riddles, could guess your last one... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 03-19-2011 at 10:40 AM.

03-19-2011, 11:51 AM	#1386
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	No grudges against your metaphors, and plese don't hold any against mine. I thouht that my last riddle was confusing! Well, I was proven wrong... I'm neither young nor old, Right in between am I. I finished my house, Yet my line didn't die. Happy riddling! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 03-24-2011 at 03:50 PM.

04-02-2011, 02:08 PM	#1387
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Since no one seems to answer, I guess I'll encourage them, with my own guess... Elendil? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-02-2011, 03:47 PM	#1388
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	No, not Elendil. Why do you think it was him? It will be easier if you explain your guess. I can tell you if you're in the right direction with something... PS: YAY! My first riddle that wasn't solved from the first try! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-02-2011, 05:54 PM	#1389
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	This one is pretty tricky, but I'll give it a try: Theodred I'm neither young nor old, - Theodred was 41 when he died - contrary to the wrong depiction in the films Right in between am I. - 41 is just about half of the normal life expentancy for Rohirrim I finished my house, - last of the House of Aldor Yet my line didn't die. - the line of Eorl and Brego was continued on Eofor's side by Eomer __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

04-03-2011, 03:07 PM	#1391
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	If Miggy was on the right track with the Rohirrim, I think I've got it. It's Brego, isn't it? (Meaning the king, not the horse.) I'm neither young nor old - neither Eorl the Young nor Aldor the Old Right in between am I. - son of the former, father of the latter I finished my house, - completed the building of Meduseld Yet my line didn't die. - his first son, Baldor, was lost in the Paths of the Dead, but the second one, Aldor, continued the line. __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

04-03-2011, 03:25 PM	#1392
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	And Brego it is! Thread is yours, Pitch! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-03-2011, 04:48 PM	#1393
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Nooooo! __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

04-13-2011, 07:52 PM	#1395
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	Bump I see that Mnemo's game is taking up all your free time, Pitch. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-14-2011, 11:21 AM	#1396
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Er... well, yes, I'm afraid my creativity is rather firmly tied up over there. Would somebody be so nice to step in and relieve me here? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

04-16-2011, 12:38 PM	#1397
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	I guess I'll post, for I have a riddle Nine black, one white, I control them, that's fate White also controls black, keeping them on right track. In my tale ships do take part My people and I - descendants of same race My King cherished ships, and I loved him in my heart. Yet my actions were bitter betrayal In more way than one Into cruel destiny, my punishment had me thrown. (This one is a bit harder, if you don't know where to look.) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-16-2011, 12:40 PM	#1398
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	Beruthiel and her cats. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

04-16-2011, 12:50 PM	#1399
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	And here I tried to confuse you by putting nothing specific... Your turn. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-16-2011, 01:04 PM	#1400
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	"Nine black, one white," tipped me off. I should have thought before answering. I've exhausted my riddle ideas. Hopefully this isn't as bad as I think it is: I looked at grey - Enchantment. I looked at inferior - Confidence. I looked at gold - Truth. No rhyme, no rhythm, no alliteration, no nothing. My brain is tired. Happy riddling! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 04-16-2011 at 02:43 PM. Reason: spelling