The King's Players - Discussion/Planning Thread

[Mnemosyne]

Sorry about not adding Pitch to the character list--I was holding off because I didn't know what list to put him in, and rather than do the sensible thing and add him to the minor one for now, I had quite forgotten...

I was going to suggest that we had forgotten that Sam existed entirely!!

And I will put in a second plug for Frodo going to Barad-dur to challenge Sauron to single combat, since that's pure canon.

Also, if we're still looking at aborted plots for ideas, I would love it if we had a Trotter...

I'm going to try to get a First Post up on this thread tomorrow so we all have a general idea of when and where the game is officially starting.

Oh, and this is now officially morphing into the Discussion Thread as well as the Planning thread.

[the phantom]

I was going to suggest that we had forgotten that Sam existed entirely!!

That's fine with me. I can change it if you'd like.

And I will put in a second plug for Frodo going to Barad-dur to challenge Sauron to single combat, since that's pure canon.

Oh, definitely. And as far as Saruman's character description, that's due to what you said about Brinn's husband wanted to play comic roles- I figured Saruman had some comic potential if we portrayed him as a rather ineffective crazy wizard. He couldn't have been very powerful after all, as the rumor is he and his works were ended by some walking plants.

Originally Posted by Pitch

But I suppose Gimli's part in the play - which must originally have been quite substantial in order to please our Dwarven fans back home and would have been played by someone else then - was cut a lot when Aldarion adapted the play to suit Gondorian taste?

Yes, I think that would be appropriate.

And what do you guys think about Lothlorien? How should we portray it and Galadriel?

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by the phantom

And what do you guys think about Lothlorien? How should we portray it and Galadriel?

If we want an insanely twisted romance plot, Branor's Aragorn would totally have the hots for Galadriel. A powerful beautiful elf-lady, who gives Aragorn gifts, as opposed to the sappy elf-maiden he's supposed to shack up with....

Of course it might be one-sided, as he attempts to court Galadriel, but Branor's Aragorn does not want to be with Arwen. No way. (Edit: Oh wow, and I just realized the whole grandma thing, that may be tooooo messed up)

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by the phantom

And what do you guys think about Lothlorien? How should we portray it and Galadriel?

In keeping with Boromir's feeling about the Golden Wood, as corroborated by the Rohirrim generally, I think something of a "Midsummer Night's Dream" take might be appropriate. In that case, perhaps Galadriel should be modelled on Titania and Celeborn on Oberon?

In which case is Legolas a Puck who has gone along with our "human heroes" ? :-p

[Anguirel]

ha good one Formendacil. I was thinking along similar lines but via Spenser not Shakespeare (note last line of my character's profile)

Inziladun and Pitchwife, I'm definitely open to having a sailor cousin (whom the newly minted Lord would be quite ashamed of)...might be a bit coincidental that my character just happens to intersect with Veandur and Amlach from Aldarion's cast though? reckon we should have one such link and not the other?

[Galadriel55]

Galadriel is of course a powerful witch, and all witches are bad. She tries to stop the fellowship (it was her that sent the dragon to the mountains, but he was defeated by Gandalf), but then orcs come (randomly) from the Misty Mountains and assail Lorien and the fellowship. Boromir is killed. The orcs are driven off. Galadriel humbles herself and helps them.

Something to echo the Battle of Five Armies, which men of Dale will be more familiar with.

And... just sayin'. Yeah. No need to change the scenario if this is a stupid idea.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

Inziladun and Pitchwife, I'm definitely open to having a sailor cousin (whom the newly minted Lord would be quite ashamed of)...might be a bit coincidental that my character just happens to intersect with Veandur and Amlach from Aldarion's cast though? reckon we should have one such link and not the other?

Well, I'm fine with the kinship, and maybe the double link would still work out, as I'm thinking Vëandur has been to Minas Anor on several occasions, but never when the King's Players were in town. As a matter of fact, I don't think he really knows what to expect from a "play". He might be looking for a stiff, reverential, "historical" drama.

And phantom, I think it's neat that Aldarion and Vëandur have such similar backgrounds and yet took completely different paths. Might be an opportunity for some drama between them, at some point?

[Dimturiel]

So Harrenon's ended up with the role of Legolas, eh? Nice, that's a character that leaves a lot of room for exaggeration ("Well, of course he could shoot ten orcs with a single arrow and of course he could fly over snow. What do you mean it's absurd? He's an Elf. Don't Elves always do that?")

If we want an insanely twisted romance plot, Branor's Aragorn would totally have the hots for Galadriel. A powerful beautiful elf-lady, who gives Aragorn gifts, as opposed to the sappy elf-maiden he's supposed to shack up with.

Ouch. Imagine the look on Aragorn and Arwen's faces if they saw something like that in the play

Of course it might be one-sided, as he attempts to court Galadriel, but Branor's Aragorn does not want to be with Arwen. No way.

Double ouch. I don't suppose those of Gondor had something like the death penalty, but I think they might have just made an exception with the King's Players after seeing such a story unfold.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Galadriel is of course a powerful witch, and all witches are bad. She tries to stop the fellowship

Actually, that bit would totally fit with what typical residents of Gondor and Rohan and such thought, wouldn't it? I can easily imagine the players initially writing in the Sorceress of the Golden Wood as a force opposed to the quest that ensnares the fellowship. There could be a great escape sequence, yes? But we could maintain some sort of romantic undercurrent if we want, with the enchantress trying to weave spells of seduction about Aragorn (or if need be someone else or perhaps several fellowship members).