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Old 01-18-2011, 06:39 PM   #1
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Yep, the dead vote night and day. I'm not sure whether to give the seer the power to see cobblers or not yet.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:49 PM   #2
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The DL for Nog's game was too pressing for me because it was right when I got out of work. Buuut....despite my better judgement I might have to play. Please put me down as a maybe. I'll look at my work schedule and let you know.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:27 PM   #3
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This sounds like lots of complex fun. It'll make me feel better if I get dead too quickly.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:56 PM   #4
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Yep, the dead vote night and day. I'm not sure whether to give the seer the power to see cobblers or not yet.
Well, you were looking for another advantage to give the innocents... but on the other hand, making it that simple to find the cobblers may make them too harmless.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:34 AM   #5
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You're allowed (and encouraged) to read the entire dead thread.
Oh, that might be quite a lot of reading... especially if Cobblers wreak havoc there... well, I guess that's the point...

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Do you think it's too difficult for the village? They do have the reincarnating ranger, as well as a way to access the dreams of a dead seer, but I'm not sure if that is enough to balance the large number of baddies & lack of knowledge. Perhaps I could add another advantage for the innocents.

Cobblers are important so that the dead thread can potentially be a den of cobblery (more so the better the village does, even) & wolf kills won't automatically be known innocents. If the innocents do badly, the influence of the dead will be more positive, too.
Not sure if difficult, I would say more like totally different. They will have strong Ranger and such, but there will be basically no immediate knowledge gained from lynching somebody etc. You may as well be in the dark for several Days.

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You can imagine, I love being able to force people to rely more heavily on interpreting posts...
I would have expected you not to overestimate interpreting posts after the last game's experience...

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So I take it that the Dead Thread doesn't sleep (ie. they post both night and day)? And when the first person is lynched, she can just vote to reveal her role, right?
Hey, that's actually an important point - and it could be a problem. How are you going to solve it during the first days? Because by Night 2, you'll have 1 person on the dead thread, by Night 3, three people, if everything goes "normal". Will there be a vote in Mandos only from Night 3 onwards, or after there are at least 3 dead people (in case there is a Ranger save the previous Night and so on, because then you could not effectively have a vote if there are just two people voting)? The point is, if the first person could simply vote herself, then of course she would do so if she is innocent, and clearly, if she is a Cobbler/Wolf, she probably wouldn't want to do that... unless you make it e.g. so that person who dies first is automatically revealed in any case, etc...
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:24 AM   #6
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Re: tie-breakers in the dead thread. Rikae edited it into the original post, but just so everyone knows: they will be decided by a die.

It should also be added that dead wolves and living wolves may not pm. Two dead wolves may pm again, Night and Day. The same rule holds for the lovers.

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Oh, that might be quite a lot of reading...
It will be interesting, I think, whether it will be or not. Participation is not required after all, and the first few nights and days there will only be a few people.

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How are you going to solve it during the first days? Because by Night 2, you'll have 1 person on the dead thread, by Night 3, three people, if everything goes "normal".
Another rule we talked about, but failed to put down here: the voting for the extra vote will start once the first person joins the dead. The vote for the revealing of roles starts once the population reaches 3.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:38 AM   #7
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Well, you were looking for another advantage to give the innocents... but on the other hand, making it that simple to find the cobblers may make them too harmless.
I don't think so. They'd have to look suspicious enough so the wolves don't kill them but innocent enough so the seer doesn't dream them... Which provides some additional challenge for them. And a known cobbler isn't necessarily a harmless cobbler.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:01 AM   #8
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I think I will give the seer the ability to see cobblers; after all, the seer might be a cobbler for all the village knows, and only the dead (or someone who returns from the dead) will be able to verify the seer's identity. For the village to detect a cobbler with certainty will still take several steps and a bit of luck.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:16 AM   #9
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Actually, with the way we have it right now, the seer's role can't be verified with certainty at all, since the dead people can only distinguish wolves and non-wolves. The seer can only be told apart from an imposting cobbler by circumstantial evidence.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:57 PM   #10
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I'm assuming, even though it wasn't stated outright, that the dead are allowed to read the living's conversation so as to best choose the recipient of an extra vote... Unless of course the extra vote is meant to be rather random...which I could see having some benefit, but....oh, dear, now I'm just confusing myself.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:12 PM   #11
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Finally! A game where the Dead participate!

Heck yeah I'll play!
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