WW: LXXXV - The Lost Philosophers of Maiar - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Macalaure · 01-13-2011, 06:35 PM

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I would've been so mad if Mac had been a wolf because I protected him twice

Guessing your role right was actually the only good thing I managed to do this game - after you brought my attention to the fact that Shasta referred to you as a cobbler, but to Rikae as an ordo. Didn't help, though.

Inziladun · 01-13-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

Easily the worst game I ever played as an ordo. *shakes head*

Tell me about it. If I hadn't second-guessed myself at the last moment and voted Nessa instead of Lottie, things might have gone differently.

I came into this game feeling rather relieved to not be a wolf finally, and as a result I was pretty careless, saying whatever was on my mind, with little thought as to how it would make me look. We see how well that worked.

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

Congrats to the wolves, though! Very well and very sneakily played.

Indeed. Most impressive!

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

On D1 she picked Sally. She changed it to Pitchie on N2 and held with him to the end.

See? I was all for lynching Kit! We could've gotten the Cobbler at least.

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

I was at a loss on what to do, because right from the start it was like we got heavily suspected. Day 1 Nessa and Wilwa were in trouble, and Skip a little bit. Then Nessa some more, then me, then back to Skip, then back to me. It was a rollercoaster of emotions and nearly impossible to find the seer since it seemed like everyone had suspicions against at least one wolf.

I'd like to point out that even though I later dropped the ball on Nessa, I was the first to suspect her for something (the "numbers" Day 1 post), and what happened? I got suspected instead.

Great game, Nogmod! I enjoyed it immensely.

skip spence · 01-14-2011, 04:06 AM

Ah it´s all over then. Nice to be on good side of a rout this time and get revenge on Inzil from last time we played. Fun game. Excellent modding. And although it didn´t end up that well for the innocents, during the early Days we were terrified, it seemed like whatever we said illicited a unosone cry of "WOLF!!".

Should return with some more comments on Sunday.

Galadriel55 · 01-14-2011, 06:15 AM

I was watching the game, and it really has to be a record - not a single wolf lynch!

Inziladun · 01-14-2011, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I was watching the game, and it really has to be a record - not a single wolf lynch!

It's been done at least once before. Presumably, that's the game skip was wanting revenge on me for.

We didn't have nearly that high number of villagers against us as in this case, though.

Cailín · 01-14-2011, 07:04 AM

Actually I remember a time in the very distant past - WWX - when all the werewolves survived as well. Incidentally, Wilwarin modded that game and one of the victorious wolves was Boromir88. Of course, this time four wolves survived and that may be a first. WWX was a very different game, but I think the ordinary villagers made similar mistakes: a lack of confidence in their own judgment (this was definitely true for me this game) and overly relying on the judgment of "experienced" players (or loudmouths). In WWX the wolves were able to take over the village because of this. In this game, some of the vocal players simply made the wrong choices (which happens to us all every now and then, and definitely to all of us this game). I know this has been brought up before but it would be a nice experiment to see what would happen in a village in which we were all anonymous without some people automatically assuming a leadership position because of their were-miles. Also, no more meta reasoning

I think it's quite funny how everyone sort of knew who the wolves were all game long but still we failed. When I told Eomer of the Rohirrim, who is in bed with a high fever at the moment, that the wolves had achieved a flawless victory (without revealing any of the kills after Shasta) the conversation went roughly like this:

Eomer: So was Mac a wolf?
Me: No, just misguided after all. Want to guess?
Eomer: Let me see... Nessa. Skip. Who else was playing? Wilwarin. And err... Boromir88?
Me: Yea. Exactly.
Eomer: Foolish village.

Cailín · 01-14-2011, 07:15 AM

Oh wait - it is also the second time Wilwarin achieved a total wolf victory. Sorry Wilwa. In my first game, WWIX, the wolves also all made it to the end and they had even more Gifteds and special roles working against them.

I have also just realised I was an ordinary villager in each of these games and survived until the final Day twice, getting all sorts of innocents lynched. A very embarrassing sort of pattern.

wilwarin538 · 01-14-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cailín

Oh wait - it is also the second time Wilwarin achieved a total wolf victory.

Yeah, I'm sorta awesome.

This game was pretty sweet, I wish I hadn't been so busy and could have actually participated more (though maybe the lack of posts sorta helped me out). We certainly had fantastic luck, especially with Nessa never actually being lynched, and Shasta and Manwe (that was all just too perfect of a situation for us).

And I don't know if it's been brought up yet, but we did know Pitch was our Cobbler. He sent his name in the first Night. I was so excited when Sallycakes brought up that idea, and even more excited when Agan drew extra attention to it.

We were very grateful that he got lynched in place of one of us, he served his purpose well!

My fellow wolves are all awesome. I can't remember if Boro and I have ever wolved together before, if we haven't it was about time that we did. And Nessa and Skip were fantastic, Nessa for avoiding those lynches like a pro, and Skip for having some pretty brilliant ideas!

And of course much love to Noggins, who did a wonderful job! <3

wilwarin538 · 01-14-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

It's been done at least once before. Presumably, that's the game skip was wanting revenge on me for.

We didn't have nearly that high number of villagers against us as in this case, though.

Ah, the game of the epic team Nogorozilwe. That game was dreadful.

And ironically was already refered to in the present game, after Kit revealed and Skip said "no, I'm the real Hunter", haha.

Ozban · 01-14-2011, 07:19 AM

As Inzil posted above:

This autumn in Lommy's game (WW LXXXII), btw. it was that famous Shastaseer slaughter

, all wolves and even the cobbler survived till the end.
I belive it was Nog, Inzil and Eonwe as wolves and Boro-cobb.

This time at least the cobbler died.

01-14-2011, 04:06 AM	#3
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	Ah it´s all over then. Nice to be on good side of a rout this time and get revenge on Inzil from last time we played. Fun game. Excellent modding. And although it didn´t end up that well for the innocents, during the early Days we were terrified, it seemed like whatever we said illicited a unosone cry of "WOLF!!". Should return with some more comments on Sunday. __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

01-14-2011, 06:15 AM	#4
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,526	I was watching the game, and it really has to be a record - not a single wolf lynch! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

01-14-2011, 07:19 AM	#10
Ozban Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: On the road, again... Posts: 73	As Inzil posted above: This autumn in Lommy's game (WW LXXXII), btw. it was that famous Shastaseer slaughter , all wolves and even the cobbler survived till the end. I belive it was Nog, Inzil and Eonwe as wolves and Boro-cobb. This time at least the cobbler died. __________________ Let us sit upon the ground, and tell sad stories of the death of kings. - Shakespeare (Richard II)

01-14-2011, 07:04 AM	#6
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	Actually I remember a time in the very distant past - WWX - when all the werewolves survived as well. Incidentally, Wilwarin modded that game and one of the victorious wolves was Boromir88. Of course, this time four wolves survived and that may be a first. WWX was a very different game, but I think the ordinary villagers made similar mistakes: a lack of confidence in their own judgment (this was definitely true for me this game) and overly relying on the judgment of "experienced" players (or loudmouths). In WWX the wolves were able to take over the village because of this. In this game, some of the vocal players simply made the wrong choices (which happens to us all every now and then, and definitely to all of us this game). I know this has been brought up before but it would be a nice experiment to see what would happen in a village in which we were all anonymous without some people automatically assuming a leadership position because of their were-miles. Also, no more meta reasoning I think it's quite funny how everyone sort of knew who the wolves were all game long but still we failed. When I told Eomer of the Rohirrim, who is in bed with a high fever at the moment, that the wolves had achieved a flawless victory (without revealing any of the kills after Shasta) the conversation went roughly like this: Eomer: So was Mac a wolf? Me: No, just misguided after all. Want to guess? Eomer: Let me see... Nessa. Skip. Who else was playing? Wilwarin. And err... Boromir88? Me: Yea. Exactly. Eomer: Foolish village.

01-14-2011, 07:15 AM	#7
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	Oh wait - it is also the second time Wilwarin achieved a total wolf victory. Sorry Wilwa. In my first game, WWIX, the wolves also all made it to the end and they had even more Gifteds and special roles working against them. I have also just realised I was an ordinary villager in each of these games and survived until the final Day twice, getting all sorts of innocents lynched. A very embarrassing sort of pattern.