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gondowe · 12-09-2010, 12:32 AM

My opinion always was that there are some notes (vagues) writen at any time by Tolkien that must be taken carefully, one of these is this about 3 o 7 Balrogs. I think that if the professor had really stablished this in his mind, he’d must had change lot of passages along the texts, and for one or another reason (time, dead or another change of oppinion) didn’t do it.

Of course in the last mithology aspect we have, there’s no place for neither thousands nor hundreds or dozens of Balrogs, but there could have existed 8, 10 or 15, and they are very few for a coherent tale.
In the passage of the fall of Utumno it could be changed Balrogs for Demons and it’s again coherent with the subsecuent tales.

§50 {It}Thus it came to pass that at last the gates of Utumno were broken and its halls unroofed, and Melkor took refuge in the uttermost pit. Thence, seeing that all was lost (for that time), he sent forth on a sudden a CE-EX-12.5 {host}<AAm, late scribbeld changes his> of {Balrogs}[Demons], the last of his servants that remained, and they assailed the standard of Manwë, as it were a tide of flame. But they were withered in the wind of his wrath and slain with the lightning of his sword; and Melkor stood at last alone.>

So the Demon of Glorfindel can be A Balrog leaving whatever of both words (even knowing Tolkien himself changed the word)

Greetings.

12-09-2010, 12:32 AM	#11
gondowe Wight Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 247	My opinion always was that there are some notes (vagues) writen at any time by Tolkien that must be taken carefully, one of these is this about 3 o 7 Balrogs. I think that if the professor had really stablished this in his mind, he’d must had change lot of passages along the texts, and for one or another reason (time, dead or another change of oppinion) didn’t do it. Of course in the last mithology aspect we have, there’s no place for neither thousands nor hundreds or dozens of Balrogs, but there could have existed 8, 10 or 15, and they are very few for a coherent tale. In the passage of the fall of Utumno it could be changed Balrogs for Demons and it’s again coherent with the subsecuent tales. §50 {It}Thus it came to pass that at last the gates of Utumno were broken and its halls unroofed, and Melkor took refuge in the uttermost pit. Thence, seeing that all was lost (for that time), he sent forth on a sudden a CE-EX-12.5 {host}<AAm, late scribbeld changes his> of {Balrogs}[Demons], the last of his servants that remained, and they assailed the standard of Manwë, as it were a tide of flame. But they were withered in the wind of his wrath and slain with the lightning of his sword; and Melkor stood at last alone.> So the Demon of Glorfindel can be A Balrog leaving whatever of both words (even knowing Tolkien himself changed the word) Greetings.