WW: LXXXIV - Middle Earth in Fifteen Minutes

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Really, I'm insulted by that one. Damage control for whom?

My apologies, it was meant as a compliment on your wolfing skills and as a joke about you always being such an enigma in the end-game. If it offended, I'm sorry, I didn't mean it that way.

To be honest I don't know what sense voting Nerwen made - aren't weirdness and "unproductiveness" much more usual signs of ordoishness than of wolvishness? I think the voting reasons of everybody in the nerwagon (including myself) are silly, but so were mostly the reasons of other votes. I think the biggest dilemma regarding analysing yesterDay is whether we can use the votes as valid anything or not, because a big part of the village was thinking they might as well vote random...

Ps. Currently suspecting Zil (too happy, for example: "I wonder if an 13-way tie has ever happened before?") and Nog (somehow artificial, can't pharse it better).

[Inziladun]

Sorry about that, Nerwen.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Curiously, sally wasn't one of the most vocal players, for certain. Looking at her posts, I am somewhat doubtful about whether there was something that the WWs might have considered a sign of Giftedness (most of all, Seerishness).

I think that's a reach. The things you cite as items that might interest the wolves would only have done so if we have an exceptionally jumpy or newbie pack. I'm inclined to think Lommy has the answer.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

You quote a passage where Sally claims to be an ordo and effectively suggest theories of the wolves considering her anything but that. That's incredibly funny, and makes you look innocent and confused because you're ignoring what seems to me by far the most viable option: the wolves believed what Sally said and decided to kill her so as to avoid killing gifteds (ie avoid the heir's power taking effect) and kind of throwing the ball back to us.

Indeed. Sally pretty much begged them to kill her.

Originally Posted by Nessa Telrunya

Ouch. Two ordos

Perhaps the wolves went for sally because of her Vote yesterDay?

Which would make Lommy a wolf. However, like I said, I doubt an experienced pack would have seen anything in what Sally said to have panicked them that she was a Seer.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

To be honest I don't know what sense voting Nerwen made - aren't weirdness and "unproductiveness" much more usual signs of ordoishness than of wolvishness? I think the voting reasons of everybody in the nerwagon (including myself) are silly, but so were mostly the reasons of other votes. I think the biggest dilemma regarding analysing yesterDay is whether we can use the votes as valid anything or not, because a big part of the village was thinking they might as well vote random...

Well, I gave my reasons yesterDay. You're right in that the votes yesterDay were generally even more capricious than usual for Day 1.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Currently suspecting Zil (too happy, for example: "I wonder if an 13-way tie has ever happened before?") and Nog (somehow artificial, can't pharse it better).

I wasn't particularly happy, more bemused at the fact that the votes were so spread out.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

You quote a passage where Sally claims to be an ordo and effectively suggest theories of the wolves considering her anything but that. That's incredibly funny, and makes you look innocent and confused because you're ignoring what seems to me by far the most viable option: the wolves believed what Sally said and decided to kill her so as to avoid killing gifteds (ie avoid the heir's power taking effect) and kind of throwing the ball back to us.

I agree with this scenario - Sally's done the exact same thing before, and anyone who'd seen her do that (including, if I remember correctly, Nessa as well as the usual lot) would recognize that as a genuine offer. So the wolves, not wanting to hit a Gifted, go for the all but confirmed ordo.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Ps. Currently suspecting Zil (too happy, for example: "I wonder if an 13-way tie has ever happened before?") and Nog (somehow artificial, can't pharse it better).

Why are you saying everything I am thinking?

[Boromir88]

I will more or less have to vote randomly again today as I'm going to be swamped with busyness for the remainder of the week, as I'm needed to moderate for this academic/jeopardy-like tournament area schools are competing in.

So, with my apologies of apalling inactivity and to to the Master Mod. I may be on late may not...

++Lommy

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

To be honest I don't know what sense voting Nerwen made - aren't weirdness and "unproductiveness" much more usual signs of ordoishness than of wolvishness? I think the voting reasons of everybody in the nerwagon (including myself) are silly, but so were mostly the reasons of other votes. I think the biggest dilemma regarding analysing yesterDay is whether we can use the votes as valid anything or not, because a big part of the village was thinking they might as well vote random...

This logic just seems all too suspicious, and rather clever. Lommy's in fact pointing attention to the strange Nerwen votes, which she herself was a part of. It looks like an attempt to be fair and reasonable by drawing suspicion on something she did, in an attempt to exonerate herself from voting Nerwen.

[elronds_daughter]

I concur, Boro. Lommy and Legate are both looking a bit unfriendly to me at the moment... Legate mostly because of the completely fallible logic in trying to reason out why Sally got dead. Those kinds of reverse-psychology leaps are just plain weird. But, I may be reading too much into it. (Especially since Lommy herself pointed out how little sense Legate was making.)

But it's still entirely possible that I'm wrong on both accounts.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

This logic just seems all too suspicious, and rather clever. Lommy's in fact pointing attention to the strange Nerwen votes, which she herself was a part of. It looks like an attempt to be fair and reasonable by drawing suspicion on something she did, in an attempt to exonerate herself from voting Nerwen.

I don't really follow this. There's a bit of a jump - that is, we'd have to jump from "she brings up suspicions that could be used against herself" and then manage to make it to "she must be innocent". I don't think we'd make that jump, and I highly doubt Lommy would expect us to.

Originally Posted by elronds_daughter

Legate mostly because of the completely fallible logic in trying to reason out why Sally got dead. Those kinds of reverse-psychology leaps are just plain weird. But, I may be reading too much into it. (Especially since Lommy herself pointed out how little sense Legate was making.)

And yet, I have a hard time seeing a wolf spend that much time talking about logic he did not use overNight. If he were a wolf, I imagine he'd touch on it, maybe hesitantly point to a possible wolf, but not go into it in quite that much detail.

Examining possible Gifted hints has become almost a habit - and often a helpful one - and someone would probably have done it eventually.

[elronds_daughter]

Originally Posted by Loslote

And yet, I have a hard time seeing a wolf spend that much time talking about logic he did not use overNight. If he were a wolf, I imagine he'd touch on it, maybe hesitantly point to a possible wolf, but not go into it in quite that much detail.

Examining possible Gifted hints has become almost a habit - and often a helpful one - and someone would probably have done it eventually.

Noted. Like I said, I'm potentially wrong on both accounts... Legate's logic just seemed odd to me. But maybe it wasn't a bad odd and my interpretation is off.