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| View Poll Results: Who, in the Lord of the Rings, was the most effective liar? | |||
| Boromir |
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0 | 0% |
| Denethor |
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1 | 1.92% |
| Gollum |
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2 | 3.85% |
| Saruman |
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14 | 26.92% |
| Sauron |
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22 | 42.31% |
| Wormtongue |
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13 | 25.00% |
| Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
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Although I have to join the chorus of those saying that the moments when Sauron's "art" of lie really seems like an "art" are mostly the First/Second Era ones. The episode with Gorlim is definitely the top for me. Sauron (and even more the "proto-Sauron", like his earlier "versions" in the Lay of Leithian) seems to me to be the liar, although of course taking nothing from Morgoth, of whom he was technically a mere servant, so "cosmologically" it is pretty certain that Morgoth was "the" liar; but sort of from the literary perspective, it seems to me that with Sauron, it is somehow more emphasised (and also if the question is only about LotR, then Morgoth is anyway out of question).
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Blossom of Dwimordene
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The realm of forgotten words
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If we'd consider the 1st age as well, I'd agree with you on Morgoth. He created lie in the first place. He decieved men, elves, and even the Valar.
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
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That's why I think these particular 'lies' were not so effective, because the end-result was the same with or without them: those armies were marching for Sauron regardless.
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