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Old 11-04-2010, 10:37 AM   #1
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Ok, seriously, are we giving Loslote a free pass because of what EW said? I tend to think yes and that we have to trust our Seer to make his dreams apparent. Opinions?
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:57 AM   #2
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Wow, our first dead ordo (on Night 5, how odd).
Whoa, that's true actually. What a strange game.
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There's something weird about this comment. It's a reply to me after I said I suspected both Nerwen and Shasta but didn't want to vote for them that day. It's oddly... self-conscious, if you know what I mean. It looks like he was accusing me of not voting either of them... or kind of like "She doesn't want to vote for people she suspects! Guilty!" And it actually makes me feel worse about Nerwen.
I don't get this point really, but then again I don't think I get the quote it's about either..
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Shasta suspects (but never votes - everyone he actually voted is dead by now):
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This, though, is really interesting. Especially the first category. Shasta was quite consistent in suspecting both Agan and Eomer, and yet never voted either. I doubt both two are his fellows, that would be a very odd move from Shasta's part, but I'll be a bit surprised if neither of them is. Suspecting without actually doing anything about it points to wolf-on-wolf, though as I said that's likely not the case with both (which brings into question if it's the case with either). Agh, I've got a feeling I'm not making much sense, but I'm trying.
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Ok, seriously, are we giving Loslote a free pass because of what EW said? I tend to think yes and that we have to trust our Seer to make his dreams apparent. Opinions?
I agree with you on this point. It would have made absolutely no sense at all for EW to single her out like that while mentioning no one else if he hadn't dreamed her innocent. So I, at least, am leaving Lottie alone.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:08 AM   #3
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Kind of random I'm afraid! Good luck!
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:14 AM   #4
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There's something weird about this comment. It's a reply to me after I said I suspected both Nerwen and Shasta but didn't want to vote for them that day. It's oddly... self-conscious, if you know what I mean. It looks like he was accusing me of not voting either of them... or kind of like "She doesn't want to vote for people she suspects! Guilty!" And it actually makes me feel worse about Nerwen.
I don't get this point really, but then again I don't think I get the quote it's about either..
Me neither. It seems like a bit of a reach on Agan's part, really.

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This, though, is really interesting. Especially the first category. Shasta was quite consistent in suspecting both Agan and Eomer, and yet never voted either. I doubt both two are his fellows, that would be a very odd move from Shasta's part, but I'll be a bit surprised if neither of them is. Suspecting without actually doing anything about it points to wolf-on-wolf, though as I said that's likely not the case with both (which brings into question if it's the case with either). Agh, I've got a feeling I'm not making much sense, but I'm trying.
No, that makes sense– and I don't know which of them (if it is one) it would be.

However, since I have to go now I'll vote

++Eomer

Apologies if you're innocent, Eomer, because you really helped lynch Shasta yesterDay– but I'm afraid your interactions rubbed me the wrong way, especially towards the end. Like you were overplaying the role of an innocent gloating over a trapped wolf, if you see what I mean.

And I'm sorry for my lack of participation toDay, but I spent the morning and afternoon driving around the country getting footage for a video I'm making, and the evening logging it. So I just wasn't able to be around much.

EDIT:X'd since Greenie.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:25 AM   #5
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I'm mildly confused about this focus on Shasta being Alpha meaning that he was 'in charge'. Especially after someone posted that part of the narration in which ALL the wolves were referred to as Alpha. So surely the term has no meaning beyond being a kind of title. As for Shasta saying 'I have two wolf buddies who will rip apart anyone I say' (ish) ... so far as I saw that was just a caught wolf blustering. Can't quite see why people are reading so much into it.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:31 AM   #6
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Ok, seriously, are we giving Loslote a free pass because of what EW said? I tend to think yes and that we have to trust our Seer to make his dreams apparent. Opinions?
Yes. If she actually is a wolf and wins the game, we can blame EW.

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(By the way, I think we can assume that Tom is not somebody whom she could have stunned last Night, and not who she apparently thought he was, right? In this case, I'm quite at a loss what to make of her vendetta against Agan. Any ideas?)
What do you mean with the first sentence?
Anyway it occurred to me that the wolves might have thought Inzil was Tom - after all sally clearly seemed to... at least if they decided to go by Shasta's plan. That would explain why Lottie is still alive, I was expecting her to die because of how EW singled her out.
As for her attack against me, the easiest explanation is that she thought I was actually a wolf, although I'm pretty sure the fact that I suspected her played a part in it.

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Me neither. It seems like a bit of a reach on Agan's part, really.
If it looks odd to me, I rather point it out than regret it afterwards.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:34 PM   #7
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So... I came on the Downs approximately 3 hours ago, intending to post here, and completely got sidetracked by the genealogy of the sons of Eärendil, and then got distracted by a process of tangentially related ideas such that... I'm only here now, and with other things to do.

Hopefully, though, you expect nothing else from me at this point, given how the game has gone so far.

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This, though, is really interesting. Especially the first category. Shasta was quite consistent in suspecting both Agan and Eomer, and yet never voted either. I doubt both two are his fellows, that would be a very odd move from Shasta's part, but I'll be a bit surprised if neither of them is.
In my read-through of posts so far, this is what stuck out to me... largely because I tend to agree--although I'm a bit more willing than Greenie to think they could both be wolves, while conceding that one is, in fact, more likely.

In keeping then, with my yesterDay suspicions about Agan (namely that she was listed with me in Shasta's post for the purposes of exonerating her, convicting me, doing both, or just confusing the village), I'll lean in her direction, though Eomer is giving me bad vibes as well.

++ Aganzir

I may be on later... but I'm not committing to it.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:51 PM   #8
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Very interesting. Green posits that because Shasta had suspected Aganzir and myself without ever voting for us that it points to the guilt of one of us. I read her point thinking: "No-one will go for that, surely? Shasta was a blabbermouth and suspected a number of people; he can vote for only one per day."

For the record, I know I'm innocent and I believe Aganzir is innocent too (Shasta went strongly against Aganzir).

But immediately, two people buy into it. Nerwen votes for me, in an apologetic way no less. Alarm bells immediately go off. Then Formendacil chooses Agan -- I suspect to avoid accusations of bandwagoning.

Ai, ai! Kath might be innocent yet!

It's Green, Form and Nerwen for the gallows says I!

As an aside I fully expected to be a target for the wolves and their cobbler today, so heed my words should I die.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:52 PM   #9
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it wasn't just strong suspicion, it was an absolute and aggressive conviction of Agan's furriness.
Who knows, maybe she wanted to look like the seer so you'd have lynched me and she would've got rid of a pain in the neck... I want to hear her reasons when the game ends.

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I brought it up because I thought it could help me see clearer about Agan, but as things are, it doesn't very much.
If you're asking if I'm Tom - nope. However, I'm pretty sure I know who they are, and should they say so, I can share it with the rest of you (that's not forbidden, is it? ).

Also, I seriously consider voting for Form now. When he bothers to show up, he votes for me because Shasta mentioned him and me in the same post yesterday.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:02 PM   #10
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Loslote for Eomer

Wilwa for Pitch

Nerwen for Eomer

Form for Aganzir
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