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Old 10-15-2010, 01:50 AM   #1
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But it does make you wonder though, right? I mean, to get off topic somewhat, you even saw the flute boy and drummer boy marching in the front during the Revolutionary times...how did they manage to survive?!

And thus, I came to the conclusion that this is what happens when elves become bored on life threatening missions in general. they take harps and what have you along with them to...lift their spirits up and keep them motivated.
Guahahaha. Just think of what would happen if there was no comic relief/motivation/'Do You Hear the People Sing?' There's a very nice picture on Deviantart, of Fingon before he sets out to Thangorodrim, and the artist has actually put a little harp along with the rest of his gear, hanging from his arm. I can't post the link here sadly, it's not working.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:52 AM   #2
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Haha! 'Tis very true it wouldn't be as amusing to read without the comic relief added in.

Hmm, I went to Deviantart and tried looking for it myself, but couldn't find it.
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Old 10-16-2010, 08:22 AM   #3
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Fëanor. Because it's great there are people who dare to question authority even at the risk of an eternal curse. Plus having your body consumed by the fire in your soul... who wouldn't like that?
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Old 10-16-2010, 03:45 PM   #4
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Fëanor. Because it's great there are people who dare to question authority even at the risk of an eternal curse. Plus having your body consumed by the fire in your soul... who wouldn't like that?
Leave it to you to bring that up.
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Old 10-17-2010, 12:44 AM   #5
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Fëanor. Because it's great there are people who dare to question authority even at the risk of an eternal curse. Plus having your body consumed by the fire in your soul... who wouldn't like that?
I agree with you completely, Agan. Fëanor fanciers of the world unite! Leave it to him to make his own destiny and ignore the stuffy Valar.

I have to say though, as much as I sometimes appreciate Fëanor it is Ungoliant whom I truly admire most. She did whatever she pleased and 'accomplished' amazing things. Silly Melkor and his pet Balrogs, she could have been a great recurring character.

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Old 10-17-2010, 06:33 AM   #6
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it is Ungoliant whom I truly admire most. She did whatever she pleased and 'accomplished' amazing things.
Ouch, how could I forget her? She's truly admirable, not the least because she's about the only independent female character in Tolkien's books. I am convinced she's portrayed as such demon only because the patriarchies of Middle-Earth couldn't stomach her kind of woman - I mean, what if she had talked to our daughters and brainwashed them to leave their father's home and the chance of a good marriage in pursuit of their own happiness and fortune?!
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Old 10-17-2010, 12:14 PM   #7
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Ouch, how could I forget her? She's truly admirable, not the least because she's about the only independent female character in Tolkien's books
Well, there is Galadriel, and Erendis and Tar-Acalime- a girl who had less tolerance for her consort then Queen Victoria showed to Al.
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:23 AM   #8
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Ouch, how could I forget her? She's truly admirable, not the least because she's about the only independent female character in Tolkien's books.
Hmm. Well, as Felagund said, there's Galadriel, not to mention Éowyn, and then there's Aredhel too.
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Ouch, how could I forget her? She's truly admirable, not the least because she's about the only independent female character in Tolkien's books. I am convinced she's portrayed as such demon only because the patriarchies of Middle-Earth couldn't stomach her kind of woman - I mean, what if she had talked to our daughters and brainwashed them to leave their father's home and the chance of a good marriage in pursuit of their own happiness and fortune?!
I'm confused. You're saying that a good female character is a hideous monster who consumes all light and turns it into entangling, deceitful webs of absolute darkness and despair?
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Haha! 'Tis very true it wouldn't be as amusing to read without the comic relief added in.

Hmm, I went to Deviantart and tried looking for it myself, but couldn't find it.
http://aautio.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1064lg

Here it is.
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Oh my, that is a really great drawing!

Haha, I could see many reactions to this piece of art as well, for those who don't know Fingon that is.

1. Sword and sheath. Check.

2. Helmet with the complete protective armour. Check.

3. Knife. Check

4. Bow and a quiver of arrows. Check.

5. A harp for musical entertainment. Che-wait, what? Really? A harp?!

People just don't understand the importance of the harp at all.
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Off the top of my head, Mîm the Dwarf. There's so many interesting shades and facets to him - his mysterious backstory as the last (?) of a race of outcasts, whose history is only hinted at, his resentment (not quite unjustified) of the Elvish upstarts who displaced his people, his grudging respect for Túrin... And his dialogues with Túrin's outlaws in the Narn are just priceless.

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I'm confused. You're saying that a good female character is a hideous monster who consumes all light and turns it into entangling, deceitful webs of absolute darkness and despair?
Not to mention an uneducated glutton to whom the highest products of the jeweller's art are just food.
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Galadriel, Erendis, Tar-Ancalime, Éowyn, Aredhel... Yeah, but they all were slaves to their heteronormative patriarchal societies which basically forced a woman to get married and have kids, even made her believe she couldn't be happy without doing it. While Ungoliant coupled with other spiders and devoured them afterwards. Now there's a good female role model!

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Not to mention an uneducated glutton to whom the highest products of the jeweller's art are just food.
Sheesh! Male conspiracy to discredit the only M-E woman who stood up for herself!
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:43 AM   #15
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Oh my, that is a really great drawing!

Haha, I could see many reactions to this piece of art as well, for those who don't know Fingon that is.

1. Sword and sheath. Check.

2. Helmet with the complete protective armour. Check.

3. Knife. Check

4. Bow and a quiver of arrows. Check.

5. A harp for musical entertainment. Che-wait, what? Really? A harp?!
*Laughs* Just imagine elves without Music. That's like cake without sugar and butter. No point

I think for Tolkien fans reading LotR, The Hobbit and The Silmarillion is a basic necessity. You can't understand anything otherwise!
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Old 10-20-2010, 05:26 PM   #16
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*Laughs* Just imagine elves without Music. That's like cake without sugar and butter. No point

I think for Tolkien fans reading LotR, The Hobbit and The Silmarillion is a basic necessity. You can't understand anything otherwise!
I completely agree with the delicious comparison you used haha, every time I eat a piece of cake now I'll think of Fingon and his harp!

The Hobbit and Silmarillion are definite necessities to read beforehand. I read everything completely backwards (the trilogy first, then the hobbit and Sil.) the first time around and was so confused, it wasn't even funny!
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The Hobbit and Silmarillion are definite necessities to read beforehand. I read everything completely backwards (the trilogy first, then the hobbit and Sil.) the first time around and was so confused, it wasn't even funny!
Oh god I can identify with that. I should have read The Hobbit first, and THEN the Silmarillion and THEN Lord of the Rings...but I read LotR first (at the nagging of my mother for which I am terribly grateful and for which she regrets her words) and then The Hobbit and then the Sil. Tragedy, really. I would have enjoyed it so much more like that.
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