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Nogrod · 10-12-2010, 01:28 PM

Okay. Now back for the rest of the Day.

And this is just crazy.

Skip's maths probably work - in case he is an innocent and there are four evil-intended votes to come. But if he's not an innocent - and a wolf - and happy with the choices... that would be his best bet to kind of force us to lynch an innocent.

But even if there were four votes to come it is not the end of the game. I'm not sure if the wolves would be too happy to vote in concerto toDay as they'd still need to manage it toMorrow...

Loslote · 10-12-2010, 01:31 PM

I'd suggest voting sooner rather than later. Last-minute voting flurries often end up with cross-posting and confusion. It'd be better, I think, to vote together now (or soon) instead of right at DL.

Nogrod · 10-12-2010, 01:33 PM

To me then...

It could be Lottie whom I have suspected a long time now and whom we have failed to lynch thus far.

It could be Skip whose acts toDay look wolvish - or at least suicidal-cobblerish.

Of others I'm not too sure about.

EDIT: X'd with two votes...

Inziladun · 10-12-2010, 01:34 PM

All right. I guess someone has to take the plunge.

There doesn't seem to be any support for going after Ozban, and neither Greenie nor Lottie look as bad as skip.

++skip

x/d with Boro, Greenie, skip, and Nog

skip spence · 10-12-2010, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Okay. Now back for the rest of the Day.

And this is just crazy.

Skip's maths probably work - in case he is an innocent and there are four evil-intended votes to come. But if he's not an innocent - and a wolf - and happy with the choices... that would be his best bet to kind of force us to lynch an innocent.

But even if there were four votes to come it is not the end of the game. I'm not sure if the wolves would be too happy to vote in concerto toDay as they'd still need to manage it toMorrow...

Nogrod, the cobbler can sit back, wait and follow the wolves lead. They'd know each other toMorrow and be 4 against 3. It would be the end.

skip spence · 10-12-2010, 01:37 PM

Ozzy and Nogrod, now I know you are innocent. Go for Lottie!

skip spence · 10-12-2010, 01:39 PM

Hold on, I miscounted, didn't I? There's still one baddie out there.

Boromir88 · 10-12-2010, 01:40 PM

Simple solution. Tie the vote between Lottie and Skip and let this go to a coin-flip. My heavens both are you are going to be the death of me.

Nogrod · 10-12-2010, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skip spence

Hold on, I miscounted, didn't I? There's still one baddie out there.

What?

Nogrod · 10-12-2010, 01:43 PM

Okay. The last "appeals" by Skip - and the flood of votes - made it quite clear...

++ Skip

Let's see a wolf burn.

Nogrod · 10-12-2010, 01:44 PM

A coin-toss, Boro, really?

Eönwë · 10-12-2010, 01:42 PM

So it's make or break time.

Lottie or Skip, that's the question.

I've found Lottie suspicious the whole time, but toDay she looks a bit better, while with Skip it's the other way 'round.

Eönwë · 10-12-2010, 01:46 PM

Wilwa -> Lottie
Skip -> Greenie
Boro-> Lottie (2)
Greenie -> Skip
Zil -> Skip (2)
Lottie -> Skip (2)
Nog -> Skip (3)

Eönwë · 10-12-2010, 01:48 PM

Ok. That's it. If we go by toDay, with all the revelations and reactions, I think I have to say that:

++Skip

Looks the most evil of the two.

edit: x-ed since my last post.

Loslote · 10-12-2010, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skip spence

Hold on, I miscounted, didn't I? There's still one baddie out there.

Actually, the fact that he forgot about Steve makes it less likely that they're packmates...

EDIT: x'd with a couple of Nogs and a Skip

Nogrod · 10-12-2010, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote

Actually, the fact that he forgot about Steve makes it less likely that they're packmates...

If you miss the number of baddies (the count, the number of them), how come you to a conclusion it was Steve he forgot?

Have I missed something?

Nogrod · 10-12-2010, 01:48 PM

Steve: Skip has four votes, not three...

EDIT: well five...

Loslote · 10-12-2010, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

If you miss the number of baddies (the count, the number of them), how come you to a conclusion it was Steve he forgot?

Have I missed something?

Because he previously said that you and Ozzy were the remaining ordos.

EDIT: x'd with Nog

Ozban · 10-12-2010, 01:50 PM

Did you counted mine?

P.S.: Boro's change of heart, from ignoring skip to coin-flipping is also worth of noting.

Eönwë · 10-12-2010, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozban

Did you counted mine?

Maybe I'm not made for vote-counting.

A Little Green · 10-12-2010, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip

Nogrod, the cobbler can sit back, wait and follow the wolves lead. They'd know each other toMorrow and be 4 against 3. It would be the end.

How can you be so sure in your pessimistic scenario that the cobbler will see who the wolves are?

Loslote · 10-12-2010, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Little Green

How can you be so sure in your pessimistic scenario that the cobbler will see who the wolves are?

Well, it's not that hard to tell at the moment...just follow Skip's lead, ala Boro - who, you'll recall, wanted us to ignore Skip instead of lynching him.

A Little Green · 10-12-2010, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip

Ozzy and Nogrod, now I know you are innocent. Go for Lottie!

How do you "know" they are innocent? Because they haven't voted for you? Has it crossed your mind at all that an innocent might find your actions alarming too?

EDIT: x-ed since my last

Eönwë · 10-12-2010, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Little Green

How do you "know" they are innocent? Because they haven't voted for you? Has it crossed your mind at all that an innocent might find your actions alarming too?

I was just about to say that!

skip spence · 10-12-2010, 01:43 PM

I suppose the cobbler could be missing his mark, Greenie. But I doubt it.

And Nogrod and Eonwe are the remaining ordos...

skip spence · 10-12-2010, 01:47 PM

Argh! Still I don't regret it. I would have been lynched anyway had I not done my fake reveal, quite certain of that. But I am disappointed. If Wilwa had remained hidden we'd gotten a wolf today, or at least been in with a good chance of that. Now it's all over.

Good night!

skip spence · 10-12-2010, 01:49 PM

And it's Holland 4 Sweden 0

Loslote · 10-12-2010, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skip spence

Nogrod, the cobbler can sit back, wait and follow the wolves lead. They'd know each other toMorrow and be 4 against 3. It would be the end.

At the moment, I'm thinking either Boro or Nog is the cobbler, and I'm leaning towards Boro. Thought you ought to know.

Also, don't vote me. Mkay?

EDIT: x'd with Greenie

10-12-2010, 01:28 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Okay. Now back for the rest of the Day. And this is just crazy. Skip's maths probably work - in case he is an innocent and there are four evil-intended votes to come. But if he's not an innocent - and a wolf - and happy with the choices... that would be his best bet to kind of force us to lynch an innocent. But even if there were four votes to come it is not the end of the game. I'm not sure if the wolves would be too happy to vote in concerto toDay as they'd still need to manage it toMorrow... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

10-12-2010, 01:31 PM	#2
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	I'd suggest voting sooner rather than later. Last-minute voting flurries often end up with cross-posting and confusion. It'd be better, I think, to vote together now (or soon) instead of right at DL. __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

10-12-2010, 01:33 PM	#3
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	To me then... It could be Lottie whom I have suspected a long time now and whom we have failed to lynch thus far. It could be Skip whose acts toDay look wolvish - or at least suicidal-cobblerish. Of others I'm not too sure about. EDIT: X'd with two votes... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

10-12-2010, 01:34 PM	#4
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	All right. I guess someone has to take the plunge. There doesn't seem to be any support for going after Ozban, and neither Greenie nor Lottie look as bad as skip. ++skip x/d with Boro, Greenie, skip, and Nog __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God. Last edited by Inziladun; 10-12-2010 at 01:37 PM. Reason: corrected x/post list

10-12-2010, 01:37 PM	#6
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	Ozzy and Nogrod, now I know you are innocent. Go for Lottie! __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

10-12-2010, 01:39 PM	#7
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	Hold on, I miscounted, didn't I? There's still one baddie out there. __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

10-12-2010, 01:40 PM	#8
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Simple solution. Tie the vote between Lottie and Skip and let this go to a coin-flip. My heavens both are you are going to be the death of me. __________________ Fenris Penguin

10-12-2010, 01:43 PM	#10
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Okay. The last "appeals" by Skip - and the flood of votes - made it quite clear... ++ Skip Let's see a wolf burn. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

10-12-2010, 01:44 PM	#11
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	A coin-toss, Boro, really? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

10-12-2010, 01:42 PM	#12
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	So it's make or break time. Lottie or Skip, that's the question. I've found Lottie suspicious the whole time, but toDay she looks a bit better, while with Skip it's the other way 'round. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

10-12-2010, 01:46 PM	#13
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Wilwa -> Lottie Skip -> Greenie Boro-> Lottie (2) Greenie -> Skip Zil -> Skip (2) Lottie -> Skip (2) Nog -> Skip (3) __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

10-12-2010, 01:48 PM	#14
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Ok. That's it. If we go by toDay, with all the revelations and reactions, I think I have to say that: ++Skip Looks the most evil of the two. edit: x-ed since my last post. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

10-12-2010, 01:50 PM	#19
Ozban Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: On the road, again... Posts: 73	Did you counted mine? P.S.: Boro's change of heart, from ignoring skip to coin-flipping is also worth of noting. __________________ Let us sit upon the ground, and tell sad stories of the death of kings. - Shakespeare (Richard II)

10-12-2010, 01:47 PM	#26
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	Argh! Still I don't regret it. I would have been lynched anyway had I not done my fake reveal, quite certain of that. But I am disappointed. If Wilwa had remained hidden we'd gotten a wolf today, or at least been in with a good chance of that. Now it's all over. Good night! __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

10-12-2010, 01:49 PM	#27
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	And it's Holland 4 Sweden 0 __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan