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Shade of Carn Dûm
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In my time as a youngster and as a leader in a youth organisation, I've learned, played and taught a few dozen military-style bugle calls used during camps.
Just like the Buckland alarm call, most of them have words associated with them. The words help the bugler remember the tune and help the hearers remember what the tune means. |
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Stormdancer of Doom
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For instance, we are all familiar with "Taps". Here is one set of lyrics for "Taps": "Day is done, gone the sun From the lakes, from the hills, from the trees All is well, Safely rest, God is nigh" So while we usually call that tune "Taps", we might also call it "Day is done". It means, either, Sunset... or a Burial. We all know it.
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Wikipedia has an interesting article on Reveille. It includes lyrics, which I now recall, that start with "I can't get 'em up." (U.S. Version.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reveille Bugle calls in general, in which IMO Taps is sadly neglected: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugle_call (But I now do remember "Soupy.")
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Newly Deceased
Join Date: Sep 2010
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See my first post– why create something magical that only does what the mundane version could do just as easily?
Nerwen- like cufflinks? Or why not have them "know" when you want them removed, instead of asking them? |
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Wisest of the Noldor
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Okay, but that's more of "gimmick" magical item– a toy, really. And you haven't answered any of my other points.
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Gruesome Spectre
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The cufflinks you're referring to were not a product of Hobbit design, but were said to have been given to the Old Took by Gandalf. Hobbits didn't make magical items themselves.
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Music alone proves the existence of God. Last edited by Inziladun; 09-03-2010 at 07:18 AM. Reason: x-posted with Nerwen |
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Wisest of the Noldor
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So that's alright... except that there's no evidence whatever that this horn existed at all. And Alman, I hate to pick on newbies, but you really are jumping the gun on this one. Before you begin the speculation on how the Talking Horn worked, where it came from and what it sounded like, how about proving that there was a Talking Horn?
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Ah. Sorry, I missed that.
In the interest of a pedantic argument, I would wonder why, if there was anything special about the horn used to sound the call, why the wording in the book says that the "horn-call of Buckland" is heard, and not something like the "Horn of Buckland", to note it wasn't an ordinary horn?
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