WW LXXX: It's About Time!

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Erm, when? I mean thanks for the advice but it simply wasn't possible. Are we having communication issues here or something? I couldn't get on until I did.

Yes but you came here more than an hour before the deadline and posted more or less regularly right until the deadline. I know you can't really help your connection dying, rather I was wondering why you wanted to hold your vote till the last possible minute - especially if you know you don't have the best of net connections.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Not to me. Why do you think that?

I was eyeing the narration while talking to my friends & not paying enough attention, and I got the impression Boro met his killer when opening the door to the room of the one he protected instead of his own door. You can basically just ignore that comment...

she actually didn't really "speak out strongly" against lynching The Wolf-Warrior – it was a pretty mild, non-committal defence, such as I thought a prudent wolf might perhaps try at the last minute.

Yes but it wasn't only that - it's also that she actually repeated yesterday that she felt bad about how he was lynched. To me it didn't look like a wolfish thing to do - I mean, why draw more attention to yourself by defending your dead fellow?

[Aganzir]

On day 1 Boro made those armpit pickle jokes, saying armpits are ordinary if shaved. As far as I've seen, he tends not to shave his, so my initial thought was "Hey is he claiming to be a gifted?", but I wonder if the wolves would actually have fallen for that, given that he often drops gifted hints on day 1 (especially if he isn't one).

He didn't want to lynch Fea, me, or Pitch, and his top suspects (clarified on day 2) were sally, Lottie and wilwa. He saved Fea by voting EW. If the wolves wanted to go after the seer, Boro's death makes Fea look good.

Originally Posted by Boro

Barring we have a ranger with some good wits, someone's going to die each night

He spent most of his day 2 explaining what he wouldn't do as a wolf, but he pointed out (rather late) that he felt much better about skip than the previous day. Again, if the wolves were aiming at the seer, skip looks better. Or sally looks worse because he voted for her.

It could be argued he looked seerish because he didn't seem to have very strong opinions on anybody, and when he said something more definite about people, he was only talking of one or two at a time. It also made him leave few trails, though.

I see three options:
a) the wolves thought he was the seer. Fea is innocent, skip is innocent ("feel much better about him than yesterday" without a further explanation can easily be interpreted as "I got extra information during the night".) or sally is evil. Once again I don't know how paranoid the remaining wolves are, but in this scenario, the possibility of a skip dream looks more likely to me than a sally dream.
b) Boro looked relatively innocent because of his EW vote and was considered a trailless kill because he never spoke much about anybody but himself.
c) the wolves took eg. the quote posted above as a ranger hint. I admit I got ranger vibes when I first read it, basically because people dare to be more questioning (or even rude) about the skills and abilities of a certain role if they're talking about themselves, if you know what I mean.

I'd still like to go through what others said of Boro and how the voting went, but I have to wake up ridiculously early compared to what time it is now.

[Aganzir]

Option D: the wolves wanted to frame an innocent sally, or maybe even make (wolfish?) Fea and/or skip look better. Boro would've been a very convenient kill if one of them is a wolf.

Bedtime!

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Yes but you came here more than an hour before the deadline and posted more or less regularly right until the deadline. I know you can't really help your connection dying, rather I was wondering why you wanted to hold your vote till the last possible minute - especially if you know you don't have the best of net connections.

My connection had been working fine (well, not THAT bad) since I got home, so I assumed I wouldn't have issues. It's not like I could predict that it would suddenly hiccup around DL.


Anyway, I must say that I'm feeling poorly about Eomer, which isn't much of a surprise. In fact, if I can put forth a theory, I'd like to point out his random vote for Greenie. Not random as in without any sort of reason, but random as in she didn't have any other votes, and he says he's not happy going between Lottie and Wilwa. From this I draw the following conclusions (that involve him being a wolf).

• Eomer and Greenie are partners and he voted her in hopes that if he was killed she would be less suspected.
• Eomer and Lottie are partners and he was trying to make sure that there was a more acceptable secondary candidate in case votes swung away from Wilwa.
• Eomer and Greenie are partners and Eomer's insane.
• Eomer is not a partner with Greenie (Lottie is irrelevant here) and he thought Wilwa might be the cobbler, so he tried to create another candidate to draw votes away from his "assistant". (Perhaps he thought the same as Nerwen, that she was unhappy about Elf's lynch because she thought him a wolf.)
• Eomer's a giant pool noodle and me saying this means I need some sleep.

And with that I'm getting a drink. I mustn't stay up too much longer, but I'll see what else I think of before I pop off to sleep.

[Loslote]

I'm inclined to think that Boro was more of a trailless kill, but who can fathom the warped minds of the evil?

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

(Lottie is irrelevant here)

Lottie is never irrelevant, Sallycake. But I do agree with you that these three are most likely:

Eomer and Greenie are partners and he voted her in hopes that if he was killed she would be less suspected.

Eomer and Greenie are partners and Eomer's insane.

Eomer's a giant pool noodle

[Inziladun]

Just a quick note to say that I find this

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Eomer's a giant pool noodle

extremely amusing.

[satansaloser2005]

I live to serve, oh modly one.






Also, silly me, I just saw/remembered that Lottie voted for Eomer. If they were packmates, she'd be headdesking pretty hard right now. I'm fairly certain she wouldn't wolf-on-wolf at that stage, not when Wilwa was such a certain lynch. There'd be no reason for it and I can't see Lottie doing it anyway.



Also also, quick announcement. I'll be gone the last third or so of the Day, which means I'll be voting somewhere in the next 12-14 hours. Sorry for any inconvenience, etc., etc., but I'm not sure I'll be back and I want to keep my modfire-less record fully intact.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Yes but it wasn't only that - it's also that she actually repeated yesterday that she felt bad about how he was lynched. To me it didn't look like a wolfish thing to do - I mean, why draw more attention to yourself by defending your dead fellow?

Wilwa's been known to make some rather rash statements in the heat of the moment before, though. I mean last game she (then a wolf) went on about how nobody should reveal because it would make it too easy for the village.

About Greenie and skip: I can hardly judge them for voting the same way I did, but I don't like the fact that neither of them seemed to pay attention to my reservations.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

On day 1 Boro made those armpit pickle jokes, saying armpits are ordinary if shaved. As far as I've seen, he tends not to shave his, so my initial thought was "Hey is he claiming to be a gifted?", but I wonder if the wolves would actually have fallen for that, given that he often drops gifted hints on day 1 (especially if he isn't one).

Not "often". Always. But they didn't kill him on Night 2 anyway.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

He didn't want to lynch Fea, me, or Pitch, and his top suspects (clarified on day 2) were sally, Lottie and wilwa. He saved Fea by voting EW. If the wolves wanted to go after the seer, Boro's death makes Fea look good.

Up to a point. If the wolves thought he'd dreamed EW, then he couldn't have dreamed Fea too, could he?

Originally Posted by Loslote

I'm inclined to think that Boro was more of a trailless kill, but who can fathom the warped minds of the evil?

Not just a trailless kill, if he was– the fact that he'd voted EW on Day One gives the pack a reason to kill him, regardless of anything else.

Originally Posted by Loslote

So, Eomer voted for Greenie, which was, at that point, a throw-away vote. No one had really expressed suspicion of her, and Vanilwuffin was by far the leading lynch candidate. This could well have been a wolf clearing his hands of what he knew to be a bandwagon against someone who wasn't a wolf. So far, Eomer does, in my opinion, look like a Big Bad Wolf.

Quite possibly. However his "vendetta" (if that's what it was) against the EW voters really would be foolhardy for a wolf– more so than anything Wilwa did.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Quite possibly. However his "vendetta" (if that's what it was) against the EW voters really would be foolhardy for a wolf– more so than anything Wilwa did.

Or it could be a double bluff. No one would expect a wolf to be that obvious, so his behavior, and him, are written off. Is Eomer known for being tricksy?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Or it could be a double bluff. No one would expect a wolf to be that obvious, so his behavior, and him, are written off. Is Eomer known for being tricksy?

As an ordo or gifted he's generally pretty straight forward. Can't recall what he's like as a wolf, actually. I don't think he's been one for ages.