WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

the phantom · 08-05-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sally

One problem with that though. The wolves couldn't have done that, because Hades wasn't allowed to say who his beloved was. I'm just sayin'.

But the Wolves could have figured it out even easier than I did due to the fact that they knew precisely who Hades was (so his hint would've been easy to find).

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Originally Posted by Sally

And maybe Greenie just didn't suspect Nerwen. Think of that?

Someone already made that point!

And my counter-point was- Greenie knew who Persephone was, therefore she knew that person was not a Wolf. So why list them as a Wolf? The fact is everyone here besides Nerwen was at one time or another on Greenie's radar. Would it make any sense for her to do that to Persephone? Especially when she knew good and well that, upon her death, everyone would look at her posts to see who Persephone was?

It makes no logical sense.

the phantom · 08-05-2010, 04:39 PM

Shasta just voted for Mira.

If both are innocent, then the game is over. The Wolves and Lover merely need to tack their votes onto that vote.

But, you will observe that nothing of the sort happens. One of them is bad. Guarantee.

I've shown why it's very very likely Shasta. Can anyone make a similarly strong case for Mira utilizing known roles? If not, then you know which way to vote.

satansaloser2005 · 08-05-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Shasta just voted for Mira.

If both are innocent, then the game is over. The Wolves and Lover merely need to tack their votes onto that vote.

But, you will observe that nothing of the sort happens. One of them is bad. Guarantee.

I've shown why it's very very likely Shasta. Can anyone make a similarly strong case for Mira utilizing known roles? If not, then you know which way to vote.

I'm pretty sure Shasta's not Hades. Rather, I'm really thinking he's Hephaestus, and he can't be both, so....you know.

I need to look over the voting record (now that I can compile it all, since someone *cough* Phantom *cough* did nothing to help with that all afternoon) in full.

Oh, and we're not done yet. Let's just make sure we all swing in the right direction.

satansaloser2005 · 08-05-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Greenie knew who Persephone was, therefore she knew that person was not a Wolf. So why list them as a Wolf? The fact is everyone here besides Nerwen was at one time or another on Greenie's radar. Would it make any sense for her to do that to Persephone? Especially when she knew good and well that, upon her death, everyone would look at her posts to see who Persephone was?

I've listed people I trust before as suspects. People who are moderately suspected are less likely to be Night kills, and thus are safer. So yes, you could be right, but I don't think we should plan our entire Day around that fact, at least not without everyone looking into it for themselves.

EDIT: x'd with Phantom

the phantom · 08-05-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sally

So yes, you could be right, but I don't think we should plan our entire Day around that fact

So, we shouldn't plan our day around the best piece of evidence that we have?

Show me any other knowledge available to us. Seer dreams? Nope.

The only concrete thing we have to go on is that Greenie KNEW for a FACT who Persephone was. Reading her posts, the extremely obvious conclusion is that Persy is Nerwen.

Sorry, m'dear, but that is by far and away the only logical place to start.

satansaloser2005 · 08-05-2010, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

So, we shouldn't plan our day around the best piece of evidence that we have?

Show me any other knowledge available to us. Seer dreams? Nope.

The only concrete thing we have to go on is that Greenie KNEW for a FACT who Persephone was. Reading her posts, the extremely obvious conclusion is that Persy is Nerwen.

Sorry, m'dear, but that is by far and away the only logical place to start.

No, I mean we shouldn't take your word on said piece of evidence. Big difference.

Love you too, Phantom, darling.

the phantom · 08-05-2010, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sally

I'm pretty sure Shasta's not Hades. Rather, I'm really thinking he's Hephaestus, and he can't be both, so....you know.

So, you don't think he's this Wolf, but rather that Wolf.

A Wolf is a Wolf. Vote for him.

satansaloser2005 · 08-05-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

So, you don't think he's this Wolf, but rather that Wolf.

A Wolf is a Wolf. Vote for him.

No no no no no. See my "kill Hades" post earlier this afternoon for why it actually matters which wolf we get toDay.

the phantom · 08-05-2010, 04:55 PM

Guess what? It's time for me to leave for softball, and I can't be absolutely certain that I'll be back before deadline. So...

++ Shasta

If I am wrong, the game is over, because the 2 Wolves and Lover will just pile on.

If I am right, and anyone innocent votes for someone other than Shasta, the game is over.

Have fun, guys.

satansaloser2005 · 08-05-2010, 04:56 PM

*blinks*

I just lost the game. o_O

*gulps*

Anybody there?

Nerwen · 08-05-2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Reading her posts, the extremely obvious conclusion is that Persy is Nerwen

It may be obvious to you, tp... but I notice you consistently dodge my question. That is, how to explain Mac's trying to lynch me, from Greenie-Demeter's perspective? Now, there are characters who could have afforded to play like that on Day One, but not, I think, that particular pair. Also, reading back I notice you made a very forceful case for Mac's being Hades yourself, and maybe Greenie was following that.

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Shasta could be Hephaestus, for the opposite reason. He voted to bring Steve to three votes (to BG’s five at the time) and after that more people started to vote for Steve. This was almost certainly a bandwagon vote to save BG, and why else would he save her? She was his lover.

...And this is perfectly good reasoning, too. So yeah, he might be a wolf. I mean, he's done so little this game, he could be anything. But– for obvious reasons– I'm not exactly willing to vote him on phantom's say-so.

Also, this:

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So, you don't think he's this Wolf, but rather that Wolf.

A Wolf is a Wolf. Vote for him.

No no no no no. See my "kill Hades" post earlier this afternoon for why it actually matters which wolf we get toDay.

Meanwhile Lal's jumping on Mira, just as she jumped on Kath... and Mira seems to be trying to think of a role she can safely reveal as. Neither of them looks all that shining-clean to me.

EDIT:X'd with Mira and Sally.

satansaloser2005 · 08-05-2010, 08:38 PM

Personally I think you're all evil.

Nerwen · 08-05-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Personally I think you're all evil.

What, leaving yourself out?

satansaloser2005 · 08-05-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

What, leaving yourself out?

Well I was going to explain my views on everyone, but then I wanted to make myself a snack. Then I realized that I didn't really need to post all that anyway, because you guys will be making me a snack later anyway.

Bad!pun is bad. Tired!Sally is tired.

Keeper of Dol Guldur · 08-05-2010, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Meanwhile Lal's jumping on Mira, just as she jumped on Kath... and Mira seems to be trying to think of a role she can safely reveal as. Neither of them looks all that shining-clean to me.

EDIT:X'd with Mira and Sally.

Ooor you don't know how awful my memory is. Ask Nienna, Fea, Lari, Alona, Shasta, wilwa, Glirdy, Formy...well you get the point. My memory is awful.

08-05-2010, 04:39 PM	#2
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Shasta just voted for Mira. If both are innocent, then the game is over. The Wolves and Lover merely need to tack their votes onto that vote. But, you will observe that nothing of the sort happens. One of them is bad. Guarantee. I've shown why it's very very likely Shasta. Can anyone make a similarly strong case for Mira utilizing known roles? If not, then you know which way to vote. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

08-05-2010, 04:55 PM	#9
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Guess what? It's time for me to leave for softball, and I can't be absolutely certain that I'll be back before deadline. So... ++ Shasta If I am wrong, the game is over, because the 2 Wolves and Lover will just pile on. If I am right, and anyone innocent votes for someone other than Shasta, the game is over. Have fun, guys. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

08-05-2010, 04:56 PM	#10
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	blinks I just lost the game. o_O gulps Anybody there? __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

08-05-2010, 08:38 PM	#12
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Personally I think you're all evil. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.