WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Ping! Is this too obvious to be a Dionysus hint? (Like I should talk about lack of subtlety. )

Why, yes, I should say so.

Kath's fairly experienced, isn't she? Any one who's experienced and who has the Dionysus role would keep quiet, lest the villagers suspect them and kill them beforet he wolves get to them. I mean, honestly. Who would throw it blatantly out there? "Kill me! Kill me!" No one is quite that sacrificial, even if they do want the villagers to win.

-- Foley

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Why, yes, I should say so.

Kath's fairly experienced, isn't she? Any one who's experienced and who has the Dionysus role would keep quiet, lest the villagers suspect them and kill them beforet he wolves get to them. I mean, honestly. Who would throw it blatantly out there? "Kill me! Kill me!" No one is quite that sacrificial, even if they do want the villagers to win.

-- Foley

The cursed isn't evil until they're turned. We've not been informed that they're turned, so they're in effect still an ordo. Thus, it's not really "kill me, kill me".

Thus, if Kath is Dionysus, we shouldn't lynch her....yet. We need to keep an eye out for them, though, because if the wolves turn them we'll be in a bit of a pickle.

However, Kath's other posts have been appearing wolfish to me the more I look at them. She could be dropping fake Dionysus hints (or she could have thought Dun was Dionysus and was trying to hint to him....

POST INTERRUPTED. PARENTHESES BE....BE DEADED.

Kath's totally a wolf. No joke, she has to be. She hinted at Dun with the drunkenness so he'd know she was a wolf when he got turned last Night. Except he wasn't turned, he was killed.

PLEASE tell me this makes sense outside of my head?!?!

Crap. I have to go or I'll be late back to work. But I'm totally exploring this later.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Kath's totally a wolf. No joke, she has to be. She hinted at Dun with the drunkenness so he'd know she was a wolf when he got turned last Night. Except he wasn't turned, he was killed.

PLEASE tell me this makes sense outside of my head?!?!

Sally, why would she need to let him know she's a wolf?

Originally Posted by The Rules

Dionysus – God of Wine – Dionysus is the Cursed. If the Wolves choose to Night kill him, he will join their ranks. Only the player and I will know that they are Dionysus. I will not reveal the Cursed until the end of the game.

Are you taking this to mean that Dionysus wouldn't be made known to the other wolves even after being turned? I'm not getting that from it.

That said, it does look like a hint. I'd say too obvious to be real, except for the liberal use of the subtlety mace we've already seen throughout this game.

–While we're on the subject, what's your story, Sally? With all the not-exactly-subliminal hinting, I mean?

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Sally

The cursed isn't evil until they're turned. We've not been informed that they're turned, so they're in effect still an ordo. Thus, it's not really "kill me, kill me".

Thus, if Kath is Dionysus, we shouldn't lynch her....yet. We need to keep an eye out for them, though, because if the wolves turn them we'll be in a bit of a pickle.

Wait, what? It seems to me that if the villagers know who Dionysus is, the wolves also know who he is, and therefore the wolves would know their next night's kill. In order to save the village from being plagued by another wolf, the villagers may as well kill thek nown Dionysus as wait until he's turned into a wolf - if, that is, they don't know of any real wolves to kill.

But I kind of see your point...provided we can find a real wolf, killing Dionysus would be pointless and would be killing an ordo.

However, I stll don't think Kath is Dionysus. A wolf? Maybe. I'll go read her posts.

Originally Posted by Sally

Kath's totally a wolf. No joke, she has to be. She hinted at Dun with the drunkenness so he'd know she was a wolf when he got turned last Night. Except he wasn't turned, he was killed.

PLEASE tell me this makes sense outside of my head?!?!

No, it doesn't. Not really. I'll look into it.

-- Foley

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Kath's fairly experienced, isn't she? Any one who's experienced and who has the Dionysus role would keep quiet, lest the villagers suspect them and kill them beforet he wolves get to them. I mean, honestly. Who would throw it blatantly out there? "Kill me! Kill me!" No one is quite that sacrificial, even if they do want the villagers to win.

False. It is in fact probable that Dionsysus wishes to be turned, and thus he would have no qualms about shouting it out. And if we lynch him, so what? It's not as if that hurts the Werewolves. Dionysus is a bit of a Cobbler I'd say. And again, Dionsysus may already be dead, so it doesn't do us much good to worry about him.

And just a reminder- the last post I made *points up 7 posts* is by far the most useful thing that has been said today. You'd better not ignore it for too long or it will be obvious that you're not particularly interested in figuring out who people are.

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by the phantom

And just a reminder- the last post I made *points up 7 posts* is by far the most useful thing that has been said today. You'd better not ignore it for too long or it will be obvious that you're not particularly interested in figuring out who people are.

Well, I've found who Mac referred to. I'll look now to see who Greenie thought it was....

Ah. I see your point. I think I kind of understand. Persephone had to find out who Hades was, but Hades already knew who Persephone was. Therefore, no matter how early in the game Persephone was killed, Hades could still take a revenge kill - he didn't have to wait until he found her, I mean.

If Nerwen is indeed Persephone...killing Nerwen would be a very bad thing. But how are we certain that Greenie knew who she was talking about?

-- Foley

[Folwren]

I have a question that I've had for a few days now - how do we know Hestia chose one of the seers?

[the phantom]

But how are we certain that Greenie knew who she was talking about?

The primary point of Greenie's role was that she was told by the Mod from the beginning who Persephone was (Greenie was Demeter).