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LadyBrooke · 07-13-2010, 10:53 PM

I think he'll stay. While he may be exasperated with the film makers he has to know that if he drops out it would break some fans hearts.

What worries me is that according to some articles the White Council is going to be shown on screen. We know the Saruman, Galadriel, Cirdan, and Elrond were on it with Gandalf. Since five people would be pretty small for a council, it's been speculated about who else is on it. I've heard Gildor, Glorfindel, Erestor, Celeborn, Thranduil, Galdorn, and Radagast all speculated as possible members. While for most of those it would be no problem because they weren't in the first movies in any recognizable form (trading cards don't count) Saruman, Galadriel, Elrond, and Celeborn all represent problems.

Galadriel played by Cate Blanchett could still pull off the eternally youthful elf. So, unless the movies are delayed for another decade, it's not a big problem.

Celeborn: Okay, I had trouble believing Marton Csokas as an elf lord in the Fellowship of the Ring. I sincerly doubt that now that he is a decade older (he'll be 46 in 2012) I could believe him as an elf.

Elrond: Hugo Weaving is 50 this year. He looked too old for Elrond in Lord of the Rings. Now he would look way too old.

Saruman: Christopher Lee is 88. While he is still filming movies, there is going to come a time when he isn't able to film any more.

Quite frankly if they don't start filming soon they're going to have to find a completely new cast because all the original actors will be too old.

PrinceOfTheHalflings · 07-14-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyBrooke

I think he'll stay. While he may be exasperated with the film makers he has to know that if he drops out it would break some fans hearts.

I am absolutely certain that he is extremely frustrated with the delays. However, I doubt that he'd just abandon the entire project because of that, so yes, I agree.

They could probably do a little makeup trickery to make Hugo Weaving look a little younger for Elrond. He's not in the film that much anyway. I'd imagine that Celeborn would get minimal screen time, if at all. The tricky one is definitely going to be Saruman. However, since they're going to have to cast a new Bilbo anyway, I suppose they can get a new Saruman too.

LadyBrooke · 07-14-2010, 10:03 AM

They could get a new actor to play Saruman but, to me, Christopher Lee is Saruman. I can't imagine any one playing him better. Plus, he is a Tolkien fan. I think movies are better when the actor genuinely enjoys the story being told.

Morthoron · 07-14-2010, 07:44 PM

If they wait much longer with The Hobbit, most of the original cast will be dead from old age.

LadyBrooke · 07-14-2010, 10:24 PM

Not dead just senile. Come on folks, we can see Agent Elrond chase dwarfs off his lawn while hitting them with a cane. Or Celeborn going, "In my day we didn't have a pansy dark lord. No siree, we had the real *beep*ing deal. Morgoth was his *beep*ing name. And we had no help from these *beep* Maiar just Melian. And then those *beep*ing Noldor had to come over here with their *beep* jewels and kill half of our *beep* country. " And Orlando can play Thranduil and we find out that he's having an affair with Galadriel who is fed up with Celeborn and has decided to get herself a boy toy.

And then the ghost of Tolkien will come and kill everybody connected to the movie.

Blind Guardian · 07-14-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyBrooke

Not dead just senile. Come on folks, we can see Agent Elrond chase dwarfs off his lawn while hitting them with a cane. Or Celeborn going, "In my day we didn't have a pansy dark lord. No siree, we had the real *beep*ing deal. Morgoth was his *beep*ing name. And we had no help from these *beep* Maiar just Melian. And then those *beep*ing Noldor had to come over here with their *beep* jewels and kill half of our *beep* country. " And Orlando can play Thranduil and we find out that he's having an affair with Galadriel who is fed up with Celeborn and has decided to get herself a boy toy.

And then the ghost of Tolkien will come and kill everybody connected to the movie.

And then Melkor comes back and ends up dying, not of War, not of Manwë, but of laugher!

Tuor in Gondolin · 07-15-2010, 12:45 PM

Didn't Christopher Lee part on less then warm terms
with PJ and friends? But he could handle a role that
could all be done sitting down at the Council, unless
of course PJ wants Gandalf and him to fly around
attacking various nazgul with their staffs.

I would also think a few dunadain should be at the council.
Perhaps Strider's father or granddad.

07-13-2010, 10:53 PM	#1
LadyBrooke Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The modern day version of Edoras: horses, wind, rolling plains =) Posts: 507	I think he'll stay. While he may be exasperated with the film makers he has to know that if he drops out it would break some fans hearts. What worries me is that according to some articles the White Council is going to be shown on screen. We know the Saruman, Galadriel, Cirdan, and Elrond were on it with Gandalf. Since five people would be pretty small for a council, it's been speculated about who else is on it. I've heard Gildor, Glorfindel, Erestor, Celeborn, Thranduil, Galdorn, and Radagast all speculated as possible members. While for most of those it would be no problem because they weren't in the first movies in any recognizable form (trading cards don't count) Saruman, Galadriel, Elrond, and Celeborn all represent problems. Galadriel played by Cate Blanchett could still pull off the eternally youthful elf. So, unless the movies are delayed for another decade, it's not a big problem. Celeborn: Okay, I had trouble believing Marton Csokas as an elf lord in the Fellowship of the Ring. I sincerly doubt that now that he is a decade older (he'll be 46 in 2012) I could believe him as an elf. Elrond: Hugo Weaving is 50 this year. He looked too old for Elrond in Lord of the Rings. Now he would look way too old. Saruman: Christopher Lee is 88. While he is still filming movies, there is going to come a time when he isn't able to film any more. Quite frankly if they don't start filming soon they're going to have to find a completely new cast because all the original actors will be too old. __________________ Busy, Busy, Busy...hoping for more free time soon.

07-14-2010, 10:03 AM	#3
LadyBrooke Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The modern day version of Edoras: horses, wind, rolling plains =) Posts: 507	They could get a new actor to play Saruman but, to me, Christopher Lee is Saruman. I can't imagine any one playing him better. Plus, he is a Tolkien fan. I think movies are better when the actor genuinely enjoys the story being told. __________________ Busy, Busy, Busy...hoping for more free time soon.

07-14-2010, 07:44 PM	#4
Morthoron Curmudgeonly Wordwraith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits Posts: 2,515	If they wait much longer with The Hobbit, most of the original cast will be dead from old age. __________________ And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.

07-14-2010, 10:24 PM	#5
LadyBrooke Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The modern day version of Edoras: horses, wind, rolling plains =) Posts: 507	Not dead just senile. Come on folks, we can see Agent Elrond chase dwarfs off his lawn while hitting them with a cane. Or Celeborn going, "In my day we didn't have a pansy dark lord. No siree, we had the real beeping deal. Morgoth was his beeping name. And we had no help from these beep Maiar just Melian. And then those beeping Noldor had to come over here with their beep jewels and kill half of our beep country. " And Orlando can play Thranduil and we find out that he's having an affair with Galadriel who is fed up with Celeborn and has decided to get herself a boy toy. And then the ghost of Tolkien will come and kill everybody connected to the movie. __________________ Busy, Busy, Busy...hoping for more free time soon.

07-15-2010, 12:45 PM	#7
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Didn't Christopher Lee part on less then warm terms with PJ and friends? But he could handle a role that could all be done sitting down at the Council, unless of course PJ wants Gandalf and him to fly around attacking various nazgul with their staffs. I would also think a few dunadain should be at the council. Perhaps Strider's father or granddad. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'