Did Rohan annex Enedwaith in the Fourth Age ?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by garm

It seems to me that if one is going to presume to write something on a wiki, then it's up to that person to get it right. To come to your next point; the fact that folk do work from memory, or guess, is not a safe basis for copying bits from other wikis.

I didn't say it was, or that it's not an issue; I'm just saying, I don't think people generally make things up on purpose. The problem is too much garbled copying, plus the fact that the second-level source that starts the whole thing off often does sound authoritative, giving chapter and verse for everything... but may leave out fairly important points, such as that it's actually from a first draft quoted in "Appendix B, Note 5: Other versions of the text".

Originally Posted by Findegil

I agree with Gram that one should read the books before going to write a wiki article. But with such Middle-Earth questions as discussed here that would restrict the authors heavely.

Mmmn... but would that be a bad thing? I mean, mostly people consult these things with the assumption that the author knows something they don't.

[Findegil]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Mmmn... but would that be a bad thing? I mean, mostly people consult these things with the assumption that the author knows something they don't.

To be more clear: the authorship of the wiki would be restricted. The authors themself as well, but that effect is for sure disarable. But only a view poeple qualified to write will make the development of a wiki very slow. That is not bad in itself it is only not what most poeple starting such a project want.

Respectfuly
Findegil

[The Mouth of Sauron]

As an update to whether Rohan annexed Enedwaith in the Fourth Age, I also distinctly remember some reference somewhere to Rohan at the same time also expanding northwards over the Limlight to the southern eaves of Lorien AND eastwards over the Anduin from the Wold into the Brown Lands.

Anyone read these stories too ?

[Elmo]

Did the 'numerous fisher folk' of Enedwaith have much say in whoever annexed them? It's a bit dodgy also Rohan expanding their borders to the lands between the Isen and the Adorn as the loyalty of the people of this land was generally directed towards Dunland. Aragorn and Eomer weren't people who believed in self-determination obviously.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Elmo

Did the 'numerous fisher folk' of Enedwaith have much say in whoever annexed them? It's a bit dodgy also Rohan expanding their borders to the lands between the Isen and the Adorn as the loyalty of the people of this land was generally directed towards Dunland. Aragorn and Eomer weren't people who believed in self-determination obviously.

A'right 'en min, Elmo min?

Well... they were kings so I don't exactly think that the concerns of fisherfolk bothered them too much.

[The Mouth of Sauron]

http://www.lotrplaza.com/archives/in...Age&TID=191966

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by The Mouth of Sauron

As an update to whether Rohan annexed Enedwaith in the Fourth Age, I also distinctly remember some reference somewhere to Rohan at the same time also expanding northwards over the Limlight to the southern eaves of Lorien AND eastwards over the Anduin from the Wold into the Brown Lands.

Anyone read these stories too ?

I don't recall anything like that. It's difficult to see the Rohirrim taking territory to which they had no right, or without the inhabitants of the area asking them.
Also, did they really need to do so? I don't remember anything that indicated they were on the verge of outgrowing their Third Age boundaries.

x/d with Elmo