A Classic Era LOTR Movie - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

JoltFlame · 07-03-2010, 06:48 PM

I hope not they will remake the trilogy, those three movies are unique and ought to stay that way.

Pitchwife · 07-03-2010, 07:27 PM

I do hope they will remake the trilogy in my lifetime

. As the Hobbit saying goes, "Third time pays for all", so maybe someone will finally get it right.

So, supposing the creators will have access to a time machine:

Either Greta Garbo or Marlene Dietrich as Galadriel;
Sir Alec Guinness (in his later years) as Gandalf instead of Obi-wan Kenobi. (He once said himself that the similarity between the two was what attracted him to the role in the first place, so why not play the original?)
Hellmut Lange as Aragorn (see here); but Charlton Heston would be a nice second choice;
Peter Cushing as Denethor;
and last not least...
Klaus Kinski as Gollum!

Archaic Elf · 07-04-2010, 01:27 AM

Klaus Kinski as Gollum would be the icing on the cake. That would be amazing to see. I was a huge fan of Nosferatu ('79), a visual masterpiece. The soundtrack for that film gets stuck in your head easily.

Wow, I just found this parody. Lord of the Rings Movie of 1940. This isn't what I had in mind, but it's great:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xruJ...eature=related

Rumil · 07-04-2010, 03:25 AM

Archaic Elf,

that's an excellent link!

from the 60s-70s I reckon Pitchwife has it spot on for Alec Guiness as Gandalf, also

Clint Eastwood as Aragorn
Dustin Hoffman as Frodo
James Mason as Bilbo

Morthoron · 07-04-2010, 05:47 PM

Well, if you're going to have Bela Lugosi as Saruman, how about Dwight Fry as Grima Wormtongue? He was the best Renfield of all time! He might even be a good Gollum. Except for being dead, of course.

Archaic Elf · 07-04-2010, 11:02 PM

You're right, Dwight Fry would be a great Wormtongue. Fry is excellent at behaving rather bold and being full of himself when he is dealing with the orderlies and security guard, but he turns sedate and cowardly whenever Lugosi appears before him. It's fantastic the way his persona shifts in certain scenes in Dracula, and that's a talent that's necessary for depicting Gollum, especially in scenes when Golllum loses his temper with Sam.

Karloff would be better in another role...Treebeard? I like the way Karloff and Lugosi interact in the few movies they worked on together, which is particularly cool since they weren't close in reality.

Alec Guinness as Gandalf would be great to see. Guinness and Karloff squaring off against Lugosi and Fry at Orthanc would be brilliant.

***Mister Underhill*** · 07-04-2010, 11:34 PM

Well I had to reach all the way back to the long-defunct but still hanging in there EZBoard incarnation of the Downs to find it, but I still think my late 60s era all-star action extravaganza cast is pretty good:

Bilbo -- Sir Alec Guinness
Frodo -- Peter O'Toole
Sam -- Gene Hackman
Merry -- Michael Caine
Pippin -- Donald Sutherland
Gandalf -- Sir John Gielgud
Aragorn -- Clint Eastwood (or you could go William Holden)
Legolas -- Robert Redford
Gimli -- Telly Savalas (or George Kennedy)
Denethor -- Yul Brynner
Theoden -- Carroll O'Connor
Boromir -- Charles Bronson
Faramir -- Steve McQueen
Wormtongue -- Robert Vaughn (or Dennis Hopper)
Arwen -- Raquel Welch
Saruman -- Henry Fonda
Gollum -- Don Rickles
Galadriel -- Jane Fonda
Éomer -- James Coburn
Orcs -- Eli Wallach, Ben Johnson, Bruce Dern, Strother Martin

I note some overlap with previous posters -- great minds and all that.

Follow the link if you dare for other variations, including a black cast (Denzel as Aragorn

) and a made-for-TV cast (Hasselhoff as Aragorn

).

07-03-2010, 07:27 PM	#2
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	I do hope they will remake the trilogy in my lifetime. As the Hobbit saying goes, "Third time pays for all", so maybe someone will finally get it right. So, supposing the creators will have access to a time machine: Either Greta Garbo or Marlene Dietrich as Galadriel; Sir Alec Guinness (in his later years) as Gandalf instead of Obi-wan Kenobi. (He once said himself that the similarity between the two was what attracted him to the role in the first place, so why not play the original?) Hellmut Lange as Aragorn (see here); but Charlton Heston would be a nice second choice; Peter Cushing as Denethor; and last not least... Klaus Kinski as Gollum! __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

07-04-2010, 03:25 AM	#4
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	Play it again Samwise Archaic Elf, that's an excellent link! from the 60s-70s I reckon Pitchwife has it spot on for Alec Guiness as Gandalf, also Clint Eastwood as Aragorn Dustin Hoffman as Frodo James Mason as Bilbo __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

07-04-2010, 05:47 PM	#5
Morthoron Curmudgeonly Wordwraith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits Posts: 2,515	Well, if you're going to have Bela Lugosi as Saruman, how about Dwight Fry as Grima Wormtongue? He was the best Renfield of all time! He might even be a good Gollum. Except for being dead, of course. __________________ And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.

07-03-2010, 06:48 PM	#1
JoltFlame Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 16	I hope not they will remake the trilogy, those three movies are unique and ought to stay that way.

07-04-2010, 01:27 AM	#3
Archaic Elf Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: USA Posts: 33	Klaus Kinski as Gollum would be the icing on the cake. That would be amazing to see. I was a huge fan of Nosferatu ('79), a visual masterpiece. The soundtrack for that film gets stuck in your head easily. Wow, I just found this parody. Lord of the Rings Movie of 1940. This isn't what I had in mind, but it's great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xruJ...eature=related

07-04-2010, 11:02 PM	#6
Archaic Elf Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: USA Posts: 33	You're right, Dwight Fry would be a great Wormtongue. Fry is excellent at behaving rather bold and being full of himself when he is dealing with the orderlies and security guard, but he turns sedate and cowardly whenever Lugosi appears before him. It's fantastic the way his persona shifts in certain scenes in Dracula, and that's a talent that's necessary for depicting Gollum, especially in scenes when Golllum loses his temper with Sam. Karloff would be better in another role...Treebeard? I like the way Karloff and Lugosi interact in the few movies they worked on together, which is particularly cool since they weren't close in reality. Alec Guinness as Gandalf would be great to see. Guinness and Karloff squaring off against Lugosi and Fry at Orthanc would be brilliant.

07-04-2010, 11:34 PM	#7
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,744	Well I had to reach all the way back to the long-defunct but still hanging in there EZBoard incarnation of the Downs to find it, but I still think my late 60s era all-star action extravaganza cast is pretty good: Bilbo -- Sir Alec Guinness Frodo -- Peter O'Toole Sam -- Gene Hackman Merry -- Michael Caine Pippin -- Donald Sutherland Gandalf -- Sir John Gielgud Aragorn -- Clint Eastwood (or you could go William Holden) Legolas -- Robert Redford Gimli -- Telly Savalas (or George Kennedy) Denethor -- Yul Brynner Theoden -- Carroll O'Connor Boromir -- Charles Bronson Faramir -- Steve McQueen Wormtongue -- Robert Vaughn (or Dennis Hopper) Arwen -- Raquel Welch Saruman -- Henry Fonda Gollum -- Don Rickles Galadriel -- Jane Fonda Éomer -- James Coburn Orcs -- Eli Wallach, Ben Johnson, Bruce Dern, Strother Martin I note some overlap with previous posters -- great minds and all that. Follow the link if you dare for other variations, including a black cast (Denzel as Aragorn ) and a made-for-TV cast (Hasselhoff as Aragorn ).