WW: LXXVI - At Moria: EXTRA Edition

[Inziladun]

Well, a strange game this is shaping up to be, in keeping with the trend lately.

The wolves couldn't have made a better choice for their kill last Night.

Originally Posted by The Elf-warrior

Paranoia, maybe I'm just being blind, but I'm inclined to think Blind Guardian's mistakes are so mistakey that it makes her unlikely to be a wolf. I think it's more likely she's a cobbler. I'm inclined to believe she's an innocent.

It's also a well-known fact that newbie wolves are routinely encouraged to act as if they don't understand many of the workings of the game, and it could be argued that some of BG's questions have been a bit over the top in trumpeting newbie status. Not saying she's definitely a wolf, but it's something to keep in mind.

Originally Posted by Loslote

I really do think Boro is a wolfie (and not because of luck). He voted for me, and even admited it was a bandwagoning move. Since when does Boro bandwagon early? He sure seemed entirely adverse to the idea last game, when he was innocent. I'm off to analyze him...

Originally Posted by Nerwen

It does seem quite likely [Izzy] was killed as a suspected Seer. There's no clear indication of who "her" wolf was; indeed she only interacted or talked about four living players (Lottie, Boro, Paranoia and Blind Guardian). Of the four, I don't think it can have been Lottie (this of course doesn't rule out Lottie being a wolf). It could conceivably have been Boro, even though she voted for him, because the vote put him in no real danger.

If Boro is furry, I don't think it's all that likely he was the one wolf Izzy knew about. Why would she have voted for him, in that case? She could easily have voted someone else, and if she knew he was a wolf she should have known a blind vote for him could make the pack suspicious enough to kill her.

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

I don't think that Boro's a wolf, of course what am I to know?

That's nice, but why not?

Originally Posted by Keeper of Dol Guldur

That reason being that my account has 666 posts and SOMEONE refuses to let me post again and thus forked over his account information.

This is quite bizarre!

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

If Boro is furry, I don't think it's all that likely he was the one wolf Izzy knew about. Why would she have voted for him, in that case? She could easily have voted someone else, and if she knew he was a wolf she should have known a blind vote for him could make the pack suspicious enough to kill her.

I said it was "conceivable", not "likely".

Originally Posted by Inziladun

That's nice, but why not?

Indeed, did you have any specific reason for thinking he was innocent, Blind? You did not mention it.

[Nerwen]

So, I was rather struck by young Blind Guardian's dialogue toDay, and I thought I'd turn it into a little play. (Longer passages have been summarised in italics. All BG's posts are untouched.)

EYELESS WATCHER

A play in one act
by
Nerwen

Sally: Ha, ha, Boro's a wolf!

Blind Guardian: Bye-bye Izzy, it was nice to know you. Why do you think Boro's a wolf?

Loslote: This is why.

Blind Guardian: I don't think that Boro's a wolf, of course what am I to know?

Mira: This is why too.

Nerwen: And this.

Paranoia: Ditto.

Blind Guardian: This is all just guessing though. And she wasn't the Seer she was the cobbler. Right? So what's the big deal. If you vote off Boro you may have one less wolf/Seer/villager or whatever. Though I see where you are going. Looks suspicious. Hm...

Lottie: *analyses Boro in detail* See? Bad.

Blind Guardian: OK now he sounds evil.

Nerwen: Barring a Seer-reveal, it's always "just guessing". The point is that the wolves may have thought she was the Seer.

Blind Guardian: I just so happened she was the cobbler So who killed her?

Lottie: The wolves. They were silly.

Blind Guardian: No I meant who is the wolves, I knew that!

Various: Cookies! Cookies!

Blind Guardian: OK OK enough with the cookies! Who's the wolf?

Lottie: Boro. I think Boro. Also Morsul, because of his supremely annoying "no vote" yesterDay. See my vote post for reasons why this is evil.

Blind Guardian: Boro does look suspicious. I don't know, let me read

Blind Guardian: Paranoa too, looked suspicious.

Keeper of Dol Guldur (formerly Mirandir): I am Mira no more! I am a Nazgul! Fear me! Raaa!

Keeper of Dol Guldur (commenting on Blind's "who's the wolf? post): That's kinda the point of the game. To figure that out. Try working some suspicions out for yourself and see where that gets us.

Lottie: Hmm. Noia could just be a rather...agressive newbie. I'd give him a bit longer to see if he calms down a bit.

Blind Guardian: We where talking about cookies, I was trying to get us back on track.

Blind Guardian: Then that leaves Boro

Lottie: It's not so much that it leaves Boro, he just happens to look guilty. There are plenty of other people who could be wolves. Actually, three more, to be specific.

For example...I still don't like Morsul's refusal to vote. And there are several people (Glirdy, Wilwa, Cabbie, and Tum come to mind) who haven't really posted and thus haven't given us much to work with. But Boro does look bad, I'll readily give you that.

Blind Guardian: True. I don't like Morsul's refusal to vote either. Might be a wolf trying to act innocent.

Keeper of Dol Guldur: Morsul's refusal to vote doesn't bother me the way it seems to be bothering other people. I've refused to vote on Day 1 plenty of times because I hate crapshoot votes. At least he bothered to post, unlike half the people supposedly playing in this game.

Lottie *explains why Morsul's post was suspicious*

Various: Deadline? Deadline?

Blind Guardian: That's what I didn't like.

Keeper of Dol Guldur: What didn't you like? It's disgustingly ambiguous posts like that that don't get us anywhere and just confuse people. Please try to be more specific.

Blind Guardian: I said I didn't like Morsul not posting! That's what we where talking about.

Keeper of Dol Guldur: Actually we were talking about deadline, but if you want to think that you can. Furthermore, why don't you like Morsul not posting? Making ambiguous posts with no justification is a waste of everybody's time because then people have to ask why.

Blind Guardian: I didn't like his post because he came online, said he wasn't going to vote and then dissapeared. What the heck? Why not just lerk then say anything at all and act suspicious. And his reasoning was that he didn't suspeact anyone or something along those lines. That he was confused. Why not ask questions like me? "oh I'm a seer and I know something so I'm not going to vote"

If that didn't make sence I'm tired and my thumb hurts

[Note: it makes sense, but it's just a repeat of Lottie's reasons.]


Critic's response: This remarkably fresh drama, with its sparkling, witty conversation and it surface gaiety, carries a darker, yet inescapable subtext. The audience is left wondering: what, exactly, is the relationship between Blind Guardian and Boromir88? What drives her to be truly– in a brilliant piece of symbolism– "blind" to the mounting evidence against him, to try, seemingly, to find another suspect for the crime of which he is accused? We know from the beginning that this is no love story: what strange, unspoken bond, then, can it be that links these two very different characters?

EDIT:X'd since my last post.

[Nerwen]

And in case it's not clear what I'm getting at in my last post: I wouldn't be surprised if Boro and Blind Guardian were packmates. It sort of looks that way. I mean she might be just a newbie who is grateful to him for being kind to her, and doesn't understand why he's suspicious, but still...

[satansaloser2005]

Quick announcement:

I'll be going to see Duck (and our friend the Right Honorable Guinea Pig, our cohort for most of our little adventures) this afternoon. They're all growed up. *sniff* Anyway, while I don't plan to be gone that long, I don't know what (if anything) we'll be doing, so I'm not sure when I'll be back once I leave. But don't worry, I'll be voting at some point, I swear. Otherwise Shasta's threatened me with a grisly death.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Boro

Lottie, find someone else to execute. I voted for you because you had me thinking Rikae was in the game. I thought, I got to vote, Lottie's confusing me, if she's going to do that, that's the best thing I got. It's only a bandwagon because of coming after Glirdan's. I'll ask you since you apparently know me oh so well now after being PM buddies a whole 24 hours...do you really think as a wolf I would go for the easy Day 1 option? I can't help when I have to vote, but heck at least I do it. That's the only reason you have a reason to suspect me, unlike half the rest of this place.

In other words, Boro, you voted Lottie for the kind of trumped-up reason that actually looks worse than none at all– and I say this as one who is generally suspicious of random votes.

And I don't know about Lottie, but I do think you would go for an easy lynch. Why on Earth not?

[Blind Guardian]

Boy, I sounded like poop last night. I don't even remember posting half of that But let's see; I am new and I have never played any werewolf-mofia games, ever. I don't want to say boros a wolf is kinda a subconcious thing. Something tells me not to vote for Boro. I don't know, it's hard to explain

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

Boy, I sounded like **** last night. I don't even remember posting half of that But let's see; I am new and I have never played any werewolf-mofia games, ever. I don't want to say boros a wolf is kinda a subconcious thing. Something tells me not to vote for Boro. I don't know, it's hard to explain

Blind, dear, you see those asterisks? That means you shouldn't be using that kind of language on the Downs. Thanks in advance for keeping it clean!

Anyway I've got Morsul done (have for a while, but my mum showed up so I've not been able to post) and am tacking on a quick analysis of Elfie (hehe) so I'll be back in a few minutes with that.

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

Boy, I sounded like poop last night. I don't even remember posting half of that But let's see; I am new and I have never played any werewolf-mofia games, ever. I don't want to say boros a wolf is kinda a subconcious thing. Something tells me not to vote for Boro. I don't know, it's hard to explain

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