Galadriel in "The Hobbit?" - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Dakêsîntrah · 01-01-2010, 04:12 PM

Apparently Cate Blanchett is already set to reprise her role as Galadriel, albeit she will make her appearance in "The Hobbit."

It's been awhile since I've read the Hobbit, and I don't remember Galadriel in the narrative.

Any thoughts?

Inziladun · 01-01-2010, 04:26 PM

Galadriel makes no appearance in the book The Hobbit, and I fail to see how the character would make any significant contribution to the story. If Blanchett is in it, I would guess they'll likely switch some of the events taking place at Rivendell to Lórien. Why? Who knows, except to try and do more to tie the film together with LOTR. Then again, the Ring was supposed to be the factor that accomplished that, but maybe that's just not subtle enough for Del Toro.

Eönwë · 01-01-2010, 05:13 PM

If they're doing White Council scenes, then they could have Galadriel, or perhaps they'll put her in Rivendell for some reason.

Inziladun · 01-01-2010, 06:06 PM

The White Council would seem more sensible, even though what happened there really had no direct effect on Bilbo's adventure, save to deprive Thorin and Co. of Gandalf's guidance for a time.

Lindale · 01-02-2010, 01:11 AM

Goodness me, Galadriel and Aragorn and Legolas in the Hobbit movie. Each getting more ridiculous than the rest. But if they're gonna do the White Council, perhaps Celeborn and Saruman should be there as well?

Sarumian · 01-02-2010, 04:19 AM

I think it was in other threads and some interviews that there will be two movies: one based on Hobbit and another telling the story of the White Council's attack on Dol Gudur and some other events which had happened between Bilbo's return and the War of the Rings. Apparently they need the Wise to be involved.

Kitanna · 01-02-2010, 09:22 AM

Having Blanchett return as Galadriel makes more sense to me than having Mortensen return as Aragorn.

As others have stated she'll probably appear in White Council scenes, which is probably a good assumption. What purpose would it serve for Thorin's company to travel all the way to Lorien before heading to the Lonely Mountain? Being in White Council scenes is really the only logical place to put her.

Anyway, I'm curious to find the article that says she's returning. Dakêsîntrah, do you still have a link or a source for it?

Lindale · 01-02-2010, 10:17 AM

I have no idea how reliable this site is... but apparently (from the other articles in the site), Sir Christopher Lee apparently doesn't want to go back as Saruman. Not that that's utterly surprising...

Dakêsîntrah · 01-02-2010, 12:24 PM

Christopher would still like to do something for Tolkien before he passes. Perhaps voice the dragon Smaug?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qGFbBNnodw

Lindale · 01-02-2010, 01:50 PM

That'd really be weird, Dakêsîntrah, as the moviemakers of Hobbit want to closely tie Hobbit with LotR. That's about the point of casting Hugo Weaving as Elrond, Sir Ian McKellen as Gandalf, and Cate Blanchett as Galadriel. If LotR-Saruman would be Smaug in the Hobbit, that wouldn't do well for their agenda.

And I think Sir Lee was, well, unhappy with his scenes cut from the RotK movie, as discussed here.

Mithalwen · 01-04-2010, 07:05 AM

I think the idea of a link movie has been dropped and it is going to be Hobbit in two parts (I am not sure this will work but I guess they think it will make them more money and that is in short supply atm) . Unless they decide to sub a Lorien interlude (which doens't tie with the established hostility between silvan elves and dwarves) for the Beorn sequence which doesn't really fit the movie-verse already created, it will have to be White Council for Galadriel and that would surely include Saruman too.

I think I read that Sir Christopher is not up to returning to NZ but since this is away from the main plot I don't see why the White Council could not be filmed in the UK - Blanchett and Weaving do loads of stuff here anyway.

Morthoron · 01-04-2010, 07:25 AM

Galadriel will be in White Council scenes. Yes, that will be the added fan-fic aspect of the two-film Hobbit extravaganza. You didn't think Peter Jackson would allow a simple retelling of the linear tale, did you?

Tuor in Gondolin · 01-04-2010, 09:31 AM

It wouldn't be all that much of a stretch (certainly not for
PJ and friends) to have Galadriel at the White Council and at
the siege of Dol Guldur. More screen time for Gandalf, a
big battle scene, and not such a long gap of Gandalf in the
two hobbit movies. (Splice in seperately the White Council and
Dol Guldur, perhaps when Bilbo battles the giant spiders and
when he helps the dwarves escape from Legolas's daddy).

Now what elf might be in that drinking scene with the butler?

Erendis · 01-13-2010, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuor in Gondolin

Now what elf might be in that drinking scene with the butler?

May I say?

Well,both Legolas and Galadriel are not that much of an irrartional comeback,indeed.But Aragorn...perhaps as a young teen in Rivendel and nothing more.

Joneswilliamsc · 04-21-2010, 11:26 PM

Well according to me it is really a very quite amusing that Sir Ian McKellen was on board from the very start. His role of Gandalf and all that goes it is very impressive. The looks of it is forced his way in with staff in hand.

Galadriel · 05-02-2010, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindale

Goodness me, Galadriel and Aragorn and Legolas in the Hobbit movie. Each getting more ridiculous than the rest. But if they're gonna do the White Council, perhaps Celeborn and Saruman should be there as well?

Legolas and Aragorn won't be there. Orlando Bloom wants to make a come back, but Jackson and Toro are a bit apprehensive about it.

Sardy · 05-11-2010, 06:26 PM

Perhaps she has been cast to do the opening VO monologs, which would be perfectly in tune with the LotR films.

deagol · 05-13-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sardy

Perhaps she has been cast to do the opening VO monologs, which would be perfectly in tune with the LotR films.

This actually makes sense . . . which leads me to believe that it won't happen.

In any case, the fact that Galadriel has no place in the story is not likely to sidetrack Mr. Jackson for very long.

Ibrîniðilpathânezel · 05-13-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by deagol

In any case, the fact that Galadriel has no place in the story is not likely to sidetrack Mr. Jackson for very long.

Ya think?

One can at least make a somewhat logical stretch to include Galadriel, if they plan to do the White Council stuff to explain Gandalf's prolonged absence. One can even do a stretch to get Legolas in, since he was probably alive, and the story does involve his father and his army. But an adult Aragorn.... No. He was all of 10 when Thorin and Co. passed through Rivendell on their quest. And the notion of him playing Arathorn (a speculation I've heard elsewhere) is also right out, since Arathorn died 8 years before.

But that would little deter Jackson, alas. *sigh*

Nerwen · 06-22-2010, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by riyanjason

Not what i imagined at all but it is really effective. I pictured frodo and sam looking down into a mirror surrounded by peaceful darkness and stars. (God that sounds very poetic!!! Sorry!!!)
Anyway, it does look good.
Will frodo have to get Galadriel to pick him up to look in it though?!!! Just a thought.

You know the film version of The Lord of the Rings has been out for oh... some little time now, don't you?

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PrinceOfTheHalflings · 06-23-2010, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Joneswilliamsc

Well according to me it is really a very quite amusing that Sir Ian McKellen was on board from the very start. His role of Gandalf and all that goes it is very impressive. The looks of it is forced his way in with staff in hand.

Wow, these bots get better every day. Almost had me fooled there for a second.

Puddleglum · 08-23-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Erendis

But Aragorn...perhaps as a young teen in Rivendel and nothing more.

Not even that. Aragorn was born in 2931 and the Quest of Erebor was in 2941. Aragorn would be a 10 year old boy. Somehow, I *don't* think Viggo (good as he is) could be a convincing 10 year old "Estel" (remember that he didn't even know yet that his real name was Aragorn or that he was Isuldur's heir) - or that he would want to try.

Tuor in Gondolin · 08-24-2010, 02:26 PM

No problem for PJ. He'd just age him to about 20
and put in the movie the first meeting of Aragorn and Arwen.
(Hey, after wargs on steroids, dwarf tossing, rather
dim-witted ents, etc., you think that would be a problem for him)?

PrinceOfTheHalflings · 08-25-2010, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuor in Gondolin

No problem for PJ. He'd just age him to about 20
and put in the movie the first meeting of Aragorn and Arwen.
(Hey, after wargs on steroids, dwarf tossing, rather
dim-witted ents, etc., you think that would be a problem for him)?

I don't think that Viggo Mortensen would do it ... so he might as well cast a 10 year old.

01-01-2010, 04:12 PM	#1
Dakêsîntrah Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Armenelos Posts: 29	Galadriel in "The Hobbit?" Apparently Cate Blanchett is already set to reprise her role as Galadriel, albeit she will make her appearance in "The Hobbit." It's been awhile since I've read the Hobbit, and I don't remember Galadriel in the narrative. Any thoughts?

01-01-2010, 04:26 PM	#2
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,038	Galadriel makes no appearance in the book The Hobbit, and I fail to see how the character would make any significant contribution to the story. If Blanchett is in it, I would guess they'll likely switch some of the events taking place at Rivendell to Lórien. Why? Who knows, except to try and do more to tie the film together with LOTR. Then again, the Ring was supposed to be the factor that accomplished that, but maybe that's just not subtle enough for Del Toro. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

01-01-2010, 05:13 PM	#3
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	If they're doing White Council scenes, then they could have Galadriel, or perhaps they'll put her in Rivendell for some reason. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

01-01-2010, 06:06 PM	#4
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,038	The White Council would seem more sensible, even though what happened there really had no direct effect on Bilbo's adventure, save to deprive Thorin and Co. of Gandalf's guidance for a time. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

01-02-2010, 01:11 AM	#5
Lindale Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: midway upon... in a forest dark Posts: 975	Goodness me, Galadriel and Aragorn and Legolas in the Hobbit movie. Each getting more ridiculous than the rest. But if they're gonna do the White Council, perhaps Celeborn and Saruman should be there as well? __________________ The heart does things for reasons Reason itself cannot comprehend. - Blaise Pascal Legal Madness.

01-02-2010, 04:19 AM	#6
Sarumian Wight Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 129	I think it was in other threads and some interviews that there will be two movies: one based on Hobbit and another telling the story of the White Council's attack on Dol Gudur and some other events which had happened between Bilbo's return and the War of the Rings. Apparently they need the Wise to be involved.

01-02-2010, 09:22 AM	#7
Kitanna Child of the West Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Watching President Fillmore ride a unicorn Posts: 2,132	Having Blanchett return as Galadriel makes more sense to me than having Mortensen return as Aragorn. As others have stated she'll probably appear in White Council scenes, which is probably a good assumption. What purpose would it serve for Thorin's company to travel all the way to Lorien before heading to the Lonely Mountain? Being in White Council scenes is really the only logical place to put her. Anyway, I'm curious to find the article that says she's returning. Dakêsîntrah, do you still have a link or a source for it? __________________ "Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

01-02-2010, 10:17 AM	#8
Lindale Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: midway upon... in a forest dark Posts: 975	I have no idea how reliable this site is... but apparently (from the other articles in the site), Sir Christopher Lee apparently doesn't want to go back as Saruman. Not that that's utterly surprising... __________________ The heart does things for reasons Reason itself cannot comprehend. - Blaise Pascal Legal Madness.

01-02-2010, 12:24 PM	#9
Dakêsîntrah Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Armenelos Posts: 29	Christopher would still like to do something for Tolkien before he passes. Perhaps voice the dragon Smaug? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qGFbBNnodw

01-02-2010, 01:50 PM	#10
Lindale Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: midway upon... in a forest dark Posts: 975	That'd really be weird, Dakêsîntrah, as the moviemakers of Hobbit want to closely tie Hobbit with LotR. That's about the point of casting Hugo Weaving as Elrond, Sir Ian McKellen as Gandalf, and Cate Blanchett as Galadriel. If LotR-Saruman would be Smaug in the Hobbit, that wouldn't do well for their agenda. And I think Sir Lee was, well, unhappy with his scenes cut from the RotK movie, as discussed here. __________________ The heart does things for reasons Reason itself cannot comprehend. - Blaise Pascal Legal Madness.

01-04-2010, 07:05 AM	#11
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,459	I think the idea of a link movie has been dropped and it is going to be Hobbit in two parts (I am not sure this will work but I guess they think it will make them more money and that is in short supply atm) . Unless they decide to sub a Lorien interlude (which doens't tie with the established hostility between silvan elves and dwarves) for the Beorn sequence which doesn't really fit the movie-verse already created, it will have to be White Council for Galadriel and that would surely include Saruman too. I think I read that Sir Christopher is not up to returning to NZ but since this is away from the main plot I don't see why the White Council could not be filmed in the UK - Blanchett and Weaving do loads of stuff here anyway. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

01-04-2010, 07:25 AM	#12
Morthoron Curmudgeonly Wordwraith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits Posts: 2,510	Galadriel will be in White Council scenes. Yes, that will be the added fan-fic aspect of the two-film Hobbit extravaganza. You didn't think Peter Jackson would allow a simple retelling of the linear tale, did you? __________________ And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.

01-04-2010, 09:31 AM	#13
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	It wouldn't be all that much of a stretch (certainly not for PJ and friends) to have Galadriel at the White Council and at the siege of Dol Guldur. More screen time for Gandalf, a big battle scene, and not such a long gap of Gandalf in the two hobbit movies. (Splice in seperately the White Council and Dol Guldur, perhaps when Bilbo battles the giant spiders and when he helps the dwarves escape from Legolas's daddy). Now what elf might be in that drinking scene with the butler? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.' Last edited by Tuor in Gondolin; 01-04-2010 at 09:35 AM.

04-21-2010, 11:26 PM	#15
Joneswilliamsc Newly Deceased Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3	Well according to me it is really a very quite amusing that Sir Ian McKellen was on board from the very start. His role of Gandalf and all that goes it is very impressive. The looks of it is forced his way in with staff in hand. __________________ m3 real carte

05-11-2010, 06:26 PM	#17
Sardy Wight Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hudson Valley, NY Posts: 111	Perhaps she has been cast to do the opening VO monologs, which would be perfectly in tune with the LotR films. __________________ www.scottchristiancarr.com They passed slowly, and the hobbits could see the starlight glimmering on their hair and in their eyes.

08-24-2010, 02:26 PM	#23
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	No problem for PJ. He'd just age him to about 20 and put in the movie the first meeting of Aragorn and Arwen. (Hey, after wargs on steroids, dwarf tossing, rather dim-witted ents, etc., you think that would be a problem for him)? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'