Tolkien Translated... into Googlese

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

It just hits me that "password" may actually come from "Beleg" via German Beleg (pronounced roughly 'balague', as in 'plague') = 'proof, voucher, receipt'. The poor guy - wasn't being slain by his best friend hard enough on him?

Ah, you must be right. But then I don't know where "seige" comes from.

Ja, Ek sal graag jou bloed drink nie, dat daar so ek kan die bloed van die beleg van my heer vergeet, en die bloed van Brandir verslaan is onregverdig. Ek sal jou vinnig doodmaak

Any clues?

Anyway, Beleg's not so badly off, just being turned into a password*. The equally unfortunate Brandir eventually becomes, "the wrong brand of blood".





*Next time I need a password, I'll know what to pick.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Anyway, Beleg's not so badly off, just being turned into a password*. The equally unfortunate Brandir eventually becomes, "the wrong brand of blood".

As in: "What kind of cheap rubbish are you drinking, Dracula?"

But, look at this:

"Lord Black, who left the country! This is very unfair. The illegal seizure of their countries' struggle. Therefore, the king must be wrong battle, he should buy, so it will always exist."

Aww, poor them. This is very unfair.
The last sentence, however, seems like having some deeper idea behind it, probably some "Capitalist metaphysics".

[Pitchwife]

After a quick search of some Afrikaans online dictionaries, it looks like we could both be right, Nerwen: Afr beleg (noun)= Engl siege (cf. German Belagerung siege, belagern to lay siege on). On the other hand, Afr beleg (verb) = Gm belegen = Engl to proove. So my best guess at the moment is that Beleg got split into 'siege' and 'password', while forget seems to have been... well, forgotten. But maybe some Dutch Downer could shed some more light on this?
Anyway, it's all quite fascinating, once you dig into it - even more if you happen to understand two or three of the languages involved, I suppose.

Originally Posted by Legate

"Lord Black, who left the country! This is very unfair. The illegal seizure of their countries' struggle. Therefore, the king must be wrong battle, he should buy, so it will always exist."

*input error*input error*input error*input error*input error*(insert smilie with smoke coming out of its ears)*

[Guinevere]

Well, in Dutch "Beleg" does mean "siege". (in German "siege" is "Belagerung" , I can see the relationship.)
When I fetch money at the cash machine they always ask "Wünschen Sie einen Beleg?" (Do you wish a Beleg (receipt)?
Makes me always think of poor Cuthalion!

Edit:Oops, cross-posted with Pitchwife!

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

After a quick search of some Afrikaans online dictionaries, it looks like we could both be right, Nerwen: Afr beleg (noun)= Engl siege (cf. German Belagerung siege, belagern to lay siege on). On the other hand, Afr beleg (verb) = Gm belegen = Engl to proove. So my best guess at the moment is that Beleg got split into 'siege' and 'password', while forget seems to have been... well, forgotten. But maybe some Dutch Downer could shed some more light on this?r*input error*input error*input error*(insert smilie with smoke coming out of its ears)*

Originally Posted by Guinevere

Well, in Dutch "Beleg" does mean "siege". (in German "siege" is "Belagerung" , I can see the relationship.)
When I fetch money at the cash machine they always ask "Wünschen Sie einen Beleg?" (Do you wish a Beleg (receipt)?
Makes me always think of poor Cuthalion!

I wonder why the word came back into English twice? in other cases it seems this program picks a possible translation at random, if there's more than one– that's how "swiftly" in the original became "hunger" via "fast".

Mr Cuthalion really sent this thing haywire, anyway– most quotes I've tried didn't get that bizarre until they'd been translated back from Chinese.

[Blind Guardian]

Wow this is great! It translated blessed to holy Oo and somehow got paraphrase in there !

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Legate

"Lord Black, who left the country! This is very unfair. The illegal seizure of their countries' struggle. Therefore, the king must be wrong battle, he should buy, so it will always exist."

I suspect this started life as:

"Let the Lord of the Black Land come forth! Justice shall be done upon him. For wrongfully he has made war upon Gondor and wrested its lands. Therefore the King of Gondor demands that he should atone for his evils, and depart then forever."

[Urwen]

Guess these:

1."Last but not least, cold butter and green bird art beads, silver, ivory, queen mother, Miriam, and in most Gulf countries"

2."Throughout the area, the hair looks like a lily, yellow grass"


3. "Winter can not"


4."Life, or dark immortal, beat I sign up?"

[The Might]

The translations are that bad, I don't even have a clue for most of these...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Urwen

4."Life, or dark immortal, beat I sign up?"

This one was not so difficult, even without your once again impatient and early clues, Urwen. It's Éowyn to the Witch-King.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I suspect this started life as:

"Let the Lord of the Black Land come forth! Justice shall be done upon him. For wrongfully he has made war upon Gondor and wrested its lands. Therefore the King of Gondor demands that he should atone for his evils, and depart then forever."

Indeed that was it.

This "capitalist metaphysics" ending made me wish to try my favourite metaphysics quote from LotR. I was not disappointed, what came out, was this:

"I'm a ghost ring cold. The skin is your body, when seen, and all other political parties, cold eyes."

I wonder if you people can figure out where that comes from.

Also, from totally different area, this is lovely:

"Century, Tags, Obesity Bread of Love "and she Smiled!"

This came out of the maximum translations, as after 10 or even 25, it was still quite easily recognisable. I can let you people wonder about it for a while here before I post where it is from - just for the sake of fun, because honestly, I doubt anybody is going to recognise what was the original quote.

[Guinevere]

Originally Posted by Urwen

1."Last but not least, cold butter and green bird art beads, silver, ivory, queen mother, Miriam, and in most Gulf countries"

At least I can recognize that one (from the end of the Akallabêth):

"And last of all the mounting wave, green and cold and plumed with foam, climbing over the land, took to its bosom Tar-Míriel the queen, fairer than silver or ivory or pearls."