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Old 04-30-2010, 01:17 AM   #1
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Would it hurt to say Arwen? She is the most useless little damsel I have ever come across in Middle-Earth. I don't know what Aragorn sees in her, besides her beauty. Same with Beren. They're both like "Ohhh you're so pretty so let me just fall in love with you!" I mean, I know Tolkien based Luthien on his wife, and that's really sweet, but seriously, I despise this teenage infatuation stuff of 'love at first sight'.
I also find Aragorn a bit of a Gary-Sue. He is constantly compared with other characters and held up as "a mighty ruler, kingly, tall" blah blah blah.
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Old 04-30-2010, 09:15 PM   #2
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Would it hurt to say Arwen? She is the most useless little damsel I have ever come across in Middle-Earth. I don't know what Aragorn sees in her, besides her beauty. Same with Beren. They're both like "Ohhh you're so pretty so let me just fall in love with you!" I mean, I know Tolkien based Luthien on his wife, and that's really sweet, but seriously, I despise this teenage infatuation stuff of 'love at first sight'.
I also find Aragorn a bit of a Gary-Sue. He is constantly compared with other characters and held up as "a mighty ruler, kingly, tall" blah blah blah.
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It would not hurt to say Arwen. That Undomiel chick (as I so fondly call her) didn't make my least favorite because I don't really care that much about her.

But I do have to disagree with you about Aragorn. He is quite awesome, and not at all Gary-Suish - in my personal opinion.
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Old 04-30-2010, 10:53 PM   #3
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Arwen is annoying. I hate her part in the movies. What the heck, why not keep it original instead of letting that pesky girl to have a larger role! She seems to think she is so important! AGH!!
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Old 05-02-2010, 05:25 AM   #4
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It would not hurt to say Arwen. That Undomiel chick (as I so fondly call her) didn't make my least favorite because I don't really care that much about her.

But I do have to disagree with you about Aragorn. He is quite awesome, and not at all Gary-Suish - in my personal opinion.
Yeah, he is pretty awesome, but I just feel that Tolkien kind of over-did his role.
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:24 AM   #5
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Yeah, he is pretty awesome, but I just feel that Tolkien kind of over-did his role.
I would have to agree that the old Dunadan is a little over-the-top. A proper hero should have some endearing flaw that makes him seem at least marginally human or, lacking that, at least some inner demon to overcome beyond pining away for his dimensionless girlfriend. But for all that, he's hard not to like.
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Old 05-02-2010, 03:09 PM   #6
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I would have to agree that the old Dunadan is a little over-the-top. A proper hero should have some endearing flaw that makes him seem at least marginally human or, lacking that, at least some inner demon to overcome beyond pining away for his dimensionless girlfriend. But for all that, he's hard not to like.
He does have a flaw. He lacks self-confidence. Remember when he says, in the first chapter of TTT:

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And now may I make a right choice, and change the evil fate of this unhappy day!
And, in the books at least, he does not "pine". You are thinking of the movie version. There is a difference.
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Old 05-03-2010, 09:44 AM   #7
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I would have to agree that the old Dunadan is a little over-the-top. A proper hero should have some endearing flaw that makes him seem at least marginally human or, lacking that, at least some inner demon to overcome beyond pining away for his dimensionless girlfriend. But for all that, he's hard not to like.
Hmm. What I liked about Turin was the fact that he was a kick-*** warrior, but his pride got in the way too much. I'm bordering on not liking Aragorn, but not quite.
I liked Frodo too. For all his flaws, I can't imagine anyone else carrying the Ring to Mordor. I like the fact that he's notyour typical hero who just gets everything right (and is liked by everyone, and gets the girl, and gets a happy ending, and gets whatever he always wanted). He is a realistic hero, and I appreciate that.
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Old 05-09-2010, 08:53 AM   #8
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Hmmmm, I will have to say the guy that made me the most angry while reading the Silm. would have to be Thingol. mostly because he was just a little too protective of his daughter (who at that time would be quite old). He also treated Beren like he was an idiot and a thrall of Morgoth. The only thing that soothed my anger was the fact that he was nice to Turin and let him live in Menegroth.
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:24 AM   #9
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Gimli never did anything for me. I don't particularly dislike him but he is boring.

Beren I do dislike. He is a stubborn and selfish jerk. Luthien could've done much better.
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