WW LXXIII: Arkham Asylum: Holding Cells(Game Thread)

[Nogrod]

Kitalysis ("kita" in Finnish means roughly "a gaping mouth", like one of a wild beast )


DAY 1

#18
Shortly coming into the discussion with two short comments.

#40
Doesn't understand the discussion of a Boro-train and says most comments have been wishy-washy and thence easy places for wolves to hide. Questions Boro's touchiness.

#81
Says she can only make a few hurried comments - and gives a full page of analysis...
Suspects Boro for overreacting and Lottie for the "hint-issue".

The final reason for her vote on Lottie was:

Originally Posted by Kit

As I said above she took hold of the hinting idea that Glirdan appears to have put forth as a joke. This did stir up conversation, but at the same time Loslote didn't commit to the idea one way or the other. This sort of vague, flip-flipping is an easy way to hide a baddie on Day 1.

DAY 2

#140
Starts the Day with a voting analysis that ends up with the following:

So...who looks the worst?
I'm assuming I'll be looked at because I cast the first vote for Loslote.
But I think Durelin, Glirdan, and Wilwa to some extent look the worst.

I don't like the middle-line.

Dury and Glirdy are her suspects because of their votes to bring Lottie over Wilwa and that is understandable logic. Her reason to include Wilwa is a more interesting one. She says she wouldn't put it past Wilwa to vote for Boro and then kill him at Night to daringly bluff herself to look innocent. I do think this quite far-fetched indeed and do wonder whether there could be something there revealing some thought processes of the wolves?

#143
She corrects her error after Dury notified her of it (that Dury had listed Lottie as a wolf early on D1 contrary to what she had said). But the interesting part here is the explanation why she had not seen that post by Dury:

I was rushed and focused on Nogrod, Glirdan and myself when I was rereading.

Now that is interesting. She said of me in her analysis:

Nogrod: voted Pitch, didn't really give a reason in the vote post (I'll dig it up later I suppose)

!!!
I think I discussed Pitch quite a many times in quite a many posts yesterDay and she hadn't noticed it although she said she had read the thread focusing on me (with Glirdy and herself?). And what does it mean that you read the thread focusing on yourself? A wolf would focus on the impression she gives or how others talk of you... There is something wrong here.

#153
Makes a lengthy analysis on Glirdan and concludes that he is suspicious. Comes up with alternate theories of Glirdy and Wilwa being either wolf-wolf or wolf-innocent. Ends up with:

I feel like Glirdan's interaction with Wilwa and his vote for Lottie (vote placement especially) are too neat and tidy.

#155
Makes a lengthy analysis on Wilwa and concludes there is nothing overwhelmingly suspicious in her (so bye-bye G&W wolves-theory then?).

Wilwa provides a good blend of silly and serious for Day 1. Though she raises my eyebrows because of how she goes from defense to attack (for Boro and Lottie specifically), but it doesn't feel sinister to me. I'm not inclined to trust Wilwa just yet, but I'll be moving my suspicions to the back-burner at present.

A short break now. Then some comments. A vote. And to bed.

[satansaloser2005]

Well I have to vote very soon. Gah, I hate it.

I'm thinking Kit; not only do I suspect her*, it appears others do too. Reassures me that I'm not completely crazy (or that others are too, but then again....) so I'm willing to take the risk as she's one of my top suspects.


Other than that, I'd go for Wilwa or quite possibly Nerwen. Actually, in the opposite order from what I've just listed, though either would be fine with me. I will not vote for any of our fine men folk, save Nog, who appears to be a bit different than usual. Then again, we are in a mad house, so perhaps I'll let him slide.


*I looked over her posts and decided that it wasn't just that one post that bothered me. I'm sorry I don't have time to do a complete explanation.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Well I have to vote very soon. Gah, I hate it.

As well.

I trust innocent:
none

Might be innocent:
Dury - Declaring that openly that she doesn't bother to read the thread and playing in that manner would be just mocking the game all the others are trying to play if she were to win that way. So it's hard for me to believe she's a wolf.
Sally - A gut feeling mostly, amybe also because her suspicions seem to quite near my own and thus it feels like she talks sense...

Two wolves here (?), in the Joker's lists order:
Nerwen - I would really liked to have seen more of her toDay. YesterDay I suspected her more than I do now. It would have been nice to see whether that would have changed had she posted more.
Wilwa - The enigma. A key to many riddles but not suspicious enough to me to vote I quess. Still a host of controversies seem to entangle around her which could make it reasonable to check her.
Pitch - Mr. Reasonable again. I hate it when he's polite and nice and stabs you at the back at Night. I'm wavering with him. I might vote him again but my feeling says not to.
Glirdan - He's been somewhat erratic but that is the reason why I hesitate as I know he can surpass even Lommy in that.
Kitanna - Very cool and collected, active, substantive... and still I feel something is wrong with her. NB. also the problems I brought forwards in my "kitalysis".
Isabel - She has been careful, much too careful to my taste. YesterDay she only jumped on Lottie and practically had nothing to say on anyone else (she notified Boro's reason to vote Wilwa to be sure) and toDay she has just defended herself.

[Nerwen]

Okay... just finished reading the thread.

First off, I'd like to say that I'm not sure why this suspicion of Kit (from Nogrod, Sally and Dury), as she hasn't struck me playing evilly, and in fact seems to me one of the most reasonable and useful players.

Now, to comment on something Kit herself said–

#153.

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Now the post of Nerwen's he comments on suggests two wolves will distant themselves so as not to leave a line to the other so early. It seems to me he abandons his thoughts of Nerwen as a wolf based on this. Why should she be the cobbler and not the wolf? Why couldn't it be Lottie who was the cobbler in his mind?

Also– this is perhaps a little thing– but why is he "adamant" that I'm "no ordinary villager"– when his suspicion of me was based entirely on the theory that Lottie and I were wolves staging a fight? It sounds to me like he's just echoing Sally at #104, where she says

Originally Posted by Sally

I'm recognizing a change from 'normal' Nerwen behavior and whether she's cobbler or wolf I'm leaning toward an evil roled Nerwen more than a gifted Nerwen.

And in fact all his suspicions have that "going with the flow" look to them. Reminds me a lot of the way he played last game.

As for Sally herself– in that same post, all her suspicions are variants of "Just seems evil. Yeah." Which is, at best, very lazy playing.

[Nogrod]

It is between Kit and Izzy for me.

Kit has been more active - and I don't mean only the number or length of her posts - but the fact that she makes opinions of people and argues suspicions. That is something I appreciate (that is what I call playing this game in the first place) and something which enables us others to read her like we when posting our thoughts make it possible for the othjers to read us.

There are some problematic issues with her (like her odd claim that she had focused on me while reading and admitting she needs to go back to check my points on Pitch as she hadn't read my posts) but also things that look pretty innocent (like she first entertains a Glirdy-Wilwa wolves-theory while analysing Glirdy but after analysing Wilwa throws it away).

Of Izzy I'd like to quote from Dury actually:

And Isabel is low-radar skater wolf.

She has been very careful not to make anyone feel bad or unhappy with her. She only jumped on Lottie, secured she was lynched and went *puff* away again. Yes, she mentioned Boro:

I do not particularly like how Boromir said he was going to vote for Wilwa because he thought Wilwa would vote for him.

But unless I'm mistaken, that was the only critical word she made on anyone (except Lottie that is).

I smell opportunism, "do not rub anyone the wrong way"-tactics and "low-radar skating". All of them wolvish approaches to werewolf. And if she's going to continue that way there will be no way of saying anything more of her even later, whereas Kit comes forwards making points and analysis from which we can later either catch her or start to carefully trust her.

*Runs to have a final cigarette to think it once again... and then to bed with a vote.*

EDIT: X'd with Nerwen... good to see someone online for a change!

[satansaloser2005]

K, so alas I have to go. Like, erm, now. So I must vote.



++Kit




Best of luck to all the innocents at lynching a wolf toDay (hopefully Kit lol) and I hope to see you all toMorrow.


Oh, and Nog? Go to bed, darling.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Oh, and Nog? Go to bed, darling.

I'm going... I'm going...

++ Izzy

For the reasons mentioned in my last two posts above.

[Pitchwife]

Not going to vote for:
- Kit: I find her analyses sound and helpful, with no misrepresentation or other signs of wolvery as far as I can detect; don't quite get what's supposed to be so creepy about her;
- Nog: speaks sense and seems to be himself so far;
- wilwa: she is a bit of an enigma, but doesn't seem terribly furry all in all;
- sally: would have liked to see some more of her, but she still seems to ring true;

Unsure about:
- Izzy: don't know, I can't really make head or tail of her;
- Dury: pity she's so detached from the game, makes it hard to read her;

Still suspect (but not to the point of voting for now):
- Nerwen: hasn't said much toDay that would appease my doubt, but I feel I may have been tunnel-visioning on her, so need more to decide;

Probably going to vote for:
- Glirdan: looks most furry at the moment, for various reasons addressed in #158 above.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

(like her odd claim that she had focused on me while reading and admitting she needs to go back to check my points on Pitch as she hadn't read my posts)

It wasn't that I hadn't read your posts. It was at the time I made that post I was only rereading the vote posts and that was my focus, rather than what had been said earlier. As for focusing on you, Glirdan, and myself those were the three names I remembered from Durelin's grouping. I have obviously been unclear in some of my statements as of late, which never goes well for me.

Anyway...

++ Glirdan

As I stated before I haven't really liked his interaction regarding Wilwa or how his suspicions ran yesterday. His vote placement was odd and it broke a tie. Was it to save his fellow Wilwa or was it to cast suspicions on her? Or was he just trying to seal an innocent's fate?

[Nerwen]

More on Sally:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Well I have to vote very soon. Gah, I hate it.

I'm thinking Kit; not only do I suspect her*, it appears others do too. Reassures me that I'm not completely crazy (or that others are too, but then again....) so I'm willing to take the risk as she's one of my top suspects.

Then she votes her.

Which would all be fine– except that I was apparently Sally's top suspect earlier, for some reason, while she was on the fence about Kit– until Nogrod and Dury started going after her and looked like they might vote her.

EDIT:X'd since Nogrod.

[Durelin]

Now, while I don't like Sally's attitude there, I think that it's interesting that you're acting like I was going after Kitanna when I called her 'creepy' along with other simple negative remarks about people.

Apparently it was picked up by both Nog and Sally, but I must say they took 'creepy' and somehow turned it into 'ah yes I agree with your case against her.' Sorta.

The mind is such an annoying thing...