WW LXXIII: Arkham Asylum: Holding Cells(Game Thread)

[Kitanna]

Boro as the victim? Erm...I'll get into that later. First off I'll like to go over the votes from yesterday.

Me: voted Loslote for her overly agreeable nature toward Glirdan's comment about Boro hinting.
Pitch: stated it was a shot in the dark and voted Durelin, saying we'd listen if she'd say more.
Nogrod: voted Pitch, didn't really give a reason in the vote post (I'll dig it up later I suppose)
Wilwa: voted Boro on the basis of his defense toward his first post. At one point she states his first wasn't what raised her suspicions, but it was his defense of it.
Loslote: votes Nerwen

No, I think it's suspicious that Nerwen's saying "Oh I'm soooo evil! Haha isn't it hilarious???" and Wilwa's playing along. I doubt if they're both wolves, but I'm pretty sure one is. I think it's Nerwen.

Boro: votes Wilwa, though he admits to having nothing
Sally: votes Wilwa, feeling her tone is off. "too unreal to be innocent"
Durelin: votes Loslote, not entirely sure why. Loslote wasn't in her pairing group from her earlier posts and she's not mentioned in her explanation post either.
Glirdan: votes Loslote as well. Comments on her jumping onto the hinting joke he had made in regards to Boro's first post.
Isabellkya: voted Loslote. Seemed to be more interested in Nerwen or Boro as a baddie though, at least that's how I read it.
Nerwen: voted Loslote thinking maybe she was a cobbler.

So...who looks the worst?
I'm assuming I'll be looked at because I cast the first vote for Loslote.
But I think Durelin, Glirdan, and Wilwa to some extent look the worst.
Durelin: She pairs off some possible wolves, but doesn't mention Loslote and yet still ends up casting her vote for her. Now Durelin has said she's busy and can't contribute much, so does her lack of explanation have to do with lack of time or something more sinister?
Glirdan: His vote breaks the Wilwa-Loslote tie bringing Lottie's vote count to 3 while Wilwa's is 2.
Wilwa: her vote for Boro is suspect because he died. It's probably too early for a daring bluff of having a wolf vote for that night's victim, but I wouldn't put it past wolf-Wilwa.

I was inclined to include Isabellkya because of her Lottie vote, but I don't find it overly suspicious right now. I'll be taking a closer look at posts after some sleep so this opinion is inclined to change. For now the three listed above look the most suspicious to me based on their votes.

[Durelin]

Oh that's hilarious!

Also hilarious:

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Durelin: votes Loslote, not entirely sure why. Loslote wasn't in her pairing group from her earlier posts and she's not mentioned in her explanation post either.

Originally Posted by Kitanna

She pairs off some possible wolves, but doesn't mention Loslote and yet still ends up casting her vote for her. Now Durelin has said she's busy and can't contribute much, so does her lack of explanation have to do with lack of time or something more sinister?

More quotes!!

Originally Posted by Me

Wolves - Round 1

Nogrod
Loslote

Originally Posted by Me

Loslote is annoyingly agree-able and like 'im going to be helpful!' But so is Sally.

P.S. - I also don't care to contribute much.

[Durelin]

Btw, forgive me my sillyness.

*gives everyone cookies before she scuttles off*

I don't care if you think I'm furry or not, I just don't want you to hate me. <3

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Durelin

Hax! I was rushed and focused on Nogrod, Glirdan and myself when I was rereading. I strike my earlier comments about Durelin from the records because I'm stupid and clearly unable to read.

[Isabellkya]

Haha.
The Cobbler as the First Night kill choice.
I am not sure you can get better, save for a wolf killing themselves I suppose.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Haha.
The Cobbler as the First Night kill choice.
I am not sure you can get better, save for a wolf killing themselves I suppose.

We certainly owe Lottie an apology! I mean, she was right about him all along... and we went and lynched her. Lucky we have such nice, helpful wolves...

Now, the obligatory why-was-he-killed? bit:

Originally Posted by Kit

Wilwa: her vote for Boro is suspect because he died. It's probably too early for a daring bluff of having a wolf vote for that night's victim, but I wouldn't put it past wolf-Wilwa.

It's at least possible. Also the reason she gave for voting him wasn't the best, even by Day One standards.

Originally Posted by Kit

Glirdan: His vote breaks the Wilwa-Loslote tie bringing Lottie's vote count to 3 while Wilwa's is 2.

He does makes a case against Wilwa herself here. All the same, it's rather wishy-washy and doesn't make that much sense, and in the same post he also describes her "ra-ra village" posting that other people found suspicious as "typical innocent Wilwa". Hmmn.

EDIT: formatting.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Haha.
The Cobbler as the First Night kill choice.
I am not sure you can get better, save for a wolf killing themselves I suppose.

Joining wilwa in the optimist camp?
To be sure, it's nice to be rid of the cobbler this early, and the only way we could have fared better up to now would have been catching a wolf yesterDay instead of that (sadly predictable) Lottiewagon. Let's just not get over-confident; pride comes before the fall, and all that.
Speaking of said wagon, I'm more than a bit puzzled by Izzy going after Lottie so aggressively after this earlier post of hers:

Originally Posted by Izzy #

I disagree with the sentiment that you can never have too much joking. If the amount of joking is weighted against the actual playing, and is found to be heavier; then it is a bad time we will have in catching the wolves. As it means people can just hide behind the joke aspect of the game, which includes the wolves and cobblers. Then it will mean a tougher time distinguishing between actual joking around and showboat joking.

which, unless I'm completely misunderstanding something, seems to support Lottie's (and my own) uneasiness about Nerwen's jokes with good reasons. So whence the later attack on Lottie for saying that Nerwen's bantering looked like a disguise for evil? Wasn't she saying the same thing in other words?

And Nerwen, I'm sorry if I've come across as a humourless git, and I appreciate your playing according to the theme and all that, but it freaked me out because I found it impossible to get a read on you from that behaviour (not that it's that much easier when you're being serious, but still), and I suspected that could well be the purpose behind the whole act. The reason why I didn't actually vote you was that by voting time, I'd flip-flopped from "no she wouldn't" to "but then again, she might" and back to "but not really" so much that I wasn't sure myself anymore what I was currently thinking...
In clear Daylight, I'm inclined to think your performance yesterDay would fit a cobbler better than a wolf, and as the real cobbler is now accounted for, I'd have to say you look better toDay - if it wasn't for your vote driving the last nail into Lottie's coffin. Now that looks opportunistic to me...

[wilwarin538]

Wow. It's quite unusual for us to actually be happy about the person who dies at night, haha.


So first I have to comment on this post quite a bit, since it's bugging me, so I'm gonna get it out of the way right off the bat.

Originally Posted by Glirdan

Another post to throw me off kilter with Wilwa:

And then later, in the EXACT same post:

Why go out of your way to defend him and then do a complete 180 to discredit him? This post is too flip-floppy for me (which is hilarious considering that I'M usually the flip-floppy one!)

This is just wrong. I did not do a 180 in that post, because that first quote is certainly not me defending him, it's actually me making my case against him (yes, it was weak, but it was Day 1). I did in an earlier post say that his defense was all right, but my problem grew when he was making little, and somewhat useless posts instead of contributing. So my point became that if he knew he wouldn't be able to contribute that much later on because of RL, then he shouldn't have bothered making that long defensive post and should have talked about something else instead. I would not call that me "going out of my way to defend him".

And you're still the flip-floppy one.

Originally Posted by Glirdan

No, no there really is no difference at all. Hmmm......

Yes, yes there really is. If he voted me with some reason for suspecting me, then cool, whatever. But he didn't have anything against me except that I voted him, and that's not quite so cool.

Then Glirdan first says my optimism is typical innocent Wilwa, and then later in the EXACT same post (yes, I'm mocking) he says that that makes me look bad, because other people brought points against me for that. So he himself didn't find it suspicious, rather innocent looking actually, but later after seeing that others found it suspicious, now he does too. Yes, still the flip-floppy one.

Glirdan, if you insist on always suspecting me then please atleast try a bit harder to interpret what I say properly instead of twisting my words around, cause that only leads me to suspect you, and you're usually innocent when I suspect you, so I'd rather not continually be wrong.

Ok.

Originally Posted by Pitch

Joining wilwa in the optimist camp?

It's fun here guys, you know you want in.


I need to get some breakfast.

I'll be around randomly throughout the day.

[Pitchwife]

Concerning the other riders on the tragic wagon, it should be considered that Kit and Dury haven't played much (if at all) with Lottie before, and therefore may be excused for finding suspicious what looked to me at least more or less like typical regular ordo-Lottie. Not quite the same for Glirdan.

Others:

Originally Posted by Kit's list #140

Nogrod: voted Pitch, didn't really give a reason in the vote post (I'll dig it up later I suppose)

He didn't really have to, he'd been suspecting me for quite a while before because of me supporting Lottie and vice versa and me saying the wolves wouldn't do such a thing.
Having slept over it, I must admit his case against me doesn't look as fabricated as I thought yesterDay - meaning I sort of see how he got there; the only thing that's wrong with his theory is that it happens to be - well, wrong.

Boro and wilwa voting each other: it's obvious from the Night-kill that the wolves had no idea Boro was the cobbler (and isn't it sort of strange that they didn't even consider the possibility after yesterDay's controversy about his first post?), so I'm afraid wilwa's vote doesn't really tell us anything about her, neither pro nor con. It's quite clear, however, that Boro thought her innocent.

sally voting wilwa: consistent with her earlier suspicion of wilwa on the grounds of forced optimism. That's not that much of a reason, but seems OK for a Day 1 vote.

(x-ed with wilwa. Interesting points about Glirdan...)