Werewolf LXXII: Now There's the Truth of It! (Game Thread)

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

*blinks*

No posts? This makes me sad.

I was thinking we were supposed to wait til the narration was up.

Well, I feel badly now for suspecting Nienna, but at least we didn't lynch her. The wolves had to use a kill on her, and they're down one already on Day 2! Not a bad start at all.
It could be worthwhile to look back and see who expressed trust for Mira yesterDay, and gave her votes. All her packmates probably wouldn't have dared to be too obviously associated with her, but it's a good bet at least one of them might have shown a link.
Also, I wonder if our Simon, Fea will be sufficiently recovered to make an appearance.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I was thinking we were supposed to wait til the narration was up.

Well, I feel badly now for suspecting Nienna, but at least we didn't lynch her. The wolves had to use a kill on her, and they're down one already on Day 2! Not a bad start at all.
It could be worthwhile to look back and see who expressed trust for Mira yesterDay, and gave her votes. All her packmates probably wouldn't have dared to be too obviously associated with her, but it's a good bet at least one of them might have shown a link.
Also, I wonder if our Simon, Fea will be sufficiently recovered to make an appearance.

I think Fea died. Just a little, though.

Which reminds me....


Through the awesome power of Simon Fea, Wilwa's score has been boosted by two points. Everyone else is still at their normal zero. Just so's you all know.

[Glirdan]

So I figured I would check in quickly before heading off to bed and now I am quite happy that I did. It is sad that Nienna was killed during the Night for she definitely could have proved to have been of some great help to us, but at least she didn't die in vain! Day 2 and we are down to three Wolves: good fortune for us.

Maybe I can manage to stay up a little while longer to go over her and Mira's posts from yesterDay.

EDIT: Xed with Nerwen

[Glirdan]

So, going over the posts from yesterDay, concentrating on Mira, Nienna and Gwath. Posting the links to the post to by the way, in case any of you want to go back and read through them. Will make my comments afterwards.

So first, let's start with the Wolf.

Mira

Post #3

Second to post during our Night phase. Nothing substantial, just banter and telling everyone she would be away.

Post #20

Again, nothing, just saying she would not be around.

Post #27

Explaining her reasoning as to why she posted during the Night phase.

Post #80

First post with a little substance to it. There is a bit of banter, but there is one quote of our deceased Hunter that she brings up and agrees with.

Post #135

Quotes Fea (more banter really) and goes and casts her votes for myself, Fea, Form and Lottie. This is also her last post.

Comments
She played it low profile AND also happened to be one of the pre-Day posters. Perhaps one of her furry compatriots happens to be one of those that posted along with her. Two of those she voted for also happened to be two of those that posted during that time: Form and Lottie. However, I will eliminate Lottie from that as she only posted to tell everyone to shut their mouths. Perhaps taking a closer look at Form toDay would be in our best interest.

[Glirdan]

Now onto our Hunter:

Nienna

Post #15

Banter.

Post #25

Agrees with Nerwen about the pre-Day posters.


Post #39

Agrees with Nog about the lynching of a Wolf and how difficult it will be. Brings up the point that we should not just vote for who we think would be the best Simon, but who we don't want to see die.


Post #51

Quotes Pitch and agrees with his point that it would be bad to have a Wolf as our Simon but would not be tragic at this stage in the game. Goes on to say that we make sure that our votes go towards both a Simon and also making sure we lynch someone.

Post #61

Believes Nog has an interesting idea about our voting system, but does not believe that we should make it as elaborate.

Post #86

Playing mother and stopping a fight...reminds me of Bostonmoot.

Post #87

Post Count Tally


Post #90

Slight disagreement with Nerwen about voting.

Post #125

Vote Count Tally

Post #148

First vote which goes to Rune.

Post #155

Just confirming how many votes Nog had at that point.

Post #171

Her other three votes go to Wilwa, Form and Nog

Comments
Raised some valid points in most of her posts. She also talked agreed with Nog a lot as well which makes me more inclined to believe that he is innocent.

EDIT: X'd with Izzy and Lottie

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

Comments
Raised some valid points in most of her posts. She also talked agreed with Nog a lot as well which makes me more inclined to believe that he is innocent.

EDIT: X'd with Izzy and Lottie

Nice to know I'm not just silly and someone else noticed it, too...she does talk about/to him a lot, doesn't she? You'd almost think she was a seer and dreamed him...maybe that's why the wolves killed her, thinking she *was* the seer. Huh.

[Glirdan]

And last but not least

Gwath

Post #62

Bit of banter, but brings up the point that people's playing styles may be altered because of the nature of this game. Brings up another interesting point that for this game, we should reassess the way we analyze the votes.

Post #83

Quotes Eonwe


Post #84

Kind of pointless post really....nothing at all except what seems to be a thought continuation from his previous post.

Post #93

Banter.

Post #133

Votes for Eonwe, Nog, Brinn and Form.

Post #160

Clearing up confusion for himself.

Comments
After having gone through his and Nienna's posts, I'm even more inclined to trust Nog. I am also re-evaluating my thoughts on Form as that is two known innocents who put their trust into him. I think for now he is in my unsure list.

X'd with Lottie again.

And no, you're not silly...entirely

[Loslote]

Trust:
Lottie
Nog
Zil
Fea


Unsure, lean innocent:
Wilwa
Glirdy
Nerwen
Pitchie

Unsure, lean evil:
?Brinn
Formy
Izzy

Suspect:
Steve
Rune

EDIT: xed with Glirdy - I did not say I was not silly, I said I was not *just* silly.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nienna

Polo?

Pretty self explanatory.

Originally Posted by Nienna

I agree with Nerwen. The people who posted pre-Day are under just as much suspicion as the rest of us. Maybe in a few days that information can be used in conjunction with other evidence but for now they could be anything.

Doesn't want to draw conclusions about the Night-posters, but says it could be helpful to look back at it later.

Originally Posted by Nienna

I think Nog is right about the amount of cooperation it is going to take to lynch the wolves in this game. This worries me a little just because trying to get this many people to cooperate when there aren't evil ones in the midst would be a pain. We need to focus and make very conscious decisions about who to vote for. We need to look at everyone including the people who are quiet or who haven't even posted at all. We need to make sure that the votes are spread (I never thought I'd hear myself say that!). There is going to be a lot of confusion at Day's end even with the cautions against it. It is inevitable. It will be much too easy to get someone not-killed by both the innocent and the guilty alike.

We also need to think clearly about who we want as Simon though not necessarily use all our votes for people we think would make good Simons as we need to also vote for people we just don't want to die.

Agrees with Nog that end-of-Day will be chaotic; warns that the votes need to be spread out; advises looking at quiet people; calls for spreading of the votes; and advises clear thinking about Simon. (That seriously sounds like a Model UN resolution. I probably shouldn't be writing both at the same time.) All of that's good adivce. We should listen to her.

Originally Posted by Nienna

Electing a wolf as Simon won't be good but I also don't think it would be tragic... at least not at this stage of the game. We need to use our votes to pick someone who would be reasonable as Simon but we also need to make sure we use our votes to lynch someone. That is how we will get rid of wolves. That is how we will win.

Notices that elecing a wolf as Simon wouldn't be awful (good point again) and mentions that we need to purposefully lynch people (also a good point). She then follows it with the "That is how we will"s that people found so suspicious (Maybe look at the people who jumped on that).

Originally Posted by Nienna

I think Nog has an interesting idea. I don't know as it has to be something as [not] "official" as bolding or using -- but it is definitely a good idea for people to bring up who they think should be lynched and why so that we aren't just all scrambling and so that we have a sense of purpose.

In some respects it might be a touch easier as I usually find myself thinking that a few people seem innocent but I can't put my finger on one specific person who looks guilty... at least in the beginning stages. But we'll see.

Agrees with Nog's "announce who we want to lynch" idea; doesn't think it needs to be so official; likes Sally's voting.

Originally Posted by Nienna

Children, children... calm down... its fine... just a game.

Tries to calm down people, I think mostly Steve, Pitchie, and Nog.

Originally Posted by Nienna

So these are the post counts. It looks like everyone, except Fea, has made some sort of contribution.

Brinn - 1
Dun - 5
Fea - 1 - first post... not saying anything
Form - 2
Glirdan - 3
Gwath - 3
Izzy - 3
Lottie - 7
Mira - 4
Nerwen - 7
Nienna - 6
Nog - 11
Pitch - 5
Rune - 2
Steve - 12
Wilwa - 2

Does a post count.

Originally Posted by Nienna

Not entirely... I think that with 16 people and only 4 votes then one doesn't really find 12 people suspicious... or wolfish. They are just the people left over who you don't have confidence in or who you don't want to die.

Responding to Izzy. Not much there that I saw. Made a logical point.

Originally Posted by Nienna

*confuzzled*

Nog:
1. Gwath
2. ZIl
3. Nerwen
4. Nienna

Zil:
1. Nog
2. Nerwen
3. Brinn

Form:
1. Mira
2. Nerwen (3)
3. Steve
4. Lottie

Wilwa:
1. Glirdan
2. Fea
3. Nog (2)
4. Lottie (2)

Brinn:
1. Gilrdan (2)

Lottie:
1. Nienna (2)
2. Zil (2)

that is what I have.

Edit: Unless you are just doing post count

Corrects Alona's post count with a vote count.

Originally Posted by Nienna

Vote #1 for me:

++ Rune

I don't want to see him go this early in a game. I'd like to have at least another day with him.

Votes Rune because she wants to see him play more.

Originally Posted by Nienna

I have Nog at 3 as well.

Corrects how many votes Nog has.

Originally Posted by Nienna

Ok... so the rest of my votes:

++ Wilwa - because I think she would make a good Simon
++ Form - because I think he would also make a good Simon... if he paid slightly more attention
++ Nog - because he's been making good sense.

Votes Wilwa and Formy because she thought they would make good Simons and votes Nog because he made good sense.

~~~

Nog comes up a lot in Nienna's posts, and she seems to trust him fairly well. As a known innocent, Nienna's trust has a bit more weight than the rest of our trust (what with the whole "we could be trying to twist your little brains" thing), so I'm inclinded to think of Nog as someone to listen to with a bit of a "he's probably innocent" leaning.

Also, Nienna made some really good points in there. We should listen to her.

EDIT: xed with Glirdy and de-highlighting for the sake of Alona's sanity

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

It could be worthwhile to look back and see who expressed trust for Mira yesterDay, and gave her votes. All her packmates probably wouldn't have dared to be too obviously associated with her, but it's a good bet at least one of them might have shown a link.

Lottie (#30)
Nog (#41)
Wilwa (#56)
find her Night-posting not particularly suspicious.

Pitch (#92) lists her with Izzy, me, wilwa and "maybe Brinn" as those he trusts "to a slightly lesser degree".

However,
Nogrod (#96) lists her, along with Izzy, Pitch and Steve as "The ones I do suspect more or less... "

Steve (#118) simply lists her in his "unsure" category.

Formendacil (#110) votes for her (along with other Night-posters) "for not making me look like a complete idiot".

Loslote (#119) votes Zil and Nienna but "will probably not (but might be persuaded to) vote Formy, Nerwen, Mira, or Gwath".

Mira herself (#135) votes Glirdan, Fea, Lottie and Form. Her reasons may be of interest:

Originally Posted by Mirawolf

++Glirdan Also don't want him to get lynched Day 1. Poor kid never gets to play this game anymore.

++Fea She's much too amusing to kill off this early.

++Form I really don't think a wolf would slip up and post before they were supposed to. Especially one as experienced as Form.

++Lottie No real reason, just have an okay feeling about her.

Isabellkya (#143) votes Mira, along with Wilwa, Nienna and Zil "in an effort not to have a widespread tie".

And apparently somebody cast a third vote for Mira, but I can't find who that was.

EDIT:X'd with Moddess.
EDIT2:fixed mistake.