WWLXXI: Something in the Night (Attempt #2)

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

This screams Mrs Lovett to me, am I delusional??? I suppose I might be....

Going for real now, and yes I will have fun!

Oh. Lol no it's actually the Miss America theme tune thing.



Yay! (And there may or may not be a real Sweeney parody waiting for you when you get back.)

[Isabellkya]

*shrug*
You'll just have to wait and see, then eh.

The thing with the theory about how the pairings were set up.
Can you guarantee that they weren't random?
That gwath went oh, I think the pairings will be like "this, this, this."

Because doing things like that as non-random can lead to patterns. I think I've seen a pattern emerge in a game, perhaps once when roles and things were assigned randomly. That pattern emerged only when you put the players' names in alphabetical order, and it included shortened names. It was quite amusing.

Thought you could probably get into an entire discussion about how using a role-randomizer on the internet can't possibly be truly random. Because it would have to use a mathematical equation, and how do you make a mathematical equation give random results.

Such obvious patterns are icky in these types of games.
Also, theories about assumed information have already been proven to be incorrect.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

*shrug*
You'll just have to wait and see, then eh.

The thing with the theory about how the pairings were set up.
Can you guarantee that they weren't random?
That gwath went oh, I think the pairings will be like "this, this, this."

Because doing things like that as non-random can lead to patterns. I think I've seen a pattern emerge in a game, perhaps once when roles and things were assigned randomly. That pattern emerged only when you put the players' names in alphabetical order, and it included shortened names. It was quite amusing.

Thought you could probably get into an entire discussion about how using a role-randomizer on the internet can't possibly be truly random. Because it would have to use a mathematical equation, and how do you make a mathematical equation give random results.

Such obvious patterns are icky in these types of games.
Also, theories about assumed information have already been proven to be incorrect.

Oh yeah, totally. I just think it's possible Gwath wanted it to turn out a certain way. If not, meh, but it was fun speculating.


And at this point it hardly matters. Even if I'm dead come Morning (which hopefully I won't be) the village will have enough information to get your packies.

[satansaloser2005]

Btw, as loony as it sounds, my original plan was made assuming I'd be targeted again last Night. I figured I'd be screwed so I could just keep my knowledge to myself and let the lynch go any way it wanted (except Izzy or the ranger) and then leave the village with a free lynch toMorrow. That way they'd have more to base stuff on, and I'd be able to maybe flush out Izzy's packmates a bit. But alas, such was not the case. So you lot have to put up with me again toMorrow. ^_^

[Inziladun]

Ah! A nice welcome home after being gone all day.
First things first:

++Izzy

Now for a closer look at other things.

[satansaloser2005]

And now everyone's left me?

[satansaloser2005]

*whimpers*

I'm all alone, there's no one here beside me....etc.

[Inziladun]

Bloody hell. A lot of stuff about the lover pairings, which it's really hard to keep track of with a five year old little girl tugging on my sleeve .
So it seems clear we've got one wolf down. Of the other two, I'm leaning toward Shasta very possibly being one of them. I know he has RL stuff going, but he just feels like the classical submarine wolf: doing well at blending into the background quietly, avoiding controversy and notice.
Who else? Wilwa is starting to worry me. ToDay she seems to really be making a point of saying 'Look at me! I'm here! I'm helping!'
Also:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

This still bothers me. I'd happily die if it meant the Ranger could survive, especially since our Seer needs him so much. Yes wolves are our priority, but Sally can give us an advantage over the wolves, therefore keeping the Ranger alive keeps her alive and stays on track with our objective. I don't really get why he objected to this.

Admittedly, that was a knee-jerk reaction. I was thinking: 'Sally said she didn't have a wolf. So why would this be a good idea?' It made sense afterward, and I waited around for Sally, who ultimately didn't show up.

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Sally: I don't think the Ranger needs to hint to you whether they protected you or not, too risky for him, cause he needs to stay alive as long as possible so he can protect you as long as possible.

Want a cracker? Seems I saw that earlier toDay....

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Then if we go off of that it makes Nog a likely Wolf, since he "probably" isn't an ord, and since Sally has called the Ranger a "she", so he can't be gifted.

That doesn't sit well with me. I don't care for the scrutiny of Sally's wordings. I think she's got a plan going, and that looks too much like prying for prying's sake.

Let's see, what else?

Originally Posted by alonariel

Basically we were reading over how Lottie was going along with Sally's reveal and trusting it, and how Inzil was too, and then Lari (who also missed the clue in the narration until Shasta pointed it out to the both of us) wondered, "how do they know she was the target?" Because, ever since she started playing, she said that narrations never gave away who the attempted Night kills were.

I still don't see how anyone could have missed the fact that Sally was the intended target, when the use of the characters in the narrative was entirely consistent with the Day 1 narrative about Glirdan and Morsul.
Overall, though. I still don't know about alona. She's been here quite a bit toDay, and nothing new really stands out as evil, I'll say that much.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

If you lynch me - you lose. That simple.

Unless:
a) the ranger gives you one more Day to try
b) you're a wolf after some odd laziness by your real seer and then as a wolf you win

On the second one: Lottie was an ordinary innocent and I am an ordinary innocent. I do trust what the mod writes in the roles department after the narrations and the PM's he sends me concerning my role - so I tend to say I know it.

Also I know you don't know it. But I only said I know it.

I tend to be suspicious of people who make statements like 'You lose if I die.' It also worries me that he was not receptive to Sally's hints about who to vote for, knowing that she had a wolf, which forced Sally to reveal the dream earlier than she wanted. Then again, Wilwa was pushing for a reveal as well.
I feel pretty confident the final wolf is one of those two. And if Shasta's innocent, maybe both?