WWLXXI: Something in the Night (Attempt #2) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 01-15-2010, 04:52 PM

Another thing that makes me feel a bit suspicious started from this:

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Originally Posted by alona

Rikae: Admittedly scares me (in a good way, I think), so I'm glad to have her on my side in this game.

Now some others have commented on this already but I'm also a bit worried about Rikae's answer to that comment:

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Originally Posted by Rikae

The one thing that jumped out at me was alona's weird statement that we're on the same side. I doubt she'd be so obvious if she actually knew, so I'm inclined to think she knows the opposite - knows I'm not on her side, and hopes such hinting will win my trust.

But alona first. No ordo but a seer could say that - and a seer most likely wouldn't anyway unless she was to reveal (and this was before Sally came forwards anyway). Especially as she didn't say "I believe" or "I have a strong feeling", or "I have good vibes" but just plain and simple: "glad to have you on my side in this game". I know people think differently, but it's hard to see an ordo thinking like that in any circumstances, especially early on D2 basing her "knowledge" on Rikae's few posts she had made on D1!

But what about Rikae then? Now it looks like a really weird comment to suggest that alona would try to win her trust with that comment. And I guess Rikae realised it as she made a corrective move a bit later explaining alona's possible motivation a bit more. I just feel there is something fishy in there.

It could be within limits of believability that alona and Rikae actually are in cahoots here: alona made a major slip and Rikae tried to distance herself from her because of that.

Be that conspiracy theory as it may be, but I'm most probably going to vote alona again toDay. Not only because of that one thing with Rikae, but also looking at her so busy explaining herself time and time again and making comments I think were more fishy than not. I'll come back with some examples to show what I mean.

wilwarin538 · 01-15-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

It could be within limits of believability that alona and Rikae actually are in cahoots here: alona made a major slip and Rikae tried to distance herself from her because of that.

Because this is a possibility I would be willing to go along with an Alona lynch, but I'd rather wait and see what Sally has to say about who she claims to have dreamt of. A possibly known wolf would be much more fun to vote for.

I really have nothing to do right now, and really wish there was more going on here cause my brain is in WW mode and I can't get out

. (I've been spending the last 3 hours doing research for the next game I want to mod instead, since not much is happening on here.)

satansaloser2005 · 01-15-2010, 05:14 PM

Wording is everything. I said I wouldn't tell you I'd found two wolves because I haven't. Sorry. I wish I had.

wilwarin538 · 01-15-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Wording is everything. I said I wouldn't tell you I'd found two wolves because I haven't. Sorry. I wish I had.

Oh. Ok then.

So you dreamt of Glirdan then?

Who did you dream of last Night?

satansaloser2005 · 01-15-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Who did you dream of last Night?

The Ranger.

Alona, what are you thinking vote-wise?

wilwarin538 · 01-15-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

The Ranger.

Alona, what are you thinking vote-wise?

Oh. Well at least the Ranger can protect you again toNight, and hopefully you can dream a wolf, or atleast dream an innocent that would be safe to reveal the identity of.

Now that you don't have a wolf to give us I'm not really sure who to vote for. Alona maybe, because of the case Nog made against her, though Shasta isn't sitting well with me either as I said before. I still have a few hours though to think about it.

Inziladun · 01-15-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Wording is everything. I said I wouldn't tell you I'd found two wolves because I haven't. Sorry. I wish I had.

You ought to be lynched just for that.

wilwarin538 · 01-15-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

You ought to be lynched just for that.

She's Sally. 'nuff said.

Inziladun · 01-15-2010, 05:24 PM

But anyway, can you at least give us another innocent, Sally? Assuming you really are the Seer?

Nogrod · 01-15-2010, 05:43 PM

Bedtime.

As Sally has not declared her innocent...

++ alona

For reasons above.

I've had a few terribly busy days now but that's the RL sometimes intruding with a game of werewolf. It should slowly ease up though.

Nogrod · 01-15-2010, 05:47 PM

If someone hasn't noticed this, pay heed:

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Originally Posted by Gwath, concerning the ranger

they may protect the same person no more than two nights in a row. They may protect themselves once only during the game.

So we'll have Sally around toMorrow as well. Make your dream a good one Sally!

Inziladun · 01-15-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Bedtime.

As Sally has not declared her innocent...

++ alona

For reasons above.

You do make some good points about alon. That remark of hers was bizarre, and not very convincingly explained. Good catch on the Ranger rules as well.
Though alon has emerged as someone to wonder about, I'm pretty well convinced Loslote is evil, unless Sally vouches for her.
As an aside, I think all the people repeatedly declaring their innocence are evil.

Nogrod · 01-15-2010, 05:24 PM

On alona on D2

In the beginning there is basically just some odd air around her posting - something giving me a bit similar kind of feelings she gave me yesterDay, but maybe more. Like answering the question of her role with: "Plain ordo like last game, I'm afraid."

or "wondering" why the wolves didn't kill her during the Night (why would they?).

But then her own explanation to Sally's question why she was so sure Rikae was on her side is interesting to say the least:

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Originally Posted by alona

I just meant we're on the side of innocents. All I know is whenever I'm evil, Rikae knows it like the back of her hand. And if she is evil...eek, well then I'm totally screwed. But I'm not really getting that vibe, hence my goodwill statement that we're on the same side.

"I just meant we're on the side of innocents"!!! Now what? If you're an innocent alona that sentence is not adding anything to what you said earlier - and doesn't explain it in any way.

But why do you feel the need to say that what you really meant, was that you both are innocents?

And it is an intresting way to phrase a "goodwill statement" by saying you "know" the other is on the same side as you...

It's hard to believe in your sincerity here alona as the other explanation would fit so nicely.

Then she tried to turn the attention to Lottie on the issue of whether Morsul and Sally were "cleared". And when it backfired she turned into suspecting Sally's innocence with some dedication.

And this sounds like a disappointed wolf brooding over unfair rules:

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Originally Posted by alona

But are we even allowed to know who the wolves tried to Night kill? That would be like knowing who the Seer dreamed of or who the Hunter was hunting.

The last posts she has been mainly defending herself...

At this point of the game she's truly my best bet for a wolf. Especially because of that above quote where she answered the question on why she was so sure about Rikae being on the same side.

And if she is lynched and turns out a wolf, I think we should really look at Rikae closely toMorrow.

01-15-2010, 05:14 PM	#3
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Wording is everything. I said I wouldn't tell you I'd found two wolves because I haven't. Sorry. I wish I had. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

01-15-2010, 05:24 PM	#9
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	But anyway, can you at least give us another innocent, Sally? Assuming you really are the Seer? __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God. Last edited by Inziladun; 01-15-2010 at 05:34 PM. Reason: x/d with Nog

01-15-2010, 05:43 PM	#10
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Bedtime. As Sally has not declared her innocent... ++ alona For reasons above. I've had a few terribly busy days now but that's the RL sometimes intruding with a game of werewolf. It should slowly ease up though. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...