WWLXXI: Something in the Night (Attempt #2)

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Have we stepped into the Twilight Zone?
I just noticed that Nog has the least amount of posts in the thread.
Is he going to have to Nilp himself via his submarine philosophy?

Seeing as it's Day 2, he might just be saved. Otherwise, I guess I would have to say goodbye to my former Lover...

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Loslote

I did not misrepresent Wilwa's words. In the post where she suggested revealing pm pals, she also considered fake revealing or voting herself. In my mind, that counts a joking.

Exactly.


So we're revealing Lovers then, well anyone who read yesterday's posts closely would already know this:

Wilwa/Morsul

I really wish I had not been so exhausted and could have stayed up. Cause Morsul had told me his role earlier in the day, I may have been able to stop people voting him if I had been around.


So Sally as the kill choice then, well thank you Ranger! I suppose with such a small village the chance of a Ranger save is more likely, which is wonderful. Usually wolves try and go for a *safe* kill choice on Night 1, and I'm sure there were some who qualified as such. But Sally does still kinda make sense as a kill choice, it could be that the wolves were trying to set up Shasta, which would make Shasta look innocent. Or he's just being sneaky by doing something obvious, knowing we'd think it was too obvious and think him innocent. And the fact that he's upset about Alona revealing they're Lovers is kinda odd, I don't really see it as being that big of deal.

I will be back in a little bit, my mother's making me breakfast.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

If I was a wolf I'd kill off my lover, to be honest. I mean, really. A seer lover would likely want to dream their partner, so it's in the wolves interest to (at least in the absence of a better kill) get rid of any unwanted attention. So my theory is that if we know everyone's lovers maybe we'll be able to figure out at least some sort of pattern in yesterDay's activities.

I don't quite see the logic here. I agree that a Seer would be likely to dream their partner early on, if not first, but the odds are against the Seer being paired with a wolf. The wolves might be happy to be rid of a partner that could glean useful information about them, but they might also be thinking they could mainipulate their partner to their advantage. But, since you already know mine is Lari, it's a moot point.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Is happy about the Ranger save and says the first thing is to establish why they were after Sally. Wants to look at the dl stuff. Honestly, that doesn't seem all that helpful to me, since at the dl it was just Sally and Morsul, and they're both cleared already.

Obviously there was some reason she was targeted. Even though Morsul and Glirdan are gone, and both were innocent, you don't see the sense in looking for anything a wolf might have keyed in on? It was worth a try, at least.

Originally Posted by Lariren Shadow

As for knowing who was the attempted Night kill I want to hear back from Gwath. Yes, it was Sally's character, but does that really mean she was the Night kill or was Gwath using the name for narration.

I never considered Sandy might not refer to Sally. Both Glirdan and Morsul were referred to in-character in their narration, so why would that not be the case with Sally?

[wilwarin538]

Since nothing is happening I'm just gonna make a list...

Sally: very likely innocent

Shasta: makes me a bit uneasy, it seems like a Sally kill could have been an obvious attempt to set him up, and so I see it as possible that he was trying to set himself up to look good (I know that's a big stretch, I won't base a vote purely on that). And him not liking Alona revealing thier Loverness is kinda odd, since it isn't really that big a deal at this point.

Alona: sits quite well with me, I like that she posts so much

Rikae: is intense, and very Rikae-like, so I'm fairly good so far (I can't get over how different she is in RL)

Izzy: is completely under my radar, which is usual for me, so I'll try and pay closer attention for her

Nog: hasn't really been around much, so I don't know

Lottie: feel quite good about her today, I like her abundance of posts

Inzil: he makes me uneasy, but that's more of a feeling then anything else

Lari: her vote yesterday was a bit weird, but I get that at the time she thought it was deadline, so I'm not too worried


So......I don't really have much right now. I need posts people.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Mostly it's that the inclusion of Lovers into this game had such possibility, and now there's really no point to it. Kind of ruins one of Gwath's game mechanics. For example, had lovers not been revealed, and I'd been the Seer, I could have easily funneled my dreams through Alona without revealing myself.

Sally, I'm not even seeing what knowing whose lover is who is going to tell us, considering wolves can be paired with innocents. What was your point in making everyone reveal?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Mostly it's that the inclusion of Lovers into this game had such possibility, and now there's really no point to it. Kind of ruins one of Gwath's game mechanics. For example, had lovers not been revealed, and I'd been the Seer, I could have easily funneled my dreams through Alona without revealing myself.

Sally, I'm not even seeing what knowing whose lover is who is going to tell us, considering wolves can be paired with innocents. What was your point in making everyone reveal?

Well I realized after I'd PM'd Gwath that 'anyone' can be paired with 'anyone'. I was under the assumption (for whatever silly reason) that wolves wouldn't be paired with each other. Erm, whoops? *headdesks* If they hadn't, however, we would have been able to deduce that if partner A is not a wolf partner B must be (or at least has a darn good chance). However I was just the least bit mistaken.


Internet hates me. Blah. Also, I'm babysitting tonight so I won't be around for the last 6.5 hours of the Day. That being said, I'm obviously going to have to vote early.

I wonder if there's any way the wolves would be stupid enough to not kill me toNight. Wilwa, if you're one of them and you let me live, I'll send you those cookies!

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I wonder if there's any way the wolves would be stupid enough to not kill me toNight. Wilwa, if you're one of them and you let me live, I'll send you those cookies!

I would really, really love for this to be the issue, but probably not...that's only a mistake a newbie wolf would make, and sadly I'm not a wolf this game. I just hope we could get a few more clues before the end of the Day.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Well I realized after I'd PM'd Gwath that 'anyone' can be paired with 'anyone'. I was under the assumption (for whatever silly reason) that wolves wouldn't be paired with each other. Erm, whoops? *headdesks* If they hadn't, however, we would have been able to deduce that if partner A is not a wolf partner B must be (or at least has a darn good chance). However I was just the least bit mistaken.

I still don't understand the math of how we would have been able to do this...?

And where are Nog and Rikae...?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Mostly it's that the inclusion of Lovers into this game had such possibility, and now there's really no point to it. Kind of ruins one of Gwath's game mechanics. For example, had lovers not been revealed, and I'd been the Seer, I could have easily funneled my dreams through Alona without revealing myself.

Sally, I'm not even seeing what knowing whose lover is who is going to tell us, considering wolves can be paired with innocents. What was your point in making everyone reveal?

Yeah, but why make things easy for the gifteds?

[satansaloser2005]

Dang it. I have to leave soon-ish. Where is everyone?

[satansaloser2005]

Fine then. You all suck.

You probably have already guessed this, but I'm the seer, and there's no way I'm surviving anyway so it doesn't matter if I tell you.

However, since none of you are posting I'm not telling you that I dreamt two wolves.



Toodles. Be back later if I can.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Fine then. You all suck.

You probably have already guessed this, but I'm the seer, and there's no way I'm surviving anyway so it doesn't matter if I tell you.

However, since none of you are posting I'm not telling you that I dreamt two wolves.



Toodles. Be back later if I can.

I've been posting! Tell me! Tell me!

Though, if you don't come back I'm gonna go ahead and assume that the 2 wolves are the two on your list under "Could easily vote for".

But one thing that doesn't make sense is you say you dreamt 2 wolves, and there's been only 2 nights so that's very well possible. But then why were you so sure about Glirdan, when you couldn't have dreamt him, and couldn't have known for sure that he wasn't the third wolf?

I'm inclined to believe you for now, but that part doesn't really make sense to me dear.

[Isabellkya]

I'm a bit confused about the connection between Shasta and Sally. He tried to kill her, so it would point the finger at him; which would be obvious and thus looked at like a set-up. Thus making himself looking more innocent because of it. Seems like a convoluted mess, with a bunch of thens.

I had a similar thought round one. When I was under the impression that only ordos could be paired with wolves. It was quite a scary notion. Because then the wolves would know that their partners were ordos, and if they were capable of sharing whom their lovers were - they could easily rule out three people as not being gifted. Thus leaving them six players to choose from to be a gifted. With three gifteds, it would've been a 50% chance of hitting a gifted night two. Not taking into consideration whomever was lynched. If a non-wolf paired player was lynched, the odds of hitting a gifted would've been higher. Thankfully that wasn't/isn't the case.

o.O

[Isabellkya]

Haven't people said similar things in other games?
Such as "x is good to have on y side, because they post a lot." or "x is bad to have on y side, if I'm on z side - because they figure me out so easily."

I do see the explaining part. She seems to be having to clarify, or elaborate on things a lot.

A flaw I see on that plan Wilwa is that it won't give us much information to go on toMorrow. If the person picked by Sally is not a wolf, then I imagine the wolves will have no problem in going along with it. I imagine they probably won't have much problem with it, even if it is a wolf - so they could try and blend in with the crowd.

Lynching a wolf is priority. If we can't get one, an ordo is better than a gifted.

I got halfway through a list, and it was mostly "no reads."
So I started over with just a placement on a scale from innocent -> woof woof. Then I started a list again, because I had comments too.

Nog - I'd put him in the middle. I can't get a good read on him, probably due to his busy schedule.

Inziluadun - He seems like a lurker to me. He hasn't gone after me, so I can't help but think he isn't a wolf. Since the last time I think I played with him, he was a wolf - and went after me.

Shasta - Search party? Where's Waldo, but with a turquoise hat and shirt.

Rikae - Same as Nog pretty much. The middle.

alonariel - She flip-flopped earlier in terms of the Sally being cleared and the narration. I don't buy her explanation for it. But as I'm not in her head, nor know her circumstances, I can't push her towards the lupinity group because of it.

Sally - She is Sally... and I can't help but be disappointed that her reveal seemed to be less dramatic than usual. Most reveals are met with a dramatic pause.. or something.

Loslote - I keep wanting to type Lostlote, and I get her, Wilwarin, and alonariel mixed up. She is kind of chafing me, but I think that is just her approach to finding wolves?

Wilwarin - I'm still confused on the whole Shasta deal.

Lariren - She is playing.


So If I had to vote right now. I'd probably vote for Wilwa, Loslote or maybe alonariel. I think my thoughts are muddled on the three, since I keep getting them mixed up.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Wilwarin - I'm still confused on the whole Shasta deal.

Hmm???

Interesting. Still not admitting that she is, thus leaving the possibility for doubt open.

This statement doesn't make sense to me. Are you saying Sally hasn't admitted that she is the Seer, cause I think she has quite clearly? I must be misunderstanding you somehow...