WWLXXI: Something in the Night (Attempt #2)

[Morsul the Dark]

Tie is never mentioned in the thread. however Tradition states in the case of ties the person who First got the votes gets lynched,,, and even if for some unknown reason Both people are lynched I'm still gone... Thirdly... well there is no third.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Tie is never mentioned in the thread. however Tradition states in the case of ties the person who First got the votes gets lynched,,, and even if for some unknown reason Both people are lynched I'm still gone... Thirdly... well there is no third.

Well some mods do a coin toss, and others (who are weird ) like to do the last person to receive vote count as the lynchee. Each mod is different.


Erm, I feel squicked by this now. I'm going to think for a couple minutes.

[Morsul the Dark]

I'll take down my Grimoire post... but I'm copying it ready to paste it

[satansaloser2005]

I face a dilemma.

I'm a bit of a meta-brain by nature and I won't lie about it. I keep meta-stuff out as much as possible, but I can't get rid of it now. Anyway, the point is that I'm trying to decide whether or not to seal Morsul's fate. Here's some questions.

Should we keep him around? If so, why? Why not?
How does the hunter in this game even work? (Obviously a question for Gwath.) Does he take down anyone, or just a wolf?
If he's really the hunter why hasn't he told us his target?
Why did he not speak up sooner? (And did he really have the chance? And should he even?)
Is it completely wrong to lynch him now?
Am I insane? (Please leave this one blank.)

ETA: x'd with Morsul. Am I being a complete cow or is this bothering anyone else? I'm so bloody confused lol.

[satansaloser2005]

It'll drive me bonkers otherwise.

Morsul, tell us who your pick is at least. If I don't hear a worthwhile case for why I should save you in the next five minutes or so you're dying.

[satansaloser2005]

*taps screen*

Erm, hello? Is anyone out there?

*whimpers*

Mummy, I'm scared of the dark. Don't leave me all alone.

[Morsul the Dark]

I'm here... I know not much comfort

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

I'm here... I know not much comfort

Lol. Well better than no one I suppose.

*snuggles you*

You know I'm still gonna have to lynch you, right?

[Isabellkya]

It looks from the narration like Sandy was going to get shot, until a person on a motorcycle interceded. Since there was no death, it looks like a Ranger save. It also looks like Sandy aka Sally was the intended target. Then further down it says the personal pronouns are for ease of narration. I assume in regards to the savior biker? Since Sandy was referred to by name, and not by gender alone? Or was the name picked by random, and we're just thirsty for narration information.

All of these pickle references. Talking about them on the thread, and I keep seeing commercials for them. Though for Vlasic, which those are just.. ewww.

I disagree that it would be "in the wolves interest to (at least in the absence of a better kill) get rid of any unwanted attention." in regards to killing their lovers. It seems like a mighty large trail that they would be leaving behind. I can't imagine them being such generous (and obvious,) Hansel and Gretels.

Originally Posted by loslote

Questioning how Wilwa knew there would be no wolf/gifted pairings; banter with Izzy. This also says nothing. "You're maybe right, but I don't know how you could be so sure." Maybe, but maybe not.

That wasn't banter with me. That was towards Rikae and her reveal of the two of us as lovers/PMPals.

My vote upon Shasta was half random and half tradition. I didn't have a suspect, and I didn't want to vote for someone whom already had a vote. Day ones don't really come with loads of information, especially slow days - so they are essentially random. So somewhere along the werewolf playing line, voting for Shasta on day one became a tradition, a habit. Not one hundred percent of the time, but a high percentage.

If Sally was indeed the target for the wolves, then it pretty much clears her as being one of them. Wolves don't attack their mates during the Night. At least, I can't recall it ever happening purposely.. Here, we don't have Bus Drivers and list switchers, so that rules out that option.

I took what Inziladun said, as looking at what Sally said on Day One, to see what would've made her a tasty looking morsel for the wolves?


alonariel
In #102
Have to say I think the Ranger save last Night gives us a shot at winning this game! And besides, who would keep us all entertained around here if Sally were gone?

- I assume you are saying that Sally was the wolves' choice?

yet in #139
Second, how do you know that Sally was the Night 2 kill choice? Where is the evidence for this?


In #141
Ah, okay I guess the narration gave this away, as Shasta pointed out. But I'm sitting with Lari here right now and she tells me that narrations generally don't point out specifically who the attempted Night kill was...however, this might be a different situation, as we've all been finding out.


- Why are you flipflopping?

[Isabellkya]

Have we stepped into the Twilight Zone?
I just noticed that Nog has the least amount of posts in the thread.
Is he going to have to Nilp himself via his submarine philosophy?

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Why are you flipflopping?

Because Inzil stated in post #99 that Sally was the intended kill. At the time, I went with it. My debate with Lottie about Sally's innocence didn't spark up for a few hours later and, if you'll forgive me, I'm battling less-than-great RL issues and a barking cough at the moment. I think I forgot about my witty banter post at the beginning of the Day. My memory is terrible on a good day - Lari can attest to this.

[Morsul the Dark]

I would not reveal my target because if I did and it were an innocent of course the wolves would kill me anyway.. otherwise they would leave me alone and I know... or think I know a probable wolf. being a revealed huner just might add to your annoyance and most importantly I got three votes within a half hour there was no time to defend myself really...


That answer your questions?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

I would not reveal my target because if I did and it were an innocent of course the wolves would kill me anyway.. otherwise they would leave me alone and I know... or think I know a probable wolf. being a revealed huner just might add to your annoyance and most importantly I got three votes within a half hour there was no time to defend myself really...


That answer your questions?

Yes, but if you're killed toDay and you've chosen someone and they don't die we have a known innocent, which in a game this small can mean a lot if they're kept alive even for a Day or two. And if you think you've got a wolf you may as well say it because they'll go down with you. You're not helping your case, mate.

[Morsul the Dark]

Glirdan would be my target. But if he's innocent two things could happen... one they take me out with the innocent therefore losing you two maybe three people(considerring tonight's outcome)

Or they leave me alone we think Glirdan is a wolfbecause of it and lose him tomorrow then they kill me off with hopefully an innocent and that's pretty much the end of the game

And If he's a wolf they leave me alive till the end knowing my track record of lousy votes.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Glirdan would be my target. But if he's innocent two things could happen... one they take me out with the innocent therefore losing you two maybe three people(considerring tonight's outcome)

Or they leave me alone we think Glirdan is a wolfbecause of it and lose him tomorrow then they kill me off with hopefully an innocent and that's pretty much the end of the game

And If he's a wolf they leave me alive till the end knowing my track record of lousy votes.

Gwath, I want an explanation before I vote. Can I have that?

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Plgh. I keep thinking that deadline is at nine, not in less than ten minutes.

Ahh, okay. I must've missed that. I suppose I should clarify. What is your opinion on her vote reasoning. As she essentially voted for one whom came online, noticed lack of posts, then didn't contribute to the post count number. Which you are condemning me for mentioning. xD

I've got to vote now.
++Shasta

Somewhat random. I know he can contribute more, Mister!

X'd with Glirdan and mistyped Shasta's name.

Has she ever mentioned Shasta before? Not that I saw, at least, but I could be mistaken. Izzy? Or it's a gutfeeling, random vote, which, although not horrible, isn't great either. Not picking up too much here.

Originally Posted by Lariren Shadow

Ah! Deadline?!

++Shasta

Really, just pulling a name out here.

She didn't cross with Izzy. If dl really was right when she posted, she would have cemented Shasta's death. If it weren't a hasty, random vote, it would look pretty bandwaggony. But it was a hasty and random vote, so I don't know what to think. She later says:

Originally Posted by Lariren Shadow

Well then, I have no idea if retracting votes is allowed, but

--Shasta

I don't really want to vote for him, mostly because that was just a "aaaahhhh deadline" decision.

Right. So. What does this mean? She doesn't really want to vote him, and she wasn't on the lynch possibilities list. Maybe a packmate was, though, and though she wanted to save xem, she also didn't want to be suspicious herself.

So for right now, Lari looks suspicious to me, but Izzy doesn't really. Izzy could easily change; Lari not so much.

[Loslote]

Probably Guilty
Zil
Lari

Possibly Guilty
Shasta
Izzy

Not a Clue
Nog
Rikae
Alona

Possibly Innocent
Wilwa

Probably Innocent
Sally
Lottie (Nore of a definitely, but I'm not going to bother making a new heading.)

Well, alright then. Probably going to vote Zil or Lari, but could be persuaded to vote Shasta, or Izzy. I will not vote Wilwa, Sally, or myself, and it would take a seer reveal or something similar to make me vote Nog, Rikae, or Alona.

EDIT: xed with Alona and Sally - yay!

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by alonariel

I know Morsul was cleared after his death, but how could you know that Sally was cleared already? This statement doesn't make sense unless you have more information...

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I think she means that when Dun made that statement the attempt had already been made on my life, so we already knew I wasn't a wolf.

Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry. I meant that Zil wanted to look at the interactions of two known innocents, and that didn't seem all that helpful to me.

[Loslote]

Shasta has moved down to Unsure because of Lari voting him.
Izzy because of the dl voting, but she's barely above Unsure, too.
Nog is in Not-a-Clue because I haven't a clue what he is. Same for Rikae and Alona.
Wilwa is under possibly innocent for no good reason other than I think her innocent, and don't suspect her at all.
Sally's innocent because of the narration.
I'm innocent because I'm just cool that way. (Seriously, though, never been evil, and proud of it. )

[alonariel]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Right. So. What does this mean? She doesn't really want to vote him, and she wasn't on the lynch possibilities list. Maybe a packmate was, though, and though she wanted to save xem, she also didn't want to be suspicious herself.

Though I've only played with Lari in one game before, I know she's the type - like me - to make on-the-spot decisions when a DL is close. I can see how you might suspect her, but I think it was just an honest mistake on her part. The DL was 9PM last game, 8PM this game then changed to 10PM a few hours before the DL yesterDay. Even I'm confused a little there.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by alonariel

Though I've only played with Lari in one game before, I know she's the type - like me - to make on-the-spot decisions when a DL is close. I can see how you might suspect her, but I think it was just an honest mistake on her part. The DL was 9PM last game, 8PM this game then changed to 10PM a few hours before the DL yesterDay. Even I'm confused a little there.

Point noted. The split second decision isn't the issue - I don't mind Izzy doing the same - it's the hint of bandwaggoning that alarms me. Lari kind of jumped on Izzy's vote, and that would have killed Shasta if the dl really was then.

EDIT: xed with alona