WWLXXI: Something in the Night (Attempt #2)

[Lariren Shadow]

While the lack of posts means people are not saying anything, its kind of good for those who had to work and are now getting caught up *cough*me*cough*.

Anyway, as for revealing our PM buddies, I don't really see what that does to the game. So you know who's talking to who and sharing ideas in private. Or you know who is manipulating who. Either way, what does that information do for catching wolves? And, lets be honest, the Seer is the only one who can really know the role of their partner.

I have no read on the people here. Other than the fact that Shasta looks shifty...and that is all meta game <3.

I really have no read on anyone. There hasn't been a lot said.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

So, there really isn't much going on now is there.....do I have to say something controversial to get this thing rolling? OK then, here goes...

I think everyone should reveal who their Lover/Pen Pal is, just to get everything out in the open! Honesty is of course the best policy and all.


If that doesn't stir something up I may have to resort to voting randomly for someone...or maybe voting for myself....or maybe false reveal as something.....cause something exciting obviously needs to happen in order for people to start talking....

This is where she first brought it up. This seems rather innocent to me, and I don't see any reason to suspect her for what seems to have been said in a very joking tone.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Outing the 'PM Pals', hmm? I suppose we could, but what would it accomplish?

The first reaction. Inzil takes it seriously but asks what purpose it would serve. I must admit, this struck me as kind of evil at the time.

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Probably nothing but confusion. I just wanted to get some form of a discussion started and that was the first thing I thought of.

Wilwa restates that she was joking.

Originally Posted by Rikae

I like the idea of outing the pm-pals. At least it gives us something to talk about, and I definitely need something to restore my enthusiasm over the disappointing turn of the last game. I'll go first - mine is Izzy. You're all free to believe or disbelieve me as you see fit.

Rikae also likes the idea, and goes so far as to reveal that Izzy is her penpal. This seems a tad bit evil, as well, but to doesn't feel quite as bad to me as Inzil's.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Hmmmm. I'm not sure I like that idea. I mean there's nothing wrong with it, but I don't see why we necessarily should either. Meh.

Sally doesn't like the idea very much and wonders what use it would be. Knee-jerk reaction: innocent.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

About revealing the pen-pals... hmm. Hard to say as there seems to be no immediate pros or cons: it might help the wolves planning their kills but it might also help us with some possible combinations I think. Needs some thinking as well.

Nog sees both sides. I have no idea what this means, evil or innocent.

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

And I'm fine if people want to reveal their PM Pals (it was just a suggestion to get discussion started), but I won't say who mine is cause I'm not sure he'd be ok with that, but if he comes on and sees this and wants to say we're PM Pals then he can go ahead and do that, I won't mind.

Wilwa's tone here seems to suggest that she didn't expect the idea to take off so fast and she's a bit alarmed. Kind of innocent, kind of evil.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

That's the problem. There can be things we can try and learn about our pen pals as the game goes on but at least now it's probably quite futile. And if we reveal all the pen pals right now it might affect the way the wolves communicate via PM's - and not for the more "readable" direction - well saying this out aloud might have a similar kind of effect as well now as I think of it.

Again, debating whether or not to reveal penpal. He seems to decide against it, but not too decisively.

Originally Posted by Glirdan

Although I do find Wilwa's posts rather interesting....why suggest that we all reveal who are partners are? Would that not defeat the purpose of the mod god's game and narrations?

Glirdan also doesn't see the point. Knee-jerk: I have no idea. Could be either, since only one person had revealed at this point and it probably wouldn't do much good to jump on it.

Originally Posted by Lariren Shadow

Anyway, as for revealing our PM buddies, I don't really see what that does to the game. So you know who's talking to who and sharing ideas in private. Or you know who is manipulating who. Either way, what does that information do for catching wolves? And, lets be honest, the Seer is the only one who can really know the role of their partner.

Lari doesn't see the point and doesn't think it would be helpful. See Glirdan's for reaction.


So right now, my top suspect is Inzil, but Lari, Glirdan, or Nog could also be wolves, and that's only based on the Pen Pal Debates.

I think I'll go look at Zil now.

[Loslote]

*scowls* This was way too short.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I can only speak for myself, but the answer here is a definite no. Just a poor Working Stiff.

And bravo, Lottie. The only thing missing is the melody! By the way, was that based upon something else, or was it a Lottie Original?
So, this is it so far? I'll be back when more of the young people begin to stir.

Aww! Thanks!

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Wilwa- Guilty for making lists.

Still nothing of note? This is disappointing, even for Day 1. It does look likely I'll be making a shot in the dark by voting for a sub, at this rate.
Outing the 'PM Pals', hmm? I suppose we could, but what would it accomplish?

EDIT-had to remove one of Wilwa's smilies to allow one of my own

Talked about this before. It looks suspicious to me. It walks the border and doesn't say much of anything.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I was wondering the same thing, Wilwa. You're may be right, but I don't know how you could be so sure.

Izzy, hm? Well, I would ask you if she's said anything interesting, or, even better, lupine, but then, how do I know you're not a wolf?
This is why I don't see what this gains us. We're flying blind both ways, here and with our PM Pals.

x/d with Nog and Wilwa

Now he doesn't like the idea; banter with Izzy. That's all he posted.

I've got to go. I should be back before dl, but just in case:

++Zil

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

One who pops out the most would be Izzy for two different reasons. One, she was the first to point it out. Two, she herself has posted very little. Why make the accusations when you yourself are doing so as well? Perhaps to hide a furry secret?

To be fair, I think she also said there were four wolves, so I'm not sure if she was entirely serious about that.

Originally Posted by Glirdan

Although I do find Wilwa's posts rather interesting....why suggest that we all reveal who are partners are? Would that not defeat the purpose of the mod god's game and narrations?

Wilwa said she was basically just trying to get people posting, and it appears she was somewhat successful. I didn't think she was all that enthused about it herself, just trying to get reactions.

Originally Posted by Loslote

The first reaction. Inzil takes it seriously but asks what purpose it would serve. I must admit, this struck me as kind of evil at the time.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Sally doesn't like the idea very much and wonders what use it would be. Knee-jerk reaction: innocent.

Originally Posted by Loslote

So right now, my top suspect is Inzil, but Lari, Glirdan, or Nog could also be wolves, and that's only based on the Pen Pal Debates.

So, Sally and I say practically the same thing, yet somehow I'm evil and she isn't?

x/d with Lottie (ah! my first vote!) and Glirdan

[Rikae]

Loslote, you say

Originally Posted by Loslote

Wilwa restates that she was joking.

of this:

Originally Posted by Wilwa

Probably nothing but confusion. I just wanted to get some form of a discussion started and that was the first thing I thought of.

How do you interpret this as Wilwa "restating" (especially when she never said it in the first place) that she's joking? Trying to get conversation started is not the same thing as joking; an actual "joke" would probably do nothing to start conversation, since it isn't worth responding to at all.
It almost looks like you're trying to cover Wilwa's tracks for her.

[Glirdan]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Trying to get conversation started is not the same thing as joking; an actual "joke" would probably do nothing to start conversation, since it isn't worth responding to at all. It almost looks like you're trying to cover Wilwa's tracks for her.

Or maybe Lottie is trying to make us think this way? What if really, Lottie is just trying to sway us into thinking that Wilwa is a Wolf? Just playing devil's advocate here.

[Rikae]

Glirdan, either way, Lottie would be making herself look wolfish in the process... and there's no cobbler, is there?

[Glirdan]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Glirdan, either way, Lottie would be making herself look wolfish in the process... and there's no cobbler, is there?

As I said, devil's advocate. And no, there is no Cobbler.

[Rikae]

I have to go now - I'm going to go with my gut. Tough to explain, but my initial impression has been reinforced by his newer posts:

++Glirdan

Good night/Night!

[Isabellkya]

I'm here and catching up on some posts I see.
My grand/parents just walked through the door about an hour ago, and have been entertaining them for a bit.


Just to clarify. I was not making an argument about/towards the four whom in succession came on and posted essentially the same thing. I was making an observation.

I'm not entirely sure how much substance you are expecting on a re-day one; when it seems half the population has other commitments. I'm sure one day science will make advances in telepathy - so we can monitor ww via our minds. xD

In relation to the PM/Pen-Pals.
I don't mind that Rikae and our penship was revealed. I'm not entirely sure how revealing or not revealing could help in any way. What advantages and disadvantages could come about from either choice.

x'd with Inziladun

[Morsul the Dark]

here...reading... so what exactly happened... I have Pms from two people claiming to be my buddy... and this is "attempt 2"...

[Glirdan]

Okay...so....so far we have two votes:

Vote for/ Vote by

1. Alona - Nogrod
2. Sally - Wilwa

Bot are rather safe votes seeing as neither Sally nor Alona have been able to get on to defend themselves, let alone post. However...I do believe that this is mainly due to the time zone differences and thus I am inclined to believe at this point that neither of these to voter's are Wolves. At least not at this time.

Which leaves everyone else.

Sally, Alona, Lottie and Lari have hardly posted at this point in the game. In fact, Lari and Lottie have just posted (good to hear from you by the way ) and I do believe that Sally and Alona will be on sooner or later to defend themselves and also put their input into the conversation.

One person, who is always vocal, has remained rather silent thus far and it makes me rather concerned. Where has Morsul been all Day? He has not posted once which is rather odd.

Izzy makes me rather nervous as well. I have already explained two of my reasons in my previous post. But another reason has come to my attention...yes she has posted rather little, but all of her posts so far have been small posts with really nothing of substance. Sure you can all say that I haven't had many at this point either, but up until this point, I have only had two posts due to prior commitments and no computer opportunities. There is only one post of hers with any substance in it and that is the one where she makes the rather weak argument against those of us who could not be here to participate in discussions. She is one I will most definitely be keeping an eye on.

Rikae has been a rather active participant in the discussions (thank the lord!) raised about our Pen-Pals and has raised some interesting points of her own. I'm inclined to believe she is innocent at this point, and no it's not just because she said she would rather not vote for me...although that is an added plus!

Shasta has been rather quiet as well and seems to have been slipping under everyone's radar. He's had one post and it was to say that we have already been through Day 1....Did we not agree to completely erase the fact that we did that and NOT take that into consideration? I was under the impression we had. Although, he does bring up a rather good point that Wilwa has been the most vocal out of the group toDay. And then he drops us something....

[QUOTE=Shasta]
I may just have to pull out my Magic 8... uh.... I mean, my crystal ball. Yeah, that's it.[QUOTE}

A cryptic clue?? Or a furry tactic to make us think he's innocent? And I would not put it past him of the latter.

Which leaves Zil....I can't seem to get a read on him at this point.....I would like to hear a little more from him before I vote.

So my suspect thus far is Morsul, Izzy and Shasta. But I will wait a little while longer before I cast my vote.

Oh, and X'ed times 2 with Lottie

[alonariel]

Eek! Just got home from work - both glad and sad at the lack of posts.

Revealing the PM-pals: I somewhat agree with Wilwa, it could cause a lot of confusion. However, if an ordo is paired with a wolf in this game (I was last game - Nog, dear, the vote hurts but I'll forgive you!) and has a suspicion about their PM pal, it might give their suspicions more credibility if we get it all out on Day 1 who is paired with who.

Or it could just cause massive confusion. I don't know. At the moment, I won't reveal unless it's alright with my partner - though he hasn't been on a lot today, either, much like me I'm afraid.

I don't have any solid suspicions at this point, but we'll see. ToDay is extended by two more hours because Gwath has commitments, so maybe something will come out of the woodworks by then?

[Inziladun]

Morsul's absence is a bit disconcerting, but I don't see him as voteworthy just yet.
At the moment, I think I'm leaning toward Lottie. No one else really stands out as much at the moment, and her vote for me wasn't very well reasoned, even if it is me saying so. I never said I was for or against the PM-Pal outing, yet she claims I flip-flopped.
There's also the way she seems to be misrepresenting Wilwa's words, as Rikae notes. I'd like to hear from some others though before I decide.

x/d with Glirdan

[Isabellkya]

Glirdan what is your opinion on Wilwa's vote?

[Glirdan]

Originally Posted by Izzy

Glirdan what is your opinion on Wilwa's vote?

My answer is in an earlier post of mine actually.

Originally Posted by Me

Both are rather safe votes seeing as neither Sally nor Alona have been able to get on to defend themselves, let alone post. However...I do believe that this is mainly due to the time zone differences and thus I am inclined to believe at this point that neither of these to voter's are Wolves. At least not at this time.

That is my opinion on both Wilwa and Nog. However, seeing as their votes are rather too early to tell anything, there is always the possibility that one of them is a Wolf and I would not put it past either of them for two reasons: 1) Both of their votes are safe. 2) They both voted early, thus eliminating the "They joined the bandwagon" situation.

[Glirdan]

Oh, and just to keep the voting updated:

1. Nogrod -------> Alona
2. Wilwa -------> Sally
3. Lottie -------> Zil
4. Rikae -------> Glirdan
5. Zil -------> Lottie



Hmmmm....I just noticed something rather interesting....Lottie and Zil both voted for each other....both have come up with their own reasonings, true.....But could this be a Wolf on Wolf vote to lure us away from believing so?

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

Hmmmm....I just noticed something rather interesting....Lottie and Zil both voted for each other....both have come up with their own reasonings, true.....But could this be a Wolf on Wolf vote to lure us away from believing so?

This caught me as odd... However as I came into something very confusing I thought DL was when a few other people said so those two together made a kind of... ok this is a crappy vote but it's all I got kind of thing...

And if I recall Gwath said no vote retractions.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

Hmmmm....I just noticed something rather interesting....Lottie and Zil both voted for each other....both have come up with their own reasonings, true.....But could this be a Wolf on Wolf vote to lure us away from believing so?

If it is, I wasn't informed.

I'm on, in case you hadn't noticed by the fact that I posted.

[Isabellkya]

Plgh. I keep thinking that deadline is at nine, not in less than ten minutes.

Ahh, okay. I must've missed that. I suppose I should clarify. What is your opinion on her vote reasoning. As she essentially voted for one whom came online, noticed lack of posts, then didn't contribute to the post count number. Which you are condemning me for mentioning. xD

I've got to vote now.
++Shasta

Somewhat random. I know he can contribute more, Mister!


X'd with Glirdan and mistyped Shasta's name.

[Lariren Shadow]

Ah! Deadline?!

++Shasta

Really, just pulling a name out here.

[Isabellkya]

yes Morsul; we started over. The admin thread has more and full details.


X'd with Lariren

[Morsul the Dark]

++Glirdan in a deadlock of votes it looks like he's trying to toss some suspicion...

[alonariel]

DL toDay isn't until 10PM PST, guys. Gwath posted on the admin thread.

[Morsul the Dark]

Sorry had work then RCIA classes(where's Formy when you need him?)

If my fiance doesn't take the computer to work Friday I'll be on quite a bit as I'm off from work.

[Morsul the Dark]

Tie is never mentioned in the thread. however Tradition states in the case of ties the person who First got the votes gets lynched,,, and even if for some unknown reason Both people are lynched I'm still gone... Thirdly... well there is no third.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Tie is never mentioned in the thread. however Tradition states in the case of ties the person who First got the votes gets lynched,,, and even if for some unknown reason Both people are lynched I'm still gone... Thirdly... well there is no third.

Well some mods do a coin toss, and others (who are weird ) like to do the last person to receive vote count as the lynchee. Each mod is different.


Erm, I feel squicked by this now. I'm going to think for a couple minutes.

[Morsul the Dark]

I'll take down my Grimoire post... but I'm copying it ready to paste it

[satansaloser2005]

I face a dilemma.

I'm a bit of a meta-brain by nature and I won't lie about it. I keep meta-stuff out as much as possible, but I can't get rid of it now. Anyway, the point is that I'm trying to decide whether or not to seal Morsul's fate. Here's some questions.

Should we keep him around? If so, why? Why not?
How does the hunter in this game even work? (Obviously a question for Gwath.) Does he take down anyone, or just a wolf?
If he's really the hunter why hasn't he told us his target?
Why did he not speak up sooner? (And did he really have the chance? And should he even?)
Is it completely wrong to lynch him now?
Am I insane? (Please leave this one blank.)

ETA: x'd with Morsul. Am I being a complete cow or is this bothering anyone else? I'm so bloody confused lol.

[satansaloser2005]

It'll drive me bonkers otherwise.

Morsul, tell us who your pick is at least. If I don't hear a worthwhile case for why I should save you in the next five minutes or so you're dying.

[Morsul the Dark]

I would not reveal my target because if I did and it were an innocent of course the wolves would kill me anyway.. otherwise they would leave me alone and I know... or think I know a probable wolf. being a revealed huner just might add to your annoyance and most importantly I got three votes within a half hour there was no time to defend myself really...


That answer your questions?