WWLXX: At the Prison of Ice

[Nogrod]

Oops...

(That goes both to the result of yesterDay and the events leading up to it + the sacrifice rule)


Shasta: even if I tend to agree with you that there is most likely at least one wolf in the three other Lottie-voters, I must say you are not making that case easier with that security of yours.

And even if I do apologise for leading you astray yesterDay, even if unknowingly, - and I do think at least one wolf picking that lead to hide behind it - I still think it was both a reasonable suspicion (the Birthday dreamer role was like I said earlier) and it cleared the last Days from the enigma whether to believe in Lottie's description of her role or not. We afforded even that wrong decision yesterDay... we probably wouldn't have afforded it toDay as well.

And btw. if you insist in your righteousness on Lottie, then how did you know it? For all I know only wolves knew she was an innocent yesterDay.

EDIT: X'd with the last Shasta

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Shasta: even if I tend to agree with you that there is most likely at least one wolf in the three other Lottie-voters, I must say you are not making that case easier with that security of yours.

I disagree, based on how it was thoroughly discussed yesterday there is more reason to think the wolves would want to keep Lottie around, because she was going to be a question mark for the rest of the game, or they could have just ignored it.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

(the Birthday dreamer role was like I said earlier)

Clearly not, as Lottie dreamt of Pitchwolf and died innocent.

Edit: X'ed with Boro.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Let me explain my picks of Boro and Bes in more detail (I'm not gone when I thought I would be).

Firstly, of the four, Lommy had to save her own skin. I don't fault her for voting Lottie to save herself - in normal circumstances I'd probably have done the same thing.

Secondly, Nog was the originator of the theory that Lottie was evil. And while erroneous, I can maybe see an innocent Nog believing it. I find all three of Boro, Nog, and Bes suspicious, but the bottom line is that I find Boro's 180-jump on Nog's case more suspicious that Nog bringing it up in the first place.

As for Bes, that's the second time he's dived in out of nowhere and voted. A newbie wolf trying not to get caught? I'd like to get rid of Boro and Nog today, but that's probably not going to happen. Boro and Bes is more likely.

Edit: X'ed with Nog.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Clearly not, as Lottie dreamt of Pitchwolf and died innocent.

But an innocent knew that only atfter the DL yesterDay...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But an innocent knew that only atfter the DL yesterDay...

Not the point. You said that the role was like you said it was (the birthday dreamer taking the role of the person he/she dreamt) and it wasn't.

Edit: X'ed with Bes. The main thing is that her lynch was pushed through after she'd said she'd be gone for the day. Also, I considered her to be the closest thing we had to a cleared innocent, so yes, I'm a little irked that she was lynched.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Not the point. You said that the role was like you said it was (the birthday dreamer taking the role of the person he/she dreamt) and it wasn't.

Not the point...

I said it was a reasonable suspicion yesterDay as the role had been of that kind earlier (and btw. again, only the wolves knew yesterDay that was not the case this time around).

Heh, I think I see what you mean though; I seem to be missing quotation marks or a comma from there, or missing a word from there...

Originally Posted by me

(the Birthday dreamer role was like I said earlier)

Of course I mean that the role was earlier what I said it was - and we couldn't have known it was different now.

I wonder why you think it important enough to comment on? Why would I make such an obviously false statement like that?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I wonder why you think it important enough to comment on? Why would I make such an obviously false statement like that?

I thought it might be the language barrier. Okay. Sorry, Nog.

Edit: X'ed with Boro.

[Nogrod]

The problem I have now is the Night-kills... the last one especially makes me uneasy with just concentrating solely on Lottie-voters.

Does someone recall Nerwen being suspected in any serious fashion? Yet she's still alive instead of Brinn who was actually suspected.

Or is this just the thing the wolves wish someone of us to voice out without dirtying their claws with the issue?

Anyway, it would be hard for anyone to lynch Nerwen so why keep her around when Brinn would have been a lot more lyncheble? The numbers are quickly coming down and the probability of even a blind vote catching a wolf grows with every lynch so why leave "clean-looking" people around instead of lynchables?

And here I need to disagree with you Boro - at least for the time being (=have to think it over once again, but my guts say otherwise than you say). It might be a good idea to both sacrifice and lynch.

The old story: killing by voting together is the only weapon we have (now wolves have only 2 from 8 influence on that); letting the kill-decisions for Nights instead of Days we let the wolves to choose freely (unless the ranger saves it = 1/7 chance).

EDIT: X'd with a few Shastas and Boro