WWLXX: At the Prison of Ice - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Shastanis Althreduin · 12-10-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

Now, there's been new info about the secret-role today which has changed my mind.

WRONG. You can't declare Nogrod's theory concrete information and base decisions off it.

Edit: X'ed with Nogrod.

Nogrod · 12-10-2009, 02:51 PM

Sorry... I tried to "preview" to see whether there were new posts and hit the submit button...

Well I meant to do that anyway...

Bes · 12-10-2009, 02:58 PM

Good lord, so many words and meanings put into my mouth for me toDay. Anyway, not much time before the DL. Either Nog or Lottie is trouble, in my oppinion. Lottie is the one of the two that has evidence against her worth talking about from my point of view, since I've never had much more on Nog than a feeling of wrongness. So Lottie it is.

++Lottie.

Edit: Probably crossed with a few.

Shastanis Althreduin · 12-10-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bes

Good lord, so many words and meanings put into my mouth for me toDay. Anyway, not much time before the DL. Either Nog or Lottie is trouble, in my oppinion. Lottie is the one of the two that has evidence against her worth talking about from my point of view, since I've never had much more on Nog than a feeling of wrongness. So Lottie it is.

++Lottie.

Edit: Probably crossed with a few.

Aaaaand Bes with yet another out-of-the-blue vote...

Thinlómien · 12-10-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

WRONG. You can't declare Nogrod's theory concrete information and base decisions off it.

The theory is not, but the previous rules about the role sort of are...

Thinlómien · 12-10-2009, 02:53 PM

++Lottie

Shastanis Althreduin · 12-10-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

The theory is not, but the previous rules about the role sort of are...

So you can read Legate's mind, then?

Edit: X'ed with Lommy and Sally. Bes for me is a byproduct of all this Lottie suspicion, so...

satansaloser2005 · 12-10-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

The theory is not, but the previous rules about the role sort of are...

Yes, but this isn't the same game.

I don't like it when people think they can read the mod's brain. Makes me think they know something they wouldn't if they were innocent.

Shastanis Althreduin · 12-10-2009, 02:56 PM

I can't in good conscience go along with this at the moment.

++Lommy

Edit: X'ed with Nogrod.

Thinlómien · 12-10-2009, 02:58 PM

Oh drat idiot Shasta... Sally please. Use your brain.

Nogrod · 12-10-2009, 02:59 PM

Lynch Shasta and Sally toMorrow people - anyone alive toMorrow... if Lommy is innocent and they just derailed the whole thing...

Thinlómien · 12-10-2009, 02:57 PM

Sally and Shasta if you lynch me and Lottie wolf and her pack kill you I will say you deserved it...

I don't claim I can read the mod's mind. I'm just thinking of stuff that would make sense (which is not making a totally new random role we can't get any information on from anywhere).

satansaloser2005 · 12-10-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Sally and Shasta if you lynch me and Lottie wolf and her pack kill you I will say you deserved it...

I don't claim I can read the mod's mind. I'm just thinking of stuff that would make sense (which is not making a totally new random role we can't get any information on from anywhere).

Not just you, dear, those two troublemakers Boro and Nog as well.

Gah. Lottie or Lommie, Lottie or Lommie? Vote count anyone?

Shastanis Althreduin · 12-10-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Sally and Shasta if you lynch me and Lottie wolf and her pack kill you I will say you deserved it...

I don't claim I can read the mod's mind. I'm just thinking of stuff that would make sense (which is not making a totally new random role we can't get any information on from anywhere).

I've done it.

satansaloser2005 · 12-10-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Alright, this last-half-hour bandwagon swing towards Lottie stinks of something.

Edit: X'ed with Sally.

Seconded. If she's a wolf, great, but if not I'll be really REALLY unhappy.

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Haha, I was just thinking "if we lynch Lottie and she's innocent, we had better do something about Nog and Boro the Day after!" So, great minds think alike?

Although it's really always a bit questionable to draw very straightforward conclusions like that...

edit: xed with all

Something like that. I'll still be after you though, precious.

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

WRONG. You can't declare Nogrod's theory concrete information and base decisions off it.

Edit: X'ed with Nogrod.

Seconded again.

Shastanis Althreduin · 12-10-2009, 02:53 PM

In fact I think that's what bothers me the most about this bandwagon - has anyone considered the opposite side of this coin? Like, for instance, we lose a Gifted (because that's what Lottie is, no matter if she's used her gift up or not), and the wolves succeed in making us waste a lynch on her. Haven't we been discussing that the wolves don't dare kill Lottie? If Nog is wrong about Lottie, this whole manuever fits right into their plans.

Edit: X'ed with Lommy, Nog, Boro, Sally, Nog.

satansaloser2005 · 12-10-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

In fact I think that's what bothers me the most about this bandwagon - has anyone considered the opposite side of this coin? Like, for instance, we lose a Gifted (because that's what Lottie is, no matter if she's used her gift up or not), and the wolves succeed in making us waste a lynch on her. Haven't we been discussing that the wolves don't dare kill Lottie? If Nog is wrong about Lottie, this whole manuever fits right into their plans.

Shasta, what do you think about trying for Bes? Or Lommie?

Boromir88 · 12-10-2009, 02:58 PM

Shasta why switch on someone (talking about Lottie with regards to me) who's defended me as innocent since her reveal or I could just kill her, when I could have just joined in on Lommy and Nog fight today or gone for someone like sally or an easier target?

Consider that before your decision about me. You say this Lottie-thing stinks of wolvery, because I've switched and Nog's assuming she's guilty. But you're assuming she's innocent.

Shastanis Althreduin · 12-10-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

Shasta why switch on someone (talking about Lottie with regards to me) who's defended me as innocent since her reveal or I could just kill her, when I could have just joined in on Lommy and Nog fight today or gone for someone like sally or an easier target?

Consider that before your decision about me. You say this Lottie-thing stinks of wolvery, because I've switched and Nog's assuming she's guilty. But you're assuming she's innocent.

No one else seems to be!

satansaloser2005 · 12-10-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

Shasta why switch on someone (talking about Lottie with regards to me) who's defended me as innocent since her reveal or I could just kill her, when I could have just joined in on Lommy and Nog fight today or gone for someone like sally or an easier target?

Consider that before your decision about me. You say this Lottie-thing stinks of wolvery, because I've switched and Nog's assuming she's guilty. But you're assuming she's innocent.

I, on the other hand, am assuming nothing. And thus....

++Abstain (official or not)

I hate myself. *waits*

satansaloser2005 · 12-10-2009, 02:59 PM

++Lommie

Fish fish fish fishy!!!!!

Shastanis Althreduin · 12-10-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

++Lommie

Fish fish fish fishy!!!!!

OH MY LORD WHAT.

satansaloser2005 · 12-10-2009, 03:01 PM

And of course it doesn't matter. Rubbish. I really really don't like this Lottie wagon, because somewhere there's so much evil in it.

Shasta, why couldn't we have tried Bes? Why?!

EDIT: x'd since my last

Shastanis Althreduin · 12-10-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I, on the other hand, am assuming nothing. And thus....

++Abstain (official or not)

I hate myself. *waits*

...Lynch Sally tomorrow. What the crap.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-10-2009, 03:01 PM

Deadline

Thinlómien · 12-10-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

In fact I think that's what bothers me the most about this bandwagon - has anyone considered the opposite side of this coin? Like, for instance, we lose a Gifted (because that's what Lottie is, no matter if she's used her gift up or not), and the wolves succeed in making us waste a lynch on her. Haven't we been discussing that the wolves don't dare kill Lottie? If Nog is wrong about Lottie, this whole manuever fits right into their plans.

Yes but at least we don't lose a working gifted or (sorry to say) an innocent who contributes a lot (for the past few Days, Lottie hasn't made any real points, just said I'm suspicious and vote me. We can afford to lose an innocent who is not putting her time to think about different options.)

Nogrod · 12-10-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

WRONG. You can't declare Nogrod's theory concrete information and base decisions off it.

Cool down Shasta... I hope it's not semantics again... I don't think Boro said it was "concrete information". To me at least it is a perfectly believable hypothesis that should be checked. If we had three wolves we really should get rid of one toDay - and we're wrong, as Boro said, we can afford to lose an inncent just to be sure. And what would be the gains if we got it right?

satansaloser2005 · 12-10-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Cool down Shasta... I hope it's not semantics again... I don't think Boro said it was "concrete information". To me at least it is a perfectly believable hypothesis that should be checked. If we had three wolves we really should get rid of one toDay - and we're wrong, as Boro said, we can afford to lose an inncent just to be sure. And what would be the gains if we got it right?

Yes, but what if she was lying about getting only one dream? I don't think it's the case, but I'm just sayin'.

Shastanis Althreduin · 12-10-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Cool down Shasta... I hope it's not semantics again... I don't think Boro said it was "concrete information". To me at least it is a perfectly believable hypothesis that should be checked. If we had three wolves we really should get rid of one toDay - and we're wrong, as Boro said, we can afford to lose an inncent just to be sure. And what would be the gains if we got it right?

Noted, but has Lottie even been around to defend herself? This feels like a Lottie lynch is being rushed through for that reason.

Thinlómien · 12-10-2009, 02:58 PM

It's even, Sally.

Thinlómien · 12-10-2009, 03:00 PM

Bes!!! What's this???

12-10-2009, 02:51 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Sorry... I tried to "preview" to see whether there were new posts and hit the submit button... Well I meant to do that anyway... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

12-10-2009, 02:53 PM	#6
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	++Lottie __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

12-10-2009, 02:56 PM	#9
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	I can't in good conscience go along with this at the moment. ++Lommy Edit: X'ed with Nogrod. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

12-10-2009, 02:58 PM	#10
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Oh drat idiot Shasta... Sally please. Use your brain. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

12-10-2009, 02:59 PM	#11
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Lynch Shasta and Sally toMorrow people - anyone alive toMorrow... if Lommy is innocent and they just derailed the whole thing... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

12-10-2009, 02:58 PM	#3
Bes Animated Skeleton Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 42	Good lord, so many words and meanings put into my mouth for me toDay. Anyway, not much time before the DL. Either Nog or Lottie is trouble, in my oppinion. Lottie is the one of the two that has evidence against her worth talking about from my point of view, since I've never had much more on Nog than a feeling of wrongness. So Lottie it is. ++Lottie. Edit: Probably crossed with a few.

12-10-2009, 02:57 PM	#12
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Sally and Shasta if you lynch me and Lottie wolf and her pack kill you I will say you deserved it... I don't claim I can read the mod's mind. I'm just thinking of stuff that would make sense (which is not making a totally new random role we can't get any information on from anywhere). __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

12-10-2009, 02:58 PM	#18
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Shasta why switch on someone (talking about Lottie with regards to me) who's defended me as innocent since her reveal or I could just kill her, when I could have just joined in on Lommy and Nog fight today or gone for someone like sally or an easier target? Consider that before your decision about me. You say this Lottie-thing stinks of wolvery, because I've switched and Nog's assuming she's guilty. But you're assuming she's innocent. __________________ Fenris Penguin

12-10-2009, 02:59 PM	#21
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	++Lommie Fish fish fish fishy!!!!! __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

12-10-2009, 03:01 PM	#23
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	And of course it doesn't matter. Rubbish. I really really don't like this Lottie wagon, because somewhere there's so much evil in it. Shasta, why couldn't we have tried Bes? Why?! EDIT: x'd since my last __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

12-10-2009, 03:01 PM	#25
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Deadline __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-10-2009, 02:58 PM	#30
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	It's even, Sally. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

12-10-2009, 03:00 PM	#31
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Bes!!! What's this??? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris