Born of hope

[Mugwump]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

It actually works as soon as you do away with the typo... (bornofhopoe!!!)

Doh! of course! The correct link: http://www.bornofhope.com/
http://www.bornofhope.com/Watch.html

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Ignorance is bliss... No, ignorance is the worst enemy of bliss.

Ignorance of bliss is the worst!

Originally Posted by Erendis

events that were mentionned in the book are really accurately presented.

What book portrays those events? Do you mean the LOTR appendices? And what is that other language the humans are speaking? Elvish, I suppose? Which would mean they were all Dúnedain, I guess.

Very good film (I'm about halfway through it). But I didn't realize Arathorn was attracted to somewhat pudgy, mature women. I think that younger gal who was carrying a torch for Arathorn is much prettier.

But seriously, when I heard Arathorn say about Gilraen "she is not yet of age" I nearly snorted up my breakfast cereal. Did the Dúnedain consider "of age" to be 33, like the Hobbits? Looking on the Internet I see that the actress, Beth Aynsley, was born in 1981, which would make her 28. She looks at least 35. And being about 20 pounds heavier than I would expect for this role doesn't make her look any younger. But according to Appendix B of LOTR Gilraen was only about 22 when she married Arathorn. Unfortunate casting, IMO.

[Erendis]

First of all sorry about the spelling mistake,but our university's equipment is not of the best quality.Alas us greek students...Anyway,I 'll correct it right away!

Secondly,Mugwump,I am talking about the events mentionned int he books,not the fiction stuff.

Thirdly,my comments do not reffer to the production.I am pleased to see this little film done .I agree that ''Gilraen'' was not the best to be found,but think that for such a little budjet it could have been much worse-and said "WHAT" too when Arathorn mentionned her age.
And from what I remember,the Dunedains did spoke Elvish frequently,since they derive mostly from the people of Adunie-see Aldarion and Erendis.

[Bêthberry]

Very nicely done indeed! I particularly liked the cultural details, the way of building, of cooking, of celebrating, even the clothing. No complaints here on any grounds. Great work from amateurs.

[Mnemosyne]

Finally got to watch it. So incredibly amazing... actually better IMO than the Jackson films in some respects; certainly better than Hunt for Gollum which was a really disappointing rehash of Jackson.

Hope that these inspire more similar projects... I'm still entertaining hopes for a film of just the Scouring, done right...

[Mugwump]

Originally Posted by Erendis

Secondly,Mugwump,I am talking about the events mentionned int he books,not the fiction stuff.

I don't understand what you mean. Were there non-fictional events mentioned in the books?

I was asking whether these were events that happened or were mentioned in the main texts, or whether they were from appendices. And to answer my own question, I believe the events you were talking about (the death of Aragorn's father, etc.) occurred in one of the appendices of The Lord of the Rings.

[Erendis]

[QUOTE=Mugwump;619028]I don't understand what you mean. Were there non-fictional events mentioned in the books?

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Well,what can I say?Middle Earth has always been real to me
Yes ,I refer to the appendices.In fact,I cannot recall of something more specificate for Aragorn's childhood and ancestors,except the heirloom of Isildur,son of Arathorn,Elessar,growing up in Imladris etc.etc. ,in the main texts.

[Mugwump]

Originally Posted by Erendis

In fact,I cannot recall of something more specificate for Aragorn's childhood...

Well, there was that incident with the Elven milkmaid when he was a teenager... oh but wait, Tolkien never published that story.

[Erendis]

Originally Posted by Mugwump

Well, there was that incident with the Elven milkmaid when he was a teenager... oh but wait, Tolkien never published that story.

Yes,the Blue Book is a far more interesting perspective of the story...

[Thinlómien]

I'm impressed. That was not bad at all, by far better than the Hunt for Gollum. There's of course stuff to nit-pick on, but mostly it was really impressive. I was especially impressed with the acting: it was only a few moments when I was thinking "embarassing" or "fake" when looking at the movie, and I often think that once or twice during professional movies too. So huge kudos to the actors.

I was afraid the made-up characters would be silly, but no. I liked the character of Elgarain, she was really cool (and I seldom like female heroes in this kind of movies, so even more kudos to the team and the actress - who also directed and produced the stuff, it seems) and the others were good too (even the slightly slimy/aggressive guy who had a thing for her, he was funny ). I was also amused by teenage Halbarad and the slightly punk old Arador.

Anyway, as again with the Hunt for Gollum, I think the weakest point of the film was the plot. It sometimes felt there was no coherence or no story and some of the scenes and lines were plain silly or cheesy. Also, the narrator was unnecessary and her lines were just awful.

All in all, I liked the movie and I'd watch it again. I also recommend it to other 'downers.

ps.

Originally Posted by Mugwump

But seriously, when I heard Arathorn say about Gilraen "she is not yet of age" I nearly snorted up my breakfast cereal. Did the Dúnedain consider "of age" to be 33, like the Hobbits? Looking on the Internet I see that the actress, Beth Aynsley, was born in 1981, which would make her 28. She looks at least 35. And being about 20 pounds heavier than I would expect for this role doesn't make her look any younger. But according to Appendix B of LOTR Gilraen was only about 22 when she married Arathorn. Unfortunate casting, IMO.

I disagree. While I don't exactly imagine Gilraen to look the way the actress did (I imagine her as tall, dark and sort of bony), I have absolutely nothing against the actress in this movie. I think she looked her age and it was wonderful how they made her look younger in the beginning and older in the end. Also, I personally found the actress pretty and disagree with your implication of her being fat - I must say I definitely liked her far more than if she had been portrayed by some Hollywod-style model babe. (And as for the Dúnedain coming of age, I got the impression they were considered mature maybe around thirty, give or take a few years. That would make sense, given their long life span.)